Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Yarxov on Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:56 pm

    Silver Knight sword was allowed Resin in 1.05 afaik.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Reaperfan on Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:57 pm

    I was gonna say something about the Great Lord Greatsword but it seems you've made up your mind already happy

    I will add though that unique weapons that are able to be buffed seem to be on a case by case basis, as things like the previously mentioned Silver Knight Sword and the Dragon Bone Fist I know for a fact can be buffed. I do wonder why the Great Lord Greatsword was excluded from this though, since being buffed would be the only way to make it viable due to its highly underwhelming stats.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Lancelot on Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:59 pm

    Yarxov wrote:Silver Knight sword was allowed Resin in 1.05 afaik.

    So it was just an exception? Alright, thanks.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:36 am

    Seems the general consensus in this thread right now is that it sucks, but I disagree.

    For one, if anyone in here based their opinion on pre-1.05 numbers, I'm pretty sure it's been buffed.

    But, more important than damage, this thing seems to be an absolute poise-crusher. Very few people use it, so I haven't had many chances to experiment against it in PvP, but when I came across it the results were surprising. With 76 poise I'm pretty sure it would stun-lock me in 1 hit, one handed.

    Only reason I haven't tried it extensively myself yet, is that I don't have a build that lends itself to testing it in PvP. But since you already have a BKGA build, I say definitely give it a try, you may be surprised.

    Great Lord Greatsword could be the most underrated weapon in Dark Souls right now, and its best kept secret for PvP.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Lancelot on Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:04 am

    BLA1NE wrote:Seems the general consensus in this thread right now is that it sucks, but I disagree.

    For one, if anyone in here based their opinion on pre-1.05 numbers, I'm pretty sure it's been buffed.

    But, more important than damage, this thing seems to be an absolute poise-crusher. Very few people use it, so I haven't had many chances to experiment against it in PvP, but when I came across it the results were surprising. With 76 poise I'm pretty sure it would stun-lock me in 1 hit, one handed.

    Only reason I haven't tried it extensively myself yet, is that I don't have a build that lends itself to testing it in PvP. But since you already have a BKGA build, I say definitely give it a try, you may be surprised.

    Great Lord Greatsword could be the most underrated weapon in Dark Souls right now, and its best kept secret for PvP.

    Even with it's stun-lock, it can't do great combos on someone without then rolling away, I'm sure.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:14 am

    I say even if you only get 1 free hit, that's a pretty good bonus just for landing a hit!

    It's worth trying out a weapon for.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by bloodpixel on Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:31 am

    The last time someone used that on me I parried and killed them.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:54 am

    That can be said of any weapon!

    Especially the Great Scythe everyone loves to rave about now. And especially the BKGA, too. Two weapons that are easier to parry than the GLGS; one the community loves, one TC loves.

    All I'm saying is give GLGS a try.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:12 am

    BLA1NE wrote:Seems the general consensus in this thread right now is that it sucks, but I disagree.

    For one, if anyone in here based their opinion on pre-1.05 numbers, I'm pretty sure it's been buffed.

    But, more important than damage, this thing seems to be an absolute poise-crusher. Very few people use it, so I haven't had many chances to experiment against it in PvP, but when I came across it the results were surprising. With 76 poise I'm pretty sure it would stun-lock me in 1 hit, one handed.

    Only reason I haven't tried it extensively myself yet, is that I don't have a build that lends itself to testing it in PvP. But since you already have a BKGA build, I say definitely give it a try, you may be surprised.

    Great Lord Greatsword could be the most underrated weapon in Dark Souls right now, and its best kept secret for PvP.

    Yeah, what Blaine said, I fought guys that used this weapon and 1 hit of it (they were using it 2-handed) I was stunlocked even with 52 poise. With 52 poise I can resist 1 hit of a Claymore. So indeed, the Great Lord Greatsword does more damage to Poise than other Greatswords.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Brokewilly on Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:55 am

    The Great Lord Greatsword is indeed a poise crusher - I have PvP'd against it few times and got beat every time even with my poise being high enough to take 1 shot from a greatsword class weapon. As soon as I see one I immediately equip a high stability shield and evade like crazy while looking for an opening - that's all I have been able to do. It is one of those weapons that if you are hit even once you probably will be stun-locked and all you can do is pray your opponent runs out of steam before you die. It does use up a lot of stamina to swing (so use that to your advantage when fighting against one) and I can see how it could be easily parried by a brave individual. The scaling also leaves a lot to be desired plus its unbuffable.

    A majority of the weapons in this game can be deadly if used by an individual who has invested a lot of time training/fighting with it. The GLGS is no different - so I have learned to respect it even with all its shortcomings.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by justwant2play on Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:22 am

    I wish they made this weapon come with fire damage.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:00 am

    its fun when you get off the 2 handed r2, even heavy armor people get squashed to the floor! might be the point of the weapon; poise massacre.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Lancelot on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:30 am

    I suppose I will give it a try. Hopefully, I wont be let down.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Scudman_Slayer on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:02 am

    Lancelot wrote:
    Glutebrah wrote:
    Lancelot wrote:Thanks for your insight.

    Do you only attempt backstabs when some one gives their back due to a missed attack?? Or do you just circle people and pivot them??? Agian i am curious to your playstyle.

    It generally depends on their weapon. If they're using a poor weapon such as Dragon Tooth, backstabbing appears each time they attack.

    If they use a quick weapon such as the Uchigatana, I'll resort to switching to both hands and attacking when I can.

    Btw, rolling is my only act of defence. I don't use shields, only the Grass Crest, which I use while using both hands.


    to me as long as you don't keep circling...and circling...and circling for a backstabs trying to pivot someone resulting in a lagstab most of the times its all good

    if oyu try to backstab when the guy attacks its fine that takes skill but its still boring as hell IMO


    specially due to the fact you're using the dark knight greataxe which is one of the most powerfull weapons in the game its not meant to be used for backstabing

    if you like backstabing a lot get a dagger it will end up doing a lot more damage on a backstab than anything else specially the bandit's knife

    IMO:Dark knight greataxe is NOT meant to be used for backstabs look at the damn thing its boodly huge :|

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    i have PVP'ed against some with great lord greatsword so for me its a Poise crusher i mean it
    i had 90 poise and the guy stun-locked me on one hit!

    thank god i managed to parry and riposte in the end silly

    i respect anyone who uses underrated weapons really this weapon can be one heck of a good one in the right hands but some people never bother trying it out :/



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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by LOLRagezzz on Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:58 pm

    Lancelot wrote:I, personally, dislike taking chances and like winning as soon as possible. That's why BSing is my favorite tactic in PvP.

    Kids on the battlefield!


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Yarxov on Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:02 pm

    Kid with a big axe.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by WarriorOfSunlight on Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:31 pm

    You've upset the elitist pvp community now haha


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Lancelot on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:17 pm

    Every peep has their own opinion and preference :C


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by Yarxov on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:22 pm

    Indeed. But as a Hater, it is my Duty, and Pleasure, to Hate.


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    Post by WarriorOfSunlight on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:40 pm

    Don't worry Lancelot, they get angry when folks don't follow their self imposed pvp rules and 'honour' codes and expect everyone else to know these.


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    Post by Yarxov on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:41 pm

    It's common sense and basic manners actually. But this is not the time or place.


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    Re: Great Lord Greatsword: Is it worth it?

    Post by WarriorOfSunlight on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:45 pm

    Since when? Nobody complained about this in Demon's Souls. People can play the game however they want, he's not cheating. Hating them won't change a thing.


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    Post by Yarxov on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:47 pm

    Never said he was cheating, never said he had to play with a code of honor. But don't be rude and try to ruin it for everyone else. BTT, I don't want to argue about this, you shouldn't either since there are a dozen others who are more "Honor bound" than I.


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    Post by WarriorOfSunlight on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:57 pm

    Since my opinion is far too rude for these forums, I'll be going, sorry for ruining this thread for everyone, I guess everyone was right to hate the new guy for his play style and turn it into a pvp thread on the general discussion one. End of thread.


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    Post by Yarxov on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:59 pm

    Everyone is welcome, I am simply avoiding conflict, don't give up yet you can still contribute.


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