50 END or 45 DEX. I'm not casting anything, so I'm thinking about going with END for more equip options. DEX only adds 2 damage.
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50 END or 45 DEX. I'm not casting anything, so I'm thinking about going with END for more equip options. DEX only adds 2 damage.
50 END or 45 DEX. I'm not casting anything, so I'm thinking about going with END for more equip options. DEX only adds 2 damage.
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Well, since you aren't gonna be casting anything, I'de imagine 45 dex would be rather pointless. I pick up'ing End to 50 o/.
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That's what I was thinking, but 45 DEX just seems well rounded. I'm trying to remember if there's anything else that requires DEX other than casting speed.XachAttack wrote:Well, since you aren't gonna be casting anything, I'de imagine 45 dex would be rather pointless. I pick up'ing End to 50 o/.
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50 End. Stay at 40Dex if you're not casting.
You would really be better off with an Estoc or some other weapon that moves faster than the BSS. Having the BSS offhand is almost pointless since its specialty is in its R2.
You would really be better off with an Estoc or some other weapon that moves faster than the BSS. Having the BSS offhand is almost pointless since its specialty is in its R2.
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BSS is one of the fastest Straight Swords... if you've played Demon's Souls and used duel Katanas, and you swapped between L1 and R1 for almost double the attack speed... well in Dark Souls, to do that you use a straight sword in your left hand. The L2 can IMMEDIATELY combo into an R1, thus, a faster straight sword is the better choice. Obviously, BSS is the best DEX straight sword, so I went with that. I could have gone with the Barbed Straight Sword for the extra bleed, but BSS looks better and it's faster.Automancer wrote:50 End. Stay at 40Dex if you're not casting.
You would really be better off with an Estoc or some other weapon that moves faster than the BSS. Having the BSS offhand is almost pointless since its specialty is in its R2.
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Dibsville wrote:BSS is one of the fastest Straight Swords... if you've played Demon's Souls and used duel Katanas, and you swapped between L1 and R1 for almost double the attack speed... well in Dark Souls, to do that you use a straight sword in your left hand. The L2 can IMMEDIATELY combo into an R1, thus, a faster straight sword is the better choice. Obviously, BSS is the best DEX straight sword, so I went with that. I could have gone with the Barbed Straight Sword for the extra bleed, but BSS looks better and it's faster.Automancer wrote:50 End. Stay at 40Dex if you're not casting.
You would really be better off with an Estoc or some other weapon that moves faster than the BSS. Having the BSS offhand is almost pointless since its specialty is in its R2.
Any fast swinging weapon can combo L1>R1 so that's pointless.
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It's different with Straight Swords...Automancer wrote:Dibsville wrote:BSS is one of the fastest Straight Swords... if you've played Demon's Souls and used duel Katanas, and you swapped between L1 and R1 for almost double the attack speed... well in Dark Souls, to do that you use a straight sword in your left hand. The L2 can IMMEDIATELY combo into an R1, thus, a faster straight sword is the better choice. Obviously, BSS is the best DEX straight sword, so I went with that. I could have gone with the Barbed Straight Sword for the extra bleed, but BSS looks better and it's faster.Automancer wrote:50 End. Stay at 40Dex if you're not casting.
You would really be better off with an Estoc or some other weapon that moves faster than the BSS. Having the BSS offhand is almost pointless since its specialty is in its R2.
Any fast swinging weapon can combo L1>R1 so that's pointless.
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It's the same. If you're just looking for combos, there are better weapon choices for that. The reason why i say it's pointless for the BSS to be in the offhand is because the true perks of that weapon is when wielding it in the mainhand.
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Look at every other straight sword and tell me BSS doesn't have the highest AR.Automancer wrote:It's the same. If you're just looking for combos, there are better weapon choices for that. The reason why i say it's pointless for the BSS to be in the offhand is because the true perks of that weapon is when wielding it in the mainhand.
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I was never talking about AR. If you're dual-wielding, you're looking to chain combos, damage isn't top priority. Take that video for example, the guy uses the Barbed SS because he's trying to catch unexpected combos while still building up bleed. Most offhand weapons have similar moveset/combos because weren't meant to be used in the offhand unlike specialized offhand ones like the Gold Tracer.
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I know, I use the BaSS in my build too, and I also use a BSS over my Chaos Blade so I'm duel wielding BSS'. I know AR doesn't matter in chains like that, but bleed out at SL 120 isn't as common as you'd think, even with BaSS. I only use BSS over BaSS because of its longer reach, its faster speed, and it looks better in general. I don't care for bleed damage, I wouldn't even be using a Chaos Blade if it wasn't for the fact that the chains work best with Katanas and Straight Swords, and the CB has is the better choice because of its superior damage.Automancer wrote:I was never talking about AR. If you're dual-wielding, you're looking to chain combos, damage isn't top priority. Take that video for example, the guy uses the Barbed SS because he's trying to catch unexpected combos while still building up bleed. Most offhand weapons have similar moveset/combos because weren't meant to be used in the offhand unlike specialized offhand ones like the Gold Tracer.
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No you don't. You're missing the point. I was simply referencing the usage of the Barbed SS with combos, i wasn't talking about you using bleed, AR or looks. All this while i'm just asking you to try other Dex weapons over the BSS because there are better and faster weapon variations that you can play with. BSS>Katana isn't the fastest dual wield combo out there.
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If you can name one that's faster, I'll gladly use it.Automancer wrote:No you don't. You're missing the point. I was simply referencing the usage of the Barbed SS with combos, i wasn't talking about you using bleed, AR or looks. All this while i'm just asking you to try other Dex weapons over the BSS because there are better and faster weapon variations that you can play with. BSS>Katana isn't the fastest dual wield combo out there.
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45 dexterity is not what people think.
-Your pyros begin to cast faster at 35, 45 is the cut off.
-Most, not all, but most good sorceries don't recieve any bonus at all untill 45 dex. SO in some cases its 45 or nothing.
-Certain miracles (spears) recieve bonuses up to 45 dex as well.
Just random facts most people dont know. 45 dex is not the be all end all of castings like people think, especially when considering pyros as a stand alone.
-Your pyros begin to cast faster at 35, 45 is the cut off.
-Most, not all, but most good sorceries don't recieve any bonus at all untill 45 dex. SO in some cases its 45 or nothing.
-Certain miracles (spears) recieve bonuses up to 45 dex as well.
Just random facts most people dont know. 45 dex is not the be all end all of castings like people think, especially when considering pyros as a stand alone.
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Thanks, I'll definitely remember these facts next time I make any sort of magic build.Animaaal wrote:45 dexterity is not what people think.
-Your pyros begin to cast faster at 35, 45 is the cut off.
-Most, not all, but most good sorceries don't recieve any bonus at all untill 45 dex. SO in some cases its 45 or nothing.
-Certain miracles (spears) recieve bonuses up to 45 dex as well.
Just random facts most people dont know. 45 dex is not the be all end all of castings like people think.
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Daggers, all rapiers, all curved swords, spears.
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A combination? I tried all those, you have to wait for the end of the animation from the L2 in order to R1, with Straight Swords and Katanas, you can R1 in the middle of the L2.Automancer wrote:Daggers, all rapiers, all curved swords, spears.
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Dibsville wrote:A combination? I tried all those, you have to wait for the end of the animation from the L2 in order to R1, with Straight Swords and Katanas, you can R1 in the middle of the L2.Automancer wrote:Daggers, all rapiers, all curved swords, spears.
The weapon classes i listed can attack with the L1 and parry except the spears. I personally like Falchion>Longsword, Dagger>Estoc or Estoc>Uchi R1 to R2.
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I don't care for weapon parrying, I prefer blocking, it allows me to keep my weapon out for longer periods of time. If I want to parry, I switch out to Buckler, and if I get out I switch over to the Tracer for extra damage, then I go back to the CB.Automancer wrote:Dibsville wrote:A combination? I tried all those, you have to wait for the end of the animation from the L2 in order to R1, with Straight Swords and Katanas, you can R1 in the middle of the L2.Automancer wrote:Daggers, all rapiers, all curved swords, spears.
The weapon classes i listed can attack with the L1 and parry except the spears. I personally like Falchion>Longsword, Dagger>Estoc or Estoc>Uchi R1 to R2.
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I'm just giving you suggestions whether you want to accept them or not.
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I know, and I am considering them whether you think I am or not. I only prefer this setup because I was a duel Katana user in Demon's Souls, so this really hit home for me. I got used to it right away.Automancer wrote:I'm just giving you suggestions whether you want to accept them or not.
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