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    What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:45 am

    In a wholly different discussion, a thought cropped up in my head.

    Another member, who due to the forum rules will remain anonymous, but is very welcome to share her interesting opinion with us, outlined that owning and playing any game, bar none, is a 'gamer'.

    This was a little interesting to me, I'd always thought the line was further away than this. I'd think "a 5 year old who gets given a DS and Nintendogs to play, to me is not a gamer", similarly to if a person who plays solitaire on their laptop cus they're bored are not, however to said other person, they are.

    I think personally the line should be further away, despite the fact gamer is a rather broad term, and to me is more of a social stereotype (in line with nerd, stoner, chav etc), than it is just a description of a single interest..

    To me, in the same way as the examples above, just watching the star wars films and enjoying them doesn't make you a nerd. Occasionally playing a bit of football in the park doesn't make you sporty. Owning a guitar doesn't make you musical. Hence, playing one game (or even a few), doesn't make you a 'gamer' as such, just that you dabble a bit.

    What are your opinions?


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by morte on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:05 am

    Well, I think that all people who play games on a reagular basis (a few hours a week) are "gamers," but there are different "levels" so to speak of gamers. For example, exclusively playing angry birds would make you a casual gamer at best. Still playing old NES games would make you a hardcore. Gamer types are as varible as people, I think.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by densetsushun on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:08 am

    Where's the difference between playing Angry Birds exclusively and playing NES games? What's the difference between playing CoD or Fifa and playing Dark Souls? I call shenanigans.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by morte on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:11 am

    densetsushun wrote:Where's the difference between playing Angry Birds exclusively and playing NES games? What's the difference between playing CoD or Fifa and playing Dark Souls? I call shenanigans.

    Nothing in the sense that they are all games, but they are of different genres of games. For example, angry birds tends to be a "gateway drug" of sorts into the gaming world, since it's cheap, fun and easy. A NES game is older, and tends to be much more difficult, probably not used by newcomers and is more common among older gamers who have been playing for a while. All are gamers, but some are just more involved than others in gaming.
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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Peaceful Wollyhop on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:22 am

    Well there's gamer to mean someone who plays games

    And there's gamer to mean someone who make a lifestyle,hobby,takes interest in playing games


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:23 am

    densetsushun wrote:Where's the difference between playing Angry Birds exclusively and playing NES games? What's the difference between playing CoD or Fifa and playing Dark Souls? I call shenanigans.

    The level of involvement and interest in gaming is the obvious difference here, my friend.

    If you play NES games compared to angry birds, the obvious implication is a higher level interest and enjoyment in video games. No average joe is gonna sit down and play NES games or Dark Souls, however you could see just as easily a random guy with little interest in games picking up the controller to play a bit of FIFA or angry birds.

    To me, whether someone is a gamer or not is defined by how deep their love of games is. Like I said, it's a defining stereotype in my eyes, rather than a listed interest. You can play only one or two games but not be a gamer, but you can't be a gamer and only play one or two games. There's just not that defining interest that gamers have.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:24 am

    Peaceful Wollyhop wrote:Well there's gamer to mean someone who plays games

    And there's gamer to mean someone who make a lifestyle,hobby,takes interest in playing games

    But which is truth? Which to you is what 'gamer' truly means.

    Obviously your point is pretty much the essence of the debate, but simply stating definitions without putting in your opinion isn't really what I'm going for with the thread silly


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Peaceful Wollyhop on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:38 am

    Well one's a by the book term that you would find in a dictionary and the others a social label. They are two separate things so you can be none, one or both.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by densetsushun on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:52 am

    Serious_Much wrote:To me, whether someone is a gamer or not is defined by how deep their love of games is.
    I agree with this point, it's about the love of games, but your other arguments are quite conflicting. Angry Birds or The Sims might not be as engaging or demanding as other games, but someone can certainly love playing them a whole damn lot.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Animaaal on Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:09 pm

    Under the category "hobbies" on the following documents...

    -resume'
    -dating profile
    -facebook/social media


    ...if you list gamer, then you probably are.

    Others:

    1) If you own 3 different consoles of any kind.

    2) If you avoid overtime, doctors visits, or other obligations to play.

    3) If you look at a chick on a blind date and thnk, "Is she really worth my Dark Souls time?"

    4) If you know more about video games than world news.

    5) If you log more hours playing than watching TV.

    6) If you're on the game show "The Price Is Right" and you win the grand prize only to be bummed out that there was no ps4, xbox720, or wiiU included in your prize worth a total of $40,000.


    If you can relate then you might be a redneck...I mean gamer.
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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:16 pm

    1st. angry birds is the devil!

    A gamer is someone passionate about games, games are more than just a way to kill time.
    Gamers will be happy to talk about games all night long, they even enjoy watching others play (but might complain if the mates hogging the control) those that are more casual in their game play are not so keen to talk games or watch others play.

    So yes someone who only plays angry birds could be classed as gamer, if they were passionate enough about it. (Of course if they tried talking to me about angry birds I would punch them in the nose)


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Acarnatia on Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:38 pm

    I agree with you on this, Serious. The term gamer, as it is mostly used in society, refers to a range of traits (a stereotype) that requires the person to be more hardcore and dedicated to video games than simply passing a few minutes on a Facebook game on his or her cell phone. The type of game isn't what defines it-it's the dedication to and certain character traits that go with it.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Mr. Tart on Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:34 pm

    To me a "Gamer" is someone who plays games frequently. You don't have to be good at it, but as long as you play games frequently and enjoy it, you're a "Gamer" in my eyes.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:51 pm

    I say if they regularly play games of any sort they're a gamer. If they played maybe once a month I don't think they'd qualify. At leas once a weak or every other weak, sure. What type of game is irrelevant as long as it is a game.

    If someone likes to get together with friends once a week and play football I'd call them a football player. Maybe not a professional one, but they're a football player in my book.
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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Dubscythe on Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:35 pm

    I always thought that gamer was kind of a silly term. It's completely subjective and people like to use it as some sort of badge of honor. I don't really refer to myself or anyone else I know who plays video games often as a gamer.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Animaaal on Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:59 pm

    Hmm, what Tolvo said makes me wonder. What if you take a break, for maybe a year even, but have the desire to come back one day.

    What if you logged in 600 hours in Mass Effect, but havent played for 2 years because of a newborn, but are saving for another console? :suspect:

    I thought it was all so simple until I thought about it.
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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:01 pm

    Then you used to be a gamer until you had other responsibilities. If you are getting back into gaming, then you're becoming a gamer again.
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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by densetsushun on Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:02 pm

    I think it's the spirit that counts. Frankly, if being called a gamer means I have to shirk my responsibilities then I for one refuse the label. There are things in life that take precedence over my will to play any videogame.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Hue on Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:17 pm

    I never use that term, because it is way too vague
    What differentiates someone who plays CoD and BF3 multiplayer on his Xbox all day long from someone who plays Nintendo games, or someone who plays minecraft, or someone who plays City Ville, or someone who plays FIFA? They are all playing a game, yet some of them are called gamers, virgins, no-lifes, nerds, and some aren't.


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by morte on Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:14 pm

    Guys, I've figured out what a "gamer" is. It's people like us! People who spend all day arguing over the exact definition of a "gamer."


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:17 pm

    morte wrote:Guys, I've figured out what a "gamer" is. It's people like us! People who spend all day arguing over the exact definition of a "gamer."

    This isn't an argument, it's an intellectual and philosophical discussion winking


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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by morte on Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:26 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:
    morte wrote:Guys, I've figured out what a "gamer" is. It's people like us! People who spend all day arguing over the exact definition of a "gamer."

    This isn't an argument, it's an intellectual and philosophical discussion winking

    Well, argument is just a term that means discussion between people of different views. You may be mixing it up with fight.


    So let me ask: do you think casuals, e.g. people who only do things like angrybirds and avoids all other games, should be included in the gamer category?
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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:32 pm

    Yes I consider them to be. Video games are video games. I don't know if I would call them dedicated if they don't have an actual console for gaming alone. However, not being dedicated isn't a bad thing. It's just a differentiation between the level to which someone plays.

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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by User1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:50 pm

    My definition of a gamer is someone who is into games, no matter the type of game. More 'hardcore' gamers may have been gaming for years, or still play on old consoles, or older games, but they are still gamers.

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    Re: What is a 'Gamer'?

    Post by Animaaal on Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:02 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:...This isn't an argument, it's an intellectual and philosophical discussion winking...

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