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    The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:59 pm

    I made this build in mugen to be for soley using the Dark Sword, but there have been some conflicting views about the Dark Sword. What would your opinions on this build be, and is the Dark Sword good?
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    I should probably mentioned i tried out the Dark Sword before, and i liked it's moveset but i only tried it for an hour or so before i decided to focus a build around it, hell it nearly made me make a DarkWraith CosPlay silly


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by RANT on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:02 pm

    Its really good, quality build is better though, 27/40.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by Dibsville on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:03 pm

    With a buff or on an elemental path, a Darksword can wreck havoc. The R2 is weird in that the moveset for it is on a Straight Sword, not a Curved Sword. It actually does decent damage and, with a buff, is easily one of the 'better' straight swords IMO.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:04 pm

    I was thinking about doing 27/40, but it actually only adds 37 AR according to mugen, is it worth 11 extra points?


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:05 pm

    Dibsville wrote:With a buff or on an elemental path, a Darksword can wreck havoc. The R2 is weird in that the moveset for it is on a Straight Sword, not a Curved Sword. It actually does decent damage and, with a buff, is easily one of the 'better' straight swords IMO.
    I can easily agree without even trying it with a buff that it will cause havoc, but i try to stray from using buffs such as DMB, SLB or CMW. If i ever need extra damage, i'll just use my PW but thanks for the suggestions.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by RANT on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:06 pm

    Yes.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by Dibsville on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:09 pm

    FattyOfDoom wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:With a buff or on an elemental path, a Darksword can wreck havoc. The R2 is weird in that the moveset for it is on a Straight Sword, not a Curved Sword. It actually does decent damage and, with a buff, is easily one of the 'better' straight swords IMO.
    I can easily agree without even trying it with a buff that it will cause havoc, but i try to stray from using buffs such as DMB, SLB or CMW. If i ever need extra damage, i'll just use my PW but thanks for the suggestions.
    Using a Gold Pine Resin on it from time to time wouldn't hurt, the extra Lightning damage makes the sword extremely powerful.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:14 pm

    Dibsville wrote:
    FattyOfDoom wrote:
    Dibsville wrote:With a buff or on an elemental path, a Darksword can wreck havoc. The R2 is weird in that the moveset for it is on a Straight Sword, not a Curved Sword. It actually does decent damage and, with a buff, is easily one of the 'better' straight swords IMO.
    I can easily agree without even trying it with a buff that it will cause havoc, but i try to stray from using buffs such as DMB, SLB or CMW. If i ever need extra damage, i'll just use my PW but thanks for the suggestions.
    Using a Gold Pine Resin on it from time to time wouldn't hurt, the extra Lightning damage makes the sword extremely powerful.
    Now those buffs i will use haha, the extra like 50AR doesn't decrease the battle to 3 hits, but definetly does help. I think i will use it.
    RantFromRant wrote:Yes
    Can you recommend where i will take the 11 points?


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by RANT on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:23 pm

    http://mmdks.com/1efu mine looks like that


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:25 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:http://mmdks.com/1efu mine looks like that
    Looks really good, but shouldn't you take off the CoD since i don't have any pyros.... silly


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by LunarFog on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:29 pm

    It might just be me, but I'm always inclined to think that when I hear something like "A _______ weapon build" it's going to focus on achieving the max power for that build, followed by stamina and HP and NOTHING else unless it directly supports or enhances the weapon of the build.

    http://mmdks.com/1eg3 Is what I would think you would go for.

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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by RANT on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:33 pm

    FattyOfDoom wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:http://mmdks.com/1efu mine looks like that
    Looks really good, but shouldn't you take off the CoD since i don't have any pyros.... silly

    Just switched the stats on your build since I'm in my phone and I'm too lazy to switch to my real set up lol


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:34 pm

    LunarFog wrote:It might just be me, but I'm always inclined to think that when I hear something like "A _______ weapon build" it's going to focus on achieving the max power for that build, followed by stamina and HP and NOTHING else unless it directly supports or enhances the weapon of the build.

    http://mmdks.com/1eg3 Is what I would think you would go for.
    That one is good too Lunar, i might use yours or Rants


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by LunarFog on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:37 pm

    FattyOfDoom wrote:
    LunarFog wrote:It might just be me, but I'm always inclined to think that when I hear something like "A _______ weapon build" it's going to focus on achieving the max power for that build, followed by stamina and HP and NOTHING else unless it directly supports or enhances the weapon of the build.

    http://mmdks.com/1eg3 Is what I would think you would go for.
    That one is good too Lunar, i might use yours or Rants
    but- butbutbut- WAIT LET ME MAKE A REAL ONE

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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:39 pm

    LunarFog wrote:
    FattyOfDoom wrote:
    LunarFog wrote:It might just be me, but I'm always inclined to think that when I hear something like "A _______ weapon build" it's going to focus on achieving the max power for that build, followed by stamina and HP and NOTHING else unless it directly supports or enhances the weapon of the build.

    http://mmdks.com/1eg3 Is what I would think you would go for.
    That one is good too Lunar, i might use yours or Rants
    but- butbutbut- WAIT LET ME MAKE A REAL ONE
    Haha, challenge accepted


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by RANT on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:39 pm

    Imo 40 str is a waste of points since you can just two hand your weapon amd have the same bit that's just me. Also you don't need pyro since you can just switch to a shotel if you come up against a turtle.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by LunarFog on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:43 pm

    http://mmdks.com/1egb

    Ok. This one is my real one. Only downside is if you want to have a buff of some sort.

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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by LunarFog on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:46 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:Imo 40 str is a waste of points since you can just two hand your weapon amd have the same bit that's just me. Also you don't need pyro since you can just switch to a shotel if you come up against a turtle.
    the 40 strength isn't for meeting the minimum requirements. It's for having the maximum damage.

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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:55 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:Imo 40 str is a waste of points since you can just two hand your weapon amd have the same bit that's just me. Also you don't need pyro since you can just switch to a shotel if you come up against a turtle.
    The pyro is to vary up my playstyle and is to use PW as a way to increase my damage output.
    LunarFog wrote:Ok. This one is my real one. Only downside is if you want to have a buff of some sort
    It seems good but i don't need maximum damage haha, i took in both of your points and i feel this one is the one that will best suit me
    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=128390307657767063


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:56 pm

    The 28str and 30dex actually does more damage than 16 and 40 so that's why i placed the points like that.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:33 pm

    It's stylish as f***, but its range really makes it not nearly as good as other options. I like the build though.
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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by lextune on Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:30 pm

    Had a Darkwraith cosplay build, (seems like ages ago), that looked like this:

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    ....You can make some interesting dead angles and wake up attacks with the Dark Sword's funny R2's.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by EeAyEss on Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:47 pm

    I just love the darksword. It looks so awesome. It's r2's are good primarily for wake-ups, and for messing with people. Go Darksword!

    My first dedicated darkwraith build looked a little like this:

    http://mmdks.com/1elk

    I scrapped it for a quality build in the making.


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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by Sneezer on Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:24 pm

    This just so happens to be the build I'm currently working on. Not a quality build, but my themed build, and it incorporates the Darksword.

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    Re: The Dark Sword

    Post by Rifter7 on Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:24 pm

    it's a fun weapon and the first weapon i ever pvp'd with in dark souls...

    but there's definitely better choices. if you don't care, use it anyways; it's still pretty good.


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