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    Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:47 pm

    I just picked up demon souls and I would like to know if it is possible to emulate my preferred build from dark souls in demon souls and if so the best way.
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    Black Iron Battle Mage
    These are the two loadouts I normally use on the build. I guess my play style would normally be battle mage with mid and close range casting combined with melee.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by densetsushun on Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:55 pm

    It's definitely possible, but I'd advise you to forget about builds if this is your first time, just enjoy the game your first playthrough. silly


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:25 pm

    I guess Ill do that. Just started a knight because it looked like it had the most even stat allocation at the start.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WandererReece on Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:36 pm

    That's a nice little brain bender you made. lol!

    I did the best I can.

    Sage Knight

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    Monk's Head Collar

    Venerable Sage Robe

    Ancient King's Guantlents

    Ancient King's Leggings

    Ring of Magical Sharpness

    Cling Ring

    Dark Silver Shield

    Wooden Catalyst

    Phosphorescent Pole / Cresent Winged Spear

    Homing Soul Arow

    Soul Ray

    Ignite


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    Monk's Head Collar

    Ancient King's Breastplate

    Ancient King's Guantlents

    Ancient Kings Leggings

    Ring of Magical Sharpness

    Cling Ring

    Dark Silver Shield (There's nothing similar to Grass Crest Shield.)

    Moon Bastard Sword (Moonlight Greatsword can't be used because it scales with Faith.)

    Wooden Catalyst

    Homming Soul Arrow

    Soul Ray

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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:00 pm

    WandererReece wrote:That's a nice little brain bender you made. lol!

    I did the best I can.

    Sage Knight

    Spoiler:
    Monk's Head Collar

    Venerable Sage Robe

    Ancient King's Guantlents

    Ancient King's Leggings

    Ring of Magical Sharpness

    Cling Ring

    Dark Silver Shield

    Wooden Catalyst

    Phosphorescent Pole / Cresent Winged Spear

    Homing Soul Arow

    Soul Ray

    Ignite


    Black Iron Battle Mage

    Spoiler:
    Monk's Head Collar

    Ancient King's Breastplate

    Ancient King's Guantlents

    Ancient Kings Leggings

    Ring of Magical Sharpness

    Cling Ring

    Dark Silver Shield (There's nothing similar to Grass Crest Shield.)

    Moon Bastard Sword (Moonlight Greatsword can't be used because it scales with Faith.)

    Wooden Catalyst

    Homming Soul Arrow

    Soul Ray

    Ignite

    Cool I'll have to keep an eye out for that gear. Still messing about with the dragon on the bridge in the boletarian palace. Haven't level up yet so after this I guess Ill look into how I'm going to lay my stats down for the first few levels.

    Edit: oh yeah I forgot this game had gender specific stuff. I made a female character. Will that come back and bite me on gear?


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:11 pm

    BagerX2 wrote:I guess Ill do that. Just started a knight because it looked like it had the most even stat allocation at the start.

    Pick the classes with the lowest Luck stat, like Temple Knight, Priest and Royalty.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:16 pm

    Yeah you won't be able to use the Sage Robe if you're female.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WandererReece on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:17 pm

    wyrmhero wrote:Pick the classes with the lowest Luck stat, like Temple Knight, Priest and Royalty

    I think the Theif is a good class, and she starts with the sexiest outfit. ❤ I liked the Demons' Souls version of Black Leather better.

    BagerX2 wrote:Edit: oh yeah I forgot this game had gender specific stuff. I made a female character. Will that come back and bite me on gear?

    Honestly, I prefer females. They can were the silver bracelets. They go on the hands and increase the amount of souls gained. Female clothing is also lighter then male clothing, but less protective.

    Keep an eye out for an outfit called Rouge Armor. It's my favorite. It's lightweight and has high magic defense. It's female only.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:24 pm

    Well this is my first character so I can learn a few tricks. Might do a male royal next. It took me 3 runs before I figured out what I liked in dark souls so it could take a few in this as well. As of right now though I miss my magic sad


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WandererReece on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:28 pm

    ^ The royal is good. It starts with soul arrow and fragrant ring. It can make the first area a little easier.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:39 pm

    Just got my mission from the monumental. I should have enough souls to level and get some magic, will just have to find where to buy it.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by densetsushun on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:58 pm

    Find the guy who'll likely call you a brute. I won't spoil it for you, but it's an indication as to what you have to do to get him to talk. silly


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:59 pm

    Ok so intelligence is like attunement? If that is the case and I only want 4 slots I would just need to go up to 24?


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:05 pm

    This is how I would do your Battle Mage. Since you picked the knight class I think it will turn out very good.

    Increase your stats EXACTLY as I have them here. Att = Int, Int = Mag, Res = Luck (don't increase it):

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=198807737559286553

    Equipment:

    -Large Sword of Moonlight
    -Baby's Nail
    -Dark Silver Shield
    -Talisman of Beasts
    -Any armor combo that lets you have less than 50% equipload for fast roll.

    Rings:

    -Phantom: Friend's/Foe's Ring and Cling Ring
    -Host: Ring of Magical Sharpness and the Cloranthy Ring equivalent (forgot)

    Spells:

    -Homing Soulmass
    -Soul Ray
    -Warding
    -Second Chance
    -Wrath of Gods

    This is an interesting build which uses max AR from the MLGS through Faith and at the same time it has powerful defensive spells. Use Warding when Second Chance fades. Use Baby's Nail to inflict toxic status on most builds with 5 hits spam.



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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:13 pm

    densetsushun wrote:Find the guy who'll likely call you a brute. I won't spoil it for you, but it's an indication as to what you have to do to get him to talk. silly
    I found him, bought spells, and he insulted me... rude


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:23 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:This is how I would do your Battle Mage. Since you picked the knight class I think it will turn out very good.

    Increase your stats EXACTLY as I have them here. Att = Int, Int = Mag, Res = Luck (don't increase it):

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=198807737559286553

    Equipment:

    -Large Sword of Moonlight
    -Baby's Nail
    -Dark Silver Shield
    -Talisman of Beasts
    -Any armor combo that lets you have less than 50% equipload for fast roll.

    Rings:

    -Phantom: Friend's/Foe's Ring and Cling Ring
    -Host: Ring of Magical Sharpness and the Cloranthy Ring equivalent (forgot)

    Spells:

    -Homing Soulmass
    -Soul Ray
    -Warding
    -Second Chance
    -Wrath of Gods

    This is an interesting build which uses max AR from the MLGS through Faith and at the same time it has powerful defensive spells. Use Warding when Second Chance fades. Use Baby's Nail to inflict toxic status on most builds with 5 hits spam.

    This could be interesting. I have go to start finding stuff so I can make build work. Can you transfer things like in darksouls using another player? If you can that would make every build after this a cake walk.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:32 pm

    Yeah you can. Also if you wanna use Combustion (bit slower than in DkS though), increase Int to 24 and lower Faith to 30. You will have 1 unused Faith slot because Second Chance takes 2 slots. Attune any miracle you would like but they aren't as useful as magic. I recommend Resurrection for the lulz.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WandererReece on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:38 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:I recommend Resurrection for the lulz.

    That's hateful. :evil: Why bother summoning them if you're just going to kick them out?


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

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    WandererReece wrote:
    WyrmHero wrote:I recommend Resurrection for the lulz.

    That's hateful. :evil: Why bother summoning them if you're just going to kick them out?

    Yeah lol. Miracles are too slow for PvP, and most of them are self buffs. Once you cast Second Chance you won't be able to use the useful ones, like Regeneration.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:46 pm

    Well got my winged spear, now I need to make it a moon winged spear. A long way to go but at least I have my first piece.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:50 pm

    Use the Bastard Sword meanwhile so you get used to greatsword's moveset.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WandererReece on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:59 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:
    WandererReece wrote:
    WyrmHero wrote:I recommend Resurrection for the lulz.

    That's hateful. :evil: Why bother summoning them if you're just going to kick them out?

    Yeah lol. Miracles are too slow for PvP, and most of them are self buffs. Once you cast Second Chance you won't be able to use the useful ones, like Regeneration.

    Still didn't answer the question.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

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    WandererReece wrote:
    WyrmHero wrote:
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    WyrmHero wrote:I recommend Resurrection for the lulz.

    That's hateful. :evil: Why bother summoning them if you're just going to kick them out?

    Yeah lol. Miracles are too slow for PvP, and most of them are self buffs. Once you cast Second Chance you won't be able to use the useful ones, like Regeneration.

    Still didn't answer the question.

    It's not something I would do.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by BagerX2 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:52 pm

    Well Im working my way through ok. the bosses so far have been a joke, big knight guy and a giant spider. the only things that have really killed me are the squid guys in latria. Im about to go after large sharp stone, just have to find the guy in the second part of that mine. then I can upgrade bastard sword and winged spear. I still have complete trash armor, thats the next goal.


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    Re: Emulate DKS build in DS

    Post by WandererReece on Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:47 am

    WyrmHero wrote:
    WandererReece wrote:Still didn't answer the question.

    It's not something I would do.

    Then why recommend Resurrection?


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