Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

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    Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Tchuwib on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:33 pm

    I'm working on a Lv120 build for an Artorias round up build. I'm not looking to make the perfect PvP or PvE set up, but mostly try to stay focus on what the build gonna be about. So what I got so far is this


    Abyss Artorias

    The main thing I want to focus on is having him in fast roll when 1H is DLC sword so that way he's a fast swinger. The spell are just there for idea, like power within when he power up and karmic justice for optional protection. But how I see it, I can place the normal sheild and sword with this build and being in a mid roll, more like when he wasn't curse. So I can play two style of Artorias.

    Any idea on improvement, twinging or rounding up would be welcome. The main reason is to stay as close as Astorias. The spell are just optional since I won't use them probably in a competition I'm gonna try him in.

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    Forgot to mention that I know some of the stat are weird, but I wanted to keep a 36st and 20dx so I could make different build other then just artorias with those stat. So I'm leaving room to be able to weild different weapon and sheild.

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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Tchuwib on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:56 pm

    Dibsville wrote:http://mmdks.com/1lb9

    Yeah, I saw that build you made. Did a search in the forum before finalizing mine. But it not really what's I'm going for. Sure it's a focus only on Artorias, but I won't be able to make different build with it after. For exemple, when I'm gonna switch with The original Greatsword of Artorias or make a different cosplay (ex: Iron Golem, Giant soldier, Black knight).

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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by LunarFog on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:44 pm

    I've been cosplaying as Artorias for a while, and I just have to face it: his armor sucks. Light roll is the only thing going for him. Low defense. Low poise. No shield. It'll be hard to win any fights with him.

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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Tchuwib on Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:52 am

    I don't care much for winning, that build mostly for personnel fun by cosplaying.

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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Automancer on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:25 am

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=358113840658780236

    I fixed your build. Increased SL to 125. More damage output for the Abyss gs, removed Iron flesh because Artorias is always mobile and he's not a tank. Lowered your Vit because 1590 is more than enough with that overall defense. Poise isn't that bad, 37 poise can resist a 1h greatsword. It's not as bad as people think. Switched talisman to Thorolund because mag adj is higher.

    Question though, why did your build have 12 resistance? Bandit only has 11 resist so don't increase that.


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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Automancer on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:27 am

    LunarFog wrote:I've been cosplaying as Artorias for a while, and I just have to face it: his armor sucks. Light roll is the only thing going for him. Low defense. Low poise. No shield. It'll be hard to win any fights with him.

    Well, learn to fight without a shield then. You'll have more fun than relying on something too much.


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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:26 am

    the artorias build i use is destined for a higher soul level (around 150-200) as a forest hunter but this is what it it looks like at 120 … http://mmdks.com/1lig

    and by 150 … http://mmdks.com/1lih

    and by 200 … http://mmdks.com/1lii
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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Tchuwib on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:53 pm

    Those are pretty good build, but still, I need to keep my formula where in those build I can't wield the other Astorias equipement set (Astorias Greatsword and cursed). But thank for pointing out that one resist I misplaced. I'm gonna round Vit to 45 instead. And the talisman was just to test weight to make sure I could still fast roll.

    I love how you get a lot of dmg increase on the broken Artorias sword tho Automancer. I could really go for that one if I didn't try to spread the stat so much XD.

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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Djem on Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:19 pm

    Automancer wrote:http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=358113840658780236

    I fixed your build. Increased SL to 125. More damage output for the Abyss gs, removed Iron flesh because Artorias is always mobile and he's not a tank. Lowered your Vit because 1590 is more than enough with that overall defense. Poise isn't that bad, 37 poise can resist a 1h greatsword. It's not as bad as people think. Switched talisman to Thorolund because mag adj is higher.

    Question though, why did your build have 12 resistance? Bandit only has 11 resist so don't increase that.

    I always got the impression that Artorias was the tank of the four knights of Gwyn. He has a ring that gives poise, he has a huge *** shield, a huge greatsword... But at the boss fight we see that he's very fast, and his armor isn't really heavy. So you may be right.

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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Nybbles on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:01 am

    Artorias of the Abyss … http://mmdks.com/1m0i

    Artorias the Tank … http://mmdks.com/1m0j

    both are the same build with slight adjustments to the load-out. i would have liked both versions to use the wolf ring, but i wasn't able to at 125. if we went to 157, endurance can be raised to 79 so that Artorias of the Abyss would be able to fast roll with the ring of favor and the wolf ring instead of havel's. which is probably over leveled for PVP (unless Forest Hunting i suppose).
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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Tchuwib on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:43 am

    ^^^^^ I would greatly consider those two build if I wasn't such a mule about keeping at least a36 stg for the multiple build, not really that much faith since I don't care to use WoG and I usually hate to spend so much on endurance. Also I'm keeping my SL at 120 to be legit. But thank alot of those subjection, it really made me consider the possibility. I'm almost done with the first playthrew, the only thing I'm missing is one soul of Sif since I'm gonna stay at NG+. If someone got one to share I'm about lv70 right now. No rush, I can even wait at lv120 in worst case.

    Oh, also might need help cutting Kalameeth tail if anybody interested. I hate doing it alone. Already cursed my share enough doing the one of Sanctuary guardian.


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    Re: Opinion and sujection on an Artorias Build

    Post by Nybbles on Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:14 pm

    the highest you should go is 34 strength, it's enough for the artorias greatshield and equates to having 50 strength when two-handing a weapon which is where the scaling pretty much comes to a complete halt (falls of a cliff at 40 and splats at 50).

    you could go with more intelligence instead of faith but you need allot more points in int than in faith for it to be truly useful (32-44 instead of 28), plus you would lose out on faiths magic defense bonus.

    if you don't want to use either spells or miracles, then i suggest sticking with the abyss sword as you won't waste so many points in stats that you will never actually see any gains from. in which case pryomancy would offer more than either spells or miracles with only 18 (or even 20) int and faith.

    endurance is very important for any artorias build. you should have enough endurance to fast roll if you want to cos-play artorias of the abyss, poise is also important when not using a shield, a min of 77 for an artorias build which means wearing the wolf ring. it suits his character and you will need the extra defense and mobility.

    fast rolling isn't important when using the greatshield but it weighs allot and you don't want to end up fat rolling so you still need a pretty big lump of endurance here as well. you can forgo the wolf ring in favor of havel's ring on this version of artorias, but you give up some of its tankyness and you will have a hard time trading blows with only 37 poise and you won't be able to stick and move as well while mid-rolling either.

    might i also suggest two different characters instead of trying to fit both play styles into one build? either version of artorias is a tough build at 120 as is.

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