reim0027 wrote:First off, this is just a game. Making comparisons to serious real life issues really isn't relevant.
Ditto.
reim0027 wrote:First off, this is just a game. Making comparisons to serious real life issues really isn't relevant.
I got to disagree with you their Reim. As long *** it doesn't affect MY game you can mod your save all you want but if they then invade you with a character with modded health then i can agree with your point. To summarize my point, don't you agree that if they just mod themselves items for PvP, then as long as you don't increase any of your own characters abilities it would be ok?reim0027 wrote:First off, this is just a game. Making comparisons to serious real life issues really isn't relevant. Not counting the obvious griefing possibilities, I see a couple sides to this. Practical and moral.
Practical: Objective measure. It is the same end result. So, if I take a shortcut to get to the exact same end, that's all right. This is assuming everything about the build is fair (no 99 divine blessings, modded health, etc).
Moral: Subjective measurer. There is a "moral" way to play this game. You should play it proper and by how it is designed.
The best argument, IMO, for the Moral side is the coop argument. When you make a build from the ground up, you are more likely to summon help, or to offer help to get humanity or souls. If you glitch your toon, this is less likely to happen. Therefore, you are decreasing the online co-op opportunities.
FattyOfDoom wrote:To summarize my point, don't you agree that if they just mod themselves items for PvP, then as long as you don't increase any of your own characters abilities it would be ok?
While that is true, i don't mind as long as it helps their pvp character. (Unless it's like a SL1 with a chaos hand axe)WandererReece wrote:FattyOfDoom wrote:To summarize my point, don't you agree that if they just mod themselves items for PvP, then as long as you don't increase any of your own characters abilities it would be ok?
That depends on what it is and what they do with it.
If they give themselves something that isn't in the game, then no.
If they give themselves Lightning +5 and Chaos +5 weapons on a starting level character in Burg, Parish, or Depths, then no.
Other stuff is probably fine, but it's just easier to not make exceptions.
FattyOfDoom wrote:While that is true, i don't mind as long as it helps their pvp character. (Unless it's like a SL1 with a chaos hand axe)
reim0027 wrote:......... By doing the modding, you are less likely to do coop. Since you have an insta-build, you are less likely to summon others than if you were making a build from scratch. This does negatively affect others.
Hugh_G_Johnson wrote:Is no one concerned about taking shortcuts in terms of gaining pvp experience?
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