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    Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:32 pm

    Here's my current build: http://mmdks.com/1jo4
    Now, this build may make me seem like a bad player, but I have a set of rules that I follow when using it.

    1. I NEVER backstab, I only backstab if someone else backstabs me first or if they are CLEARLY trying to backstab me.

    2. I only use Dark Bead on wake-up and from a distance. If I get a backstab/parry, I'll use Dark Bead for an extra 200 damage. I say that because, due to the 180 MagAdj from Ivory Catalyst, and the fact I have no sorcery boosts whatsoever, my Dark Bead maxes out at around 500 damage with a clean shot.

    3. I will switch out to Balder Shield +11 if someone has, (what I think to be), 50+ poise. Wolf Rings are fine, but if I see another armor along with Wolf Ring, I'll go with the shield instead of the sword.

    4. I let other people buff and grass, even if they did not let me do so.

    By following all these rules, I have literally made it so that my only means of killing people is by ACTUALLY attacking, (this is why I use the Iaito over the Uchigatana, it has a better R2), but even so, I'm still getting hate mail saying I'm terrible at PvP? What am I doing wrong?

    EDIT: Secondary version if the build, doesn't have Dark Bead. http://mmdks.com/1jpp


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by kazumoshi on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:35 pm

    Haters, trolls, people angry that you beat them. It's a part of being in an online community.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:37 pm

    kazumoshi wrote:Haters, trolls, people angry that you beat them. It's a part of being in an online community.
    True, but then again, I've received hate mail from these stupid Hornet Ring + Great Club users because they couldn't OHKO my precious 1800HP then I kill them with a single backstab.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:39 pm

    Dibsville wrote:What am I doing wrong?

    Winning.

    People generally don't like losing, ignore them.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:40 pm

    Phoenix Rising wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:What am I doing wrong?

    Winning.

    People generally don't like losing, ignore them.
    But I leik winning. *sob*


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by kazumoshi on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:41 pm

    It's the people that want to win the most, that will be the most irate when they lose.

    When people are conducting themselves irrationally and immaturely online, they should usually be treated as such. You can be the bigger man, and just leave their jabs without a response, or you could troll them a little. That's always fun.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Pilgrim34 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:41 pm

    Yep, as the others have said it's just an inevitable fact of online play.

    In the grand scheme of things Dark Souls really isn't too bad, I used to play Jedi Academy online for many years and the amount of flaming/trolling/hacking/exploits/abuse and griefing that went on in that game was totally unbelievable.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:47 pm

    You all make good points, but the thing is, the only thing I could possibly do to get any less terrible is switch to a straightsword in my right hand, which would actually make me stronger, and I could also take off Dark Bead and put, say, another Great Magic Weapon, or maybe Fall Control.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by LordTransvalence on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:22 pm

    Yeah like they said its because people who win alot expect to win. Like i was on Pep_Pock s Twitch , got on my 125 and duel ' d in the burg last night. I beat him , and blamed it on pursuer spam , (Which i only used once) , Its a matter dominance.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by KrazykevS10 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:30 pm

    If you only backstab and bead at the times you have said,you aren't doing a damn thing wrong by any logical standards.You will get hatemail no matter how you play,people are just immature.
    I conduct myself with a similar set of rules,no backstabs,I allow buffs and bow,I only heal when somebody purely BS fishes or chainstabs.I get called hacker and have my sexuality questioned every day.

    Haters gonna hate.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by BeeSeaEss on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:35 pm

    Well...crystal magic weapon + katana...as you can seeeeee.....yea....I generally dont like that and I dont even try to fight that. I dont really see how you could get that much hate mail, it's generally not super cheap, I usually get frustrated and send hatemail only if the player wastes my time with a lame fight or just wants to ruin my game with some cheap tactic.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by kazumoshi on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:43 pm

    BeeSeaEss wrote:Well...crystal magic weapon + katana...as you can seeeeee.....yea....I generally dont like that and I dont even try to fight that. I dont really see how you could get that much hate mail, it's generally not super cheap, I usually get frustrated and send hatemail only if the player wastes my time with a lame fight or just wants to ruin my game with some cheap tactic.

    That is not crystal, but great magic weapon. It's slightly better than lightning resin at his level.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:45 pm

    KrazykevS10 wrote:If you only backstab and bead at the times you have said,you aren't doing a damn thing wrong by any logical standards.You will get hatemail no matter how you play,people are just immature.
    I conduct myself with a similar set of rules,no backstabs,I allow buffs and bow,I only heal when somebody purely BS fishes or chainstabs.I get called hacker and have my sexuality questioned every day.

    Haters gonna hate.
    Oh yeah, I forgot to put that rule down. If I somehow survive a BS chain, I heal. Otherwise, I NEVER heal.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:46 pm

    kazumoshi wrote:
    BeeSeaEss wrote:Well...crystal magic weapon + katana...as you can seeeeee.....yea....I generally dont like that and I dont even try to fight that. I dont really see how you could get that much hate mail, it's generally not super cheap, I usually get frustrated and send hatemail only if the player wastes my time with a lame fight or just wants to ruin my game with some cheap tactic.

    That is not crystal, but great magic weapon. It's slightly better than lightning resin at his level.
    Yes, it's an infinite Lightning Resin with 180 MadAdj. The only reason this build even has magic is because I wanted to use a resin infinitely, and with Lightning Resin being the best, I went with 16 INT for Great Magic Weapon.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

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    BeeSeaEss wrote:Well...crystal magic weapon + katana...as you can seeeeee.....yea....I generally dont like that and I dont even try to fight that. I dont really see how you could get that much hate mail, it's generally not super cheap, I usually get frustrated and send hatemail only if the player wastes my time with a lame fight or just wants to ruin my game with some cheap tactic.
    It's Great Magic Weapon, and with it I only get 608 damage in total, this is through split damage. The Katana isn't needed for this build whatsoever, I just like the moveset. Normally, if I bleed someone out, I drop them a Humanity so they can heal it off.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by BeeSeaEss on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:50 pm

    Haha, I read that wrong...oopsie silly


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:53 pm

    BeeSeaEss wrote:Haha, I read that wrong...oopsie silly
    Lol. silly
    By the way, It's an Iaito, which is the weakest of the Katanas, (yes, Washing Pole is stronger), and the only reason I use it is for its dashing R2. Besides, if I switched off to something else, I would be giving myself an advantage, as any other weapon would be more versatile.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by BeeSeaEss on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:59 pm

    Iato has a great dead angling ability which I use, I know the washingpole has the mosst AR katana besides Chaos Blade, since its GMW I have no qualms with your build and dont see why you would get hate, I use WoG on my 40 faith build with no boosters and CAP at 400 dmg and I dont get hatemail.

    You shoudl raise ure dex to 45 for that casting time silly


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

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    BeeSeaEss wrote:Iato has a great dead angling ability which I use, I know the washingpole has the mosst AR katana besides Chaos Blade, since its GMW I have no qualms with your build and dont see why you would get hate, I use WoG on my 40 faith build with no boosters and CAP at 400 dmg and I dont get hatemail.

    You shoudl raise ure dex to 45 for that casting time silly
    Yeah, I'm still deciding whether to go for 45 DEX or 45 END, the extra cast time on Dark Bead doesn't seem necessary, though, as at this speed the only reason it won't hit is if the person blocks, assuming I don't delay after my parry. Just remember I only use Bead for wake-ups, and for the most part people let me buff before we fight, so extra cast time really isn't needed. Getting 45 END would let me put a weapon that I could use against the people who "Kite", such as a Silver Knight Spear.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by EeAyEss on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:26 pm

    That build is fine. Honestly, to piss someone off, try buffing your BSS with strong magic shield. See how pissed they get then.




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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by Dibsville on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:28 pm

    EeAyEss wrote:That build is fine. Honestly, to piss someone off, try buffing your BSS with strong magic shield. See how pissed they get then.




    This is one key rule in PvP:


    The only way to not get hate mail is to stand there and die.
    I was just wondering if I could buff my BSS with SMS, but I haven't tried it. I'll check Magic Shield right now.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by EeAyEss on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:29 pm

    If you do that, you can block anything with that sword. No joke.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

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    Dibsville wrote:
    EeAyEss wrote:That build is fine. Honestly, to piss someone off, try buffing your BSS with strong magic shield. See how pissed they get then.




    This is one key rule in PvP:


    The only way to not get hate mail is to stand there and die.
    I was just wondering if I could buff my BSS with SMS, but I haven't tried it. I'll check Magic Shield right now.
    WOW! I shouldn't be surprised, but wow, I never knew you could do that. I'll definitely be buffing my BSS over my Iaito now, more damage output.


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

    Post by EeAyEss on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:32 pm

    Does magic shield work on the BSS? :shock:


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    Re: Why am I so hated?

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    EeAyEss wrote:Does magic shield work on the BSS? :shock:
    Yeah, just checked. Not only did I get extra damage like I had cast GMW on it, but it also blocked a lot more. Now it's a shield as well!


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