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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Walter_White on Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:43 pm

    need pbct and yurt dead for mepistopholes to appear
    pbct is not pbwt!


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Micha369 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:54 pm

    I did everything this way. I killed Yurt already when the murder in my Nexus began.
    And the quests from Mephisto were a piece of cake. Done! Only the friends ring were missed.
    Now I'm in ng++.

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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by twigsterxd on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:08 pm

    Friend ring requires pwct. Also, make sure you said, "YES" to dude at very top of nexus, (forget the name)


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Micha369 on Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:12 am

    I hate old monk! The cut scene is always so boring!!!!
    How could one prevent this cut scene?


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Walter_White on Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:53 am

    press start
    in multiplayer all have to press start


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by befowler on Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:17 pm

    I have a question about this fight -- are you matched with other players in your sl range, or just anybody?  My guy in the 30s was summoned by the monk, and I ended up fighting 2 players that were both using cursed weapon buffed DBSs.  My lowly longsword was not a match, to put it mildly, and I don't see how their builds were possible in the 30-40 range.


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Dibsville on Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:21 pm

    befowler wrote:I have a question about this fight -- are you matched with other players in your sl range, or just anybody?  My guy in the 30s was summoned by the monk, and I ended up fighting 2 players that were both using cursed weapon buffed DBSs.  My lowly longsword was not a match, to put it mildly, and I don't see how their builds were possible in the 30-40 range.
    Works basically the same way as Red Eye Orb, although I've had instances where I'm almost twice the level of the person I am summoned to fight.


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by passivefamiliar on Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:23 pm

    i'very never been ridiculously higher. But had several where they were.  Pretty sure it starts looking in your range and just goes up till it finds someone. Tough luck if the person is.  100 Lvls above you.


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by twigsterxd on Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:40 pm

    befowler wrote:I have a question about this fight -- are you matched with other players in your sl range, or just anybody?  My guy in the 30s was summoned by the monk, and I ended up fighting 2 players that were both using cursed weapon buffed DBSs.  My lowly longsword was not a match, to put it mildly, and I don't see how their builds were possible in the 30-40 range.
    It works the same as a regular invasion, +/-10%
    If you're sl 30 they can be sl 20 - 40 no higher or lower
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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Walter_White on Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:33 am

    formula for all multiplayer contacts is
    sl +/- (10 + sl/10)
    So 17 to 43 on sl 30 and i think cursed DBS 2handed works at sl 43

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     now i've done the math - i can 2hand a cursed DBS on SL20. Take Temple Knight, put 10 on Int an 6 on Strg - u got it. With 42 i would think of doing it 1handed (so 10 more in Strg.), or better all points in vit and end, not sure - but i works pretty good on sl42


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by FAMISIL1 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:24 pm

    Could anyone spare a old monk wrap?


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Reaperfan on Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:50 am

    FAMISIL1 wrote:Could anyone spare a old monk wrap?

    Every Wrap I've ever gotten has been because the host died before they even got to the boss room. Never even had to fight the PvP match more than once or twice. Not that trading isn't an option, but it's not that hard to try and get it naturally. Just get summoned as the boss enough times and you'll get it for free because of some host who got offed by the Cthulu guards happy

    PS: I'm giving you this advice because I can't help with the trade itself, but I still want to feel like I'm helping straight face


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by FAMISIL1 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:47 pm

    Ahah, thanks

    I got summoned to be the boss and defeated the host
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    headwarp=heabutt

    Post by passivefamiliar on Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:48 pm

    update! For those unaware, as the old monk anyway I didn't test it otherwise...slipped my mind. But if your BAREHANDED and have the head wrap on the 'push' animation because a headbutt.

    so much win!


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Undiscovery on Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:31 pm

    I didn't know that about the headbutt, is it effective at all? 

    I main an Adjudicator Build (Shrine Miracles + Max Health regen + Cursed Clever) so I can't recall any lost fights as the old monk, and I do recall many hosts perishing before meeting me. I love sparing against DBS with the Clever because they are twin builds. And ganker Old Monk Battles are ridiculous fun, I actually prefer the host have back-up as the extra health for my build is overkill. I don't see many people with the Clever though, most go for DBS but Clever >, IMO. They definitely need more boss fights like this, I think the Mirror Knight in DksII is going to have a similar mechanic.


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Walter_White on Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:48 pm

    headbutt is the push animation for barehand with every head gear so no damage at all


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Undiscovery on Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:06 pm

    Ah, that explains it, I've never barehanded, not even out of curiousity..

    Headbutts are BAMF status though. But sadly, only the kind that damage are.


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Dogwelder on Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:47 am

    Walter_White wrote:headbutt is the push animation for barehand with every head gear so no damage at all

    Ha, really? You can headbutt enemies? I can't believe I'm still finding out new things like this about DES after all this time. What a game.

    Time to go headbutt a Depraved One off a walkway and into oblivion...


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by twigsterxd on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:18 am

    Walter_White wrote:formula for all multiplayer contacts is
    sl +/- (10 + sl/10)
    So 17 to 43 on sl 30 and i think cursed DBS 2handed works at sl 43

    edit:
     now i've done the math - i can 2hand a cursed DBS on SL20. Take Temple Knight, put 10 on Int an 6 on Strg - u got it. With 42 i would think of doing it 1handed (so 10 more in Strg.), or better all points in vit and end, not sure - but i works pretty good on sl42

    I don't think that formula works with invasions. Tried to help bef last nite with de levelling. He had a 30, me 35. He tried invading me and kept getting fails. Co op was good, so no connection problems. Why can't he invade me?
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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Reaperfan on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:24 am

    Dogwelder wrote:
    Walter_White wrote:headbutt is the push animation for barehand with every head gear so no damage at all

    Ha, really? You can headbutt enemies? I can't believe I'm still finding out new things like this about DES after all this time. What a game.

    Time to go headbutt a Depraved One off a walkway and into oblivion...



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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by Walter_White on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:08 pm

    twigsterxd wrote:
    Walter_White wrote:formula for all multiplayer contacts is
    sl +/- (10 + sl/10)
    So 17 to 43 on sl 30 and i think cursed DBS 2handed works at sl 43

    edit:
     now i've done the math - i can 2hand a cursed DBS on SL20. Take Temple Knight, put 10 on Int an 6 on Strg - u got it. With 42 i would think of doing it 1handed (so 10 more in Strg.), or better all points in vit and end, not sure - but i works pretty good on sl42

    I don't think that formula works with invasions. Tried to help bef last nite with de levelling. He had a 30, me 35. He tried invading me and kept getting fails. Co op was good, so no connection problems. Why can't he invade me?

    The 30 should always be able to invade a 35. I read rumors, that you can only invade someone over your sl with that formular, but that would be a really small range and i proved that wrong already. I invaded someone below my sl, although it was only within the - sl/10 without the added 10.

    Try to relogin to PSN and Demons Souls Server both if this happens again, often this helps.

    @reaper: has he poisoned them before the headbutt pushlock? He's doing damage with a headbutt surprised 
    never did damage, when i push someone in the next Abyss with headbutts


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    Re: Old monk fight

    Post by twigsterxd on Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:40 pm

    We tried everything Walter. Gonna co op our toons cause I need rss for him to get pwct. Invasions have been slow lately.


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