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New guy need help.
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New guy need help.
Hello guys, i'm currently new to the forums. I'm playing Dark Souls and i was wondering if any of you have any suggestion for me, i currently have no idea how to build my character for PvE, i'm running a Wanderer right now and just defeated the Ceaseless Discharge.
Any equipment/stat suggestion is welcome. Thanks
Any equipment/stat suggestion is welcome. Thanks
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Maneater_Mildred wrote:Welcome to the wiki.
Check out this thread. Tons of great advice. rookie guide
Thanks! I will check it out.
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http://mmdks.com/1epc
The Wanderer starts as a dexterity build, so I suggest keeping it that way. This build I made shows some of my suggestions. The stats at 40 are the most important ones for a dexterity build, and they shouldn't go above 40.
The Wanderer starts with 11 attunement. 10 = 1 slot, and 12 = 2 slots. See the problem? I would get the attunement to 12 so you don't have one wasted point. You can also upgrade it further if you want, but I wouldn't recommend more then 19. That's just after deminishing returns and gives 5 slots. 5 is half of the slots attunment can give you. The most is 10 slots at 50 attunement.
This is a dexerity build, so don't put a lot into strength. You can get by with just the 10 that you start with, but a few dexterity weapons need 14 or 16 strength. I would not recommend more then 16 strength.
The best magic early on is Phyromancies. The best ones in my opinion are Great Combustion, Great Fireball, and Power Within. You can invest points into intelligents or faith if you want.
Get rid of the leather shield. I would recommend the Crest Shield for magic defense, Dragon Crest Shield for fire defense, and Grass Crest Shield for stamina regeneration. Those three shields are the greatest shields in the game in my opinion.
There are many rings in the game. The two in the link are probably the most useful.
The Falchon is actuallly a great weapon, but there are other options. You'll want weapons that have at least a B on dexterity. Also, the Shotel, a curved sword, can go through shields. It's the pride and joy of the dexterity builds, and I highly recommend it as a backup if you get invaded.
Also, you'll want armor that you can fast roll in. It shouldn't be hard to do since dexterity weapons are lightweight.
The Wanderer starts as a dexterity build, so I suggest keeping it that way. This build I made shows some of my suggestions. The stats at 40 are the most important ones for a dexterity build, and they shouldn't go above 40.
The Wanderer starts with 11 attunement. 10 = 1 slot, and 12 = 2 slots. See the problem? I would get the attunement to 12 so you don't have one wasted point. You can also upgrade it further if you want, but I wouldn't recommend more then 19. That's just after deminishing returns and gives 5 slots. 5 is half of the slots attunment can give you. The most is 10 slots at 50 attunement.
This is a dexerity build, so don't put a lot into strength. You can get by with just the 10 that you start with, but a few dexterity weapons need 14 or 16 strength. I would not recommend more then 16 strength.
The best magic early on is Phyromancies. The best ones in my opinion are Great Combustion, Great Fireball, and Power Within. You can invest points into intelligents or faith if you want.
Get rid of the leather shield. I would recommend the Crest Shield for magic defense, Dragon Crest Shield for fire defense, and Grass Crest Shield for stamina regeneration. Those three shields are the greatest shields in the game in my opinion.
There are many rings in the game. The two in the link are probably the most useful.
The Falchon is actuallly a great weapon, but there are other options. You'll want weapons that have at least a B on dexterity. Also, the Shotel, a curved sword, can go through shields. It's the pride and joy of the dexterity builds, and I highly recommend it as a backup if you get invaded.
Also, you'll want armor that you can fast roll in. It shouldn't be hard to do since dexterity weapons are lightweight.
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WandererReece wrote:http://mmdks.com/1epc
The Wanderer starts as a dexterity build, so I suggest keeping it that way. This build I made shows some of my suggestions. The stats at 40 are the most important ones for a dexterity build, and they shouldn't go above 40.
The Wanderer starts with 11 attunement. 10 = 1 slot, and 12 = 2 slots. See the problem? I would get the attunement to 12 so you don't have one wasted point. You can also upgrade it further if you want, but I wouldn't recommend more then 19. That's just after deminishing returns and gives 5 slots. 5 is half of the slots attunment can give you. The most is 10 slots at 50 attunement.
This is a dexerity build, so don't put a lot into strength. You can get by with just the 10 that you start with, but a few dexterity weapons need 14 or 16 strength. I would not recommend more then 16 strength.
The best magic early on is Phyromancies. The best ones in my opinion are Great Combustion, Great Fireball, and Power Within. You can invest points into intelligents or faith if you want.
Get rid of the leather shield. I would recommend the Crest Shield for magic defense, Dragon Crest Shield for fire defense, and Grass Crest Shield for stamina regeneration. Those three shields are the greatest shields in the game in my opinion.
There are many rings in the game. The two in the link are probably the most useful.
The Falchon is actuallly a great weapon, but there are other options. You'll want weapons that have at least a B on dexterity. Also, the Shotel, a curved sword, can go through shields.
Also, you'll want armor that you can fast roll in. It shouldn't be hard to do since dexterity weapons are lightweight.
Thanks for the answer.
I think i screwed my character a bit because right now i'm at SL35 i believe, and i have around 20 Strength.
Also i'm trying to get 25 Faith to join the Warrior of the Sunlight covenant, is it a good idea?
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^ A dexterity / faith is great for dueling. I got one right now that dominates some people. I would actually take the faith up to 30. That gives you Wrath of Gods and Sunlight Blade. Canvas is best at that level.
20 strength alraight. That's the minimum for the Dragonslayer Greatbow. If you increase it to 24 then you can use the Server and Gravelord Sword 1 handed. They're both great curved swords. I didn't recomend them only because they take more strength then the others and weigh more, but they do more damage then most, if not all, dexterity weapons. Also, the Gravelord Sword is the only weapon with Toxic and looks cool.
Also, the Shotel is a great backup. It passing through shields is totaly worth it.
http://mmdks.com/1eq6 <- The server is ony if you decide to put 4 more points in strength.
20 strength alraight. That's the minimum for the Dragonslayer Greatbow. If you increase it to 24 then you can use the Server and Gravelord Sword 1 handed. They're both great curved swords. I didn't recomend them only because they take more strength then the others and weigh more, but they do more damage then most, if not all, dexterity weapons. Also, the Gravelord Sword is the only weapon with Toxic and looks cool.
Also, the Shotel is a great backup. It passing through shields is totaly worth it.
http://mmdks.com/1eq6 <- The server is ony if you decide to put 4 more points in strength.
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WandererReece wrote:^ A dexterity / faith is great for dueling. I got one right now that dominates some people. I would actually take the faith up to 30. That gives you Wrath of Gods and Sunlight Blade. Canvas is best at that level.
20 strength alraight. That's the minimum for the Dragonslayer Greatbow. If you increase it to 24 then you can use the Server and Gravelord Sword 1 handed. They're both great curved swords. I didn't recomend them only because they take more strength then the others and weigh more, but they do more damage then most, if not all, dexterity weapons. Also, the Gravelord Sword is the only weapon with Toxic and looks cool.
Also, the Shotel is a great backup. It passing through shields is totaly worth it.
http://mmdks.com/1epc <- The server is ony if you decide to put 4 more points in strength.
Oh then my character isn't lost after all .
So would you recommend me to increase it to 24 since it is already at 20?
I'm gonna try to show you my character using that site.
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^ That is an awsom site to use when planning builds. Everyone here recomends it.
Also, I accidently posted the wrong link. I edited my post and fixed it. I'll post it here too. http://mmdks.com/1eq6 This is what I meant to post when typing about strength and faith.
You can leave it at 20 or increase it to 24. it's your choice. 20's still good for the Dragonslayer Greatbow. It has a nice knock back that's good for bridges.
Also, I accidently posted the wrong link. I edited my post and fixed it. I'll post it here too. http://mmdks.com/1eq6 This is what I meant to post when typing about strength and faith.
You can leave it at 20 or increase it to 24. it's your choice. 20's still good for the Dragonslayer Greatbow. It has a nice knock back that's good for bridges.
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WandererReece wrote:^ That is an awsom site to use when planning builds. Everyone here recomends it.
Also, I accidently posted the wrong link. I edited my post and fixed it. I'll post it here too. http://mmdks.com/1eq6 This is what I meant to post when typing about strength and faith.
Yeah, i can see that!
Haha i was wondering.. "Huh same build"
Here is mine http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=409374812133781075
The one you just posted says invalid link btw.
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Seriously!? The build was supposed to be what I first posted, but with 24 str, 30 fai, Canvas, Server, WoG, and SLB. I'll try to make it work later.LeinadDC wrote:The one you just posted says invalid link btw.
The Drake Sword is really great at the begining of the game, but it eventually gets to a point where it gets bad. Upgrading it won't help. Look for something else.
Like I posted before, the Wanderer starts with 11 attunement. That's one point wasted. You should put at least one more point on it.
Otherwise it looks good right now.
EDIT: The first link is invalid too? When did that happen? It was fine a few minutes ago.
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WandererReece wrote:Seriously!? The build was supposed to be what I first posted, but with 24 str, 30 fai, Canvas, Server, WoG, and SLB. I'll try to make it work later.LeinadDC wrote:The one you just posted says invalid link btw.
The Drake Sword is really great at the begining of the game, but it eventually gets to a point where it gets bad. Upgrading it won't help. Look for something else.
Like I posted before, the Wanderer starts with 11 attunement. That's one point wasted. You should put at least one more point on it.
Otherwise it looks good right now.
EDIT: The first link is invalid too? When did that happen? It was fine a few minutes ago.
Yeah, not sure why.
Well i'm on my way to the city that the giant opened after the second bell is ringed so for the moment i'm still using the Drake Sword i want to change it tho.
Both links are invalid now
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Hmmm. *Examines build* Uhu...
As a beginner, I would suggest a standard STR build as it is the easiest to learn. Considering your progress and current loadout: I recommend this build.
Most of these can be found in the areas leading up to your point. In fact, all of these can be found at Firelink, Undead Burg, Depths and Darkroot. It is important you locate heavy armor to increase your poise: This prevents you from staggering from attacks, which lets you unleash an onslaught of attacks upon your enemies.
Considering your DEX, however. It is not far fetched to include a spear in there if you happen to find them, as they come in handy, even if your build will have them a bit weak.
However, if you wish to use this, you must return to Andre with the Large Ember and try to upgrade all of these items to +5 at least (+10 is tedious at this point), try to get the weapons to +6 (You'll understand) and get a Weapon smithbox.
No, this ain't a "perfect" or marvelous build. In fact, it is kind of mediocre, but it is easy to learn, although a bit difficult to execute at times. I would try to come up with something immediately better, but I don't know exactly what you have done or found.
As a beginner, I would suggest a standard STR build as it is the easiest to learn. Considering your progress and current loadout: I recommend this build.
Most of these can be found in the areas leading up to your point. In fact, all of these can be found at Firelink, Undead Burg, Depths and Darkroot. It is important you locate heavy armor to increase your poise: This prevents you from staggering from attacks, which lets you unleash an onslaught of attacks upon your enemies.
Considering your DEX, however. It is not far fetched to include a spear in there if you happen to find them, as they come in handy, even if your build will have them a bit weak.
However, if you wish to use this, you must return to Andre with the Large Ember and try to upgrade all of these items to +5 at least (+10 is tedious at this point), try to get the weapons to +6 (You'll understand) and get a Weapon smithbox.
No, this ain't a "perfect" or marvelous build. In fact, it is kind of mediocre, but it is easy to learn, although a bit difficult to execute at times. I would try to come up with something immediately better, but I don't know exactly what you have done or found.
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I think I got the links working, but I did a text export just in case.
http://mmdks.com/1e4c <- 1st one
http://mmdks.com/1e4h <- one with server and SLB
http://mmdks.com/1e4c <- 1st one
- Spoiler:
- SL 90 Wanderer
Vit: 40
Att: 12
End: 40
Str: -
Dex: 40
Res: -
Int: -
Fai: -
R1: Falchion
R2: Shotel
L1: Crest Shield
L2: Pyromancy Flame
Armor:
Wanderer hood
Wanderer Coat
Wanderer Manchette
Wanderer Boots
Rings:
Havel's Ring
Wolf Ring
Spells:
Great Fireball
Great Combustion
http://mmdks.com/1e4h <- one with server and SLB
- Spoiler:
- SL 120 Wanderer
Vit: 34
Att: 12
End: 40
Str: 24
Dex: 40
Res: -
Int: -
Fai: 30
R1: Server
R2: Shotel
L1: Crest Shield
L2: Canvas Talisman
Armor:
Wanderer hood
Wanderer Coat
Wanderer Manchette
Wanderer Boots
Rings:
Havel's Ring
Wolf Ring
Spells:
Wrath of the Gods
Sunlight Blade
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Seignar wrote:Hmmm. *Examines build* Uhu...
As a beginner, I would suggest a standard STR build as it is the easiest to learn. Considering your progress and current loadout: I recommend this build.
Most of these can be found in the areas leading up to your point. In fact, all of these can be found at Firelink, Undead Burg, Depths and Darkroot. It is important you locate heavy armor to increase your poise: This prevents you from staggering from attacks, which lets you unleash an onslaught of attacks upon your enemies.
Considering your DEX, however. It is not far fetched to include a spear in there if you happen to find them, as they come in handy, even if your build will have them a bit weak.
However, if you wish to use this, you must return to Andre with the Large Ember and try to upgrade all of these items to +5 at least (+10 is tedious at this point), try to get the weapons to +6 (You'll understand) and get a Weapon smithbox.
No, this ain't a "perfect" or marvelous build. In fact, it is kind of mediocre, but it is easy to learn, although a bit difficult to execute at times. I would try to come up with something immediately better, but I don't know exactly what you have done or found.
I feel like Dark Souls is deeper than Demons Souls.
I've been using the Black Knight Sword lately to 1-2 hits enemies on my way, but i think it is way too heavy for me, thinking on something lighter.
WandererReece wrote:I think I got the links working, but I did a text export just in case.
http://mmdks.com/1e4c <- 1st one
- Spoiler:
SL 90 Wanderer
Vit: 40
Att: 12
End: 40
Str: -
Dex: 40
Res: -
Int: -
Fai: -
R1: Falchion
R2: Shotel
L1: Crest Shield
L2: Pyromancy Flame
Armor:
Wanderer hood
Wanderer Coat
Wanderer Manchette
Wanderer Boots
Rings:
Havel's Ring
Wolf Ring
Spells:
Great Fireball
Great Combustion
http://mmdks.com/1e4h <- one with server and SLB
- Spoiler:
SL 120 Wanderer
Vit: 34
Att: 12
End: 40
Str: 24
Dex: 40
Res: -
Int: -
Fai: 30
R1: Server
R2: Shotel
L1: Crest Shield
L2: Canvas Talisman
Armor:
Wanderer hood
Wanderer Coat
Wanderer Manchette
Wanderer Boots
Rings:
Havel's Ring
Wolf Ring
Spells:
Wrath of the Gods
Sunlight Blade
Yep, they are working now. I think i will upgrade the Wanderer set, is it worth it?
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^ I'm not sure. I'm not that familiar with armor. I was just using it because the Wanderer starts with it and it looks cool. I had to spend almost 2 weeks to get the armor perfect for my character, and that was months ago.
In case your wondering my armor is Child Mask, Chainmail Armor and Leggings, and Maiden Gloves. On my character I get fast roll with 56 poise if I wear the Wolf Ring.
You could use the armor finder on the character planner site. You can specify roll speed, edit the minimum and maximum defenses, remove certain clothings from the list, and force it to use certain clothings.
In case your wondering my armor is Child Mask, Chainmail Armor and Leggings, and Maiden Gloves. On my character I get fast roll with 56 poise if I wear the Wolf Ring.
You could use the armor finder on the character planner site. You can specify roll speed, edit the minimum and maximum defenses, remove certain clothings from the list, and force it to use certain clothings.
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WandererReece wrote:^ I'm not sure. I'm not that familiar with armor. I was just using it because the Wanderer starts with it and it looks cool. I had to spend almost 2 weeks to get the armor perfect for my character, and that was months ago.
In case your wondering my armor is Child Mask, Chainmail Armor and Leggings, and Maiden Gloves. On my character I get fast roll with 56 poise if I wear the Wolf Ring.
You could use the armor finder on the character planner site. You can specify roll speed, edit the minimum and maximum defenses, remove certain clothings from the list, and force it to use certain clothings.
What about this http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=290274101423582276
It will probably take like.. 5 months for me to get that build done or even more.
I was trying to make it work with the SL120 one but all i get is Mid Roll and not Fast Roll.
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^ I think there may be a better option out there somewhere, but that outfit seems really good.
Also, Seignar had a good point with his build. You could upgrade strength instead of dexterity and use the black knight weapons. They scale with strength but require 18 dexterity.
You could also upgrade both strength and dexterity. 27 / 40 strength and 40 dexterity will allow you to use almost any weapon in the game.
http://mmdks.com/1ebn
Also, Seignar had a good point with his build. You could upgrade strength instead of dexterity and use the black knight weapons. They scale with strength but require 18 dexterity.
You could also upgrade both strength and dexterity. 27 / 40 strength and 40 dexterity will allow you to use almost any weapon in the game.
http://mmdks.com/1ebn
- Spoiler:
- SL 120 Wanderer
Vit: 40
Att: 12
End: 40
Str: 40
Dex: 40
Res: -
Int: -
Fai: -
R1: Zweihander
R2: Shotel
L1: Grass Crest Shield
L2: Ascended Flame +5
Armor:
Wanderer hood
Wanderer Coat
Wanderer Manchette
Wanderer Boots
Rings:
Havel's Ring
Wolf Ring
Spells:
Great Fireball
Great Combustion
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WandererReece wrote:^ I think there may be a better option out there somewhere, but that outfit seems really good.
Also, Seignar had a good point with his build. You could upgrade strength instead of dexterity and use the black knight weapons. They scale with strength but require 18 dexterity.
You could also upgrade both strength and dexterity. 27 / 40 strength and 40 dexterity will allow you to use almost any weapon in the game.
http://mmdks.com/1ebn
- Spoiler:
SL 120 Wanderer
Vit: 40
Att: 12
End: 40
Str: 40
Dex: 40
Res: -
Int: -
Fai: -
R1: Zweihander
R2: Shotel
L1: Grass Crest Shield
L2: Ascended Flame +5
Armor:
Wanderer hood
Wanderer Coat
Wanderer Manchette
Wanderer Boots
Rings:
Havel's Ring
Wolf Ring
Spells:
Great Fireball
Great Combustion
I see.
Is there a way to use a faster sword? I'm really like to be able to attack fast while being able to deal high damage.
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^ The fastest weapons are dexterity weapons. That's what started the "dexterity increases swing speed" rumor, and the rumor isn't true by the way. I'm not sure exactly which weapon is the fastest. It might be the Painting Guardian Sword or one of the daggers. Someone told me the weapon's weight affects its swing speed. Therefore the lighter the weapon is, the faster it swings. I don't know how true that is.
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One tip I always go by, have a homeward bone in your quick select and check it every now and then if its greyed out chances are you'll be invaded so run to the nearest bonfire that way if you get killed you don't have too far to collect the lost souls and humanity.
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WandererReece wrote:^ The fastest weapons are dexterity weapons. That's what started the "dexterity increases swing speed" rumor, and the rumor isn't true by the way. I'm not sure exactly which weapon is the fastest. It might be the Painting Guardian Sword or one of the daggers. Someone told me the weapon's weight affects its swing speed. Therefore the lighter the weapon is, the faster it swings. I don't know how true that is.
I see, i've always liked to evade and attack but since my strength is kind a high i will upgrade strength instead of dex as Seignar said.
What about this http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=315967102395084597
I know it looks bad but you know.. my first character on the game i will probably do something better for the second one, i just want to complete the game for the first time, learn all the stuff and then for the second gameplay make it better or run another character and build it properly.
Edit: I will probably lower the Faith and i won't use the Sunlight nor the Lightning Spear.
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^ The Murakumo is a dexterity weapon. If you're going to focus on strength, then you'll want to choose something else.
If you're 2 handing your weapon, then you'll probably want the grass crest shield. It gives stamina regeneration, so it'll be useful even on your back.
Strength characters usually need more stamina then dexterity characters, so you'll want at least 40 endurance.
78 poise is great, but you'll most likely need ony 40, especially if you fast roll.
http://mmdks.com/1ewm This is a strength build that I would suggest. The reduced poise shouldn't be a problem most of the time. The 40 strength allows you to one hand the weapon.
I put Black Knight Sword on here, but there are a lot more good options. You'll want something that has at least a B on strength.
If you're 2 handing your weapon, then you'll probably want the grass crest shield. It gives stamina regeneration, so it'll be useful even on your back.
Strength characters usually need more stamina then dexterity characters, so you'll want at least 40 endurance.
78 poise is great, but you'll most likely need ony 40, especially if you fast roll.
http://mmdks.com/1ewm This is a strength build that I would suggest. The reduced poise shouldn't be a problem most of the time. The 40 strength allows you to one hand the weapon.
I put Black Knight Sword on here, but there are a lot more good options. You'll want something that has at least a B on strength.
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The Mura's stats may be dex-based, but it swings like a Str weapon (and requires 28 Str as well).
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If you're packing in Strength, Dex and Faith, might be worthwhile taking a weapon that scales in both Strength and Dex and making it Divine. You wanted speed, so a Falchion might not be too bad - a lot of early game weapons are very powerful late on.
Also, there's Astora's Straight Sword. It's in the Valley of the Drakes, in front of the zombie dragon. Very useful weapon and scales in all three of those stats, though requires twinkling titanite.
Also, there's Astora's Straight Sword. It's in the Valley of the Drakes, in front of the zombie dragon. Very useful weapon and scales in all three of those stats, though requires twinkling titanite.
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Re: New guy need help.
^ He said he's getting rid of faith and focusing on strength. Also Divine wouldn't be good for a str / fai or dex / fai build. A normal +15 with SLB or DMB or just an unbuffed normal + 15 would be better.
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