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    Post by Oroboro on Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:42 pm

    I decided to make a thread dedicated to all of the builds I create, since I am obsessed with creating them. These will all stop at SL125 for PvP purposes. Most of these builds prioritize diversity, so you can have a huge variety of weapons to use with each.
    I have three sections for my builds now, builds that don't use buffs, builds that use buffs (Darkmoon Blade/Sunlight Blade/Crystal Magic Weapon), and builds that are specialized around a specific purpose.
    For most of the builds I don't give equipment suggestions because you can really use whatever equipment you want. Also because it is dependent on which weapons you use so if you switch weapons you have to switch equipment as well. Just be sure to get enough poise to tank some hits with the poise breaks: 31/53/76.
    *UPDATED FOR 1.06*

    NON-BUFF BUILDS

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    ~STR~
    Description: A standard strength build that focuses on having lots of endurance for large poise sets to make up for the weight of the heavy weapons. Grabs 18 dexterity for the black knight weapons.
    Starting Class: Warrior / Bandit / Hunter
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 10
    END: 60
    STR: 40
    DEX: 18
    -Weapons
    Demon Great Machete 15 / Dragon Greatsword 5 / Black Knight Greatsword 5 / Demon's Greataxe 15 / Dragon King Greataxe 5 / Black Knight Greataxe 5 / Demon's Great Hammer 15 / Smough's Hammer 5 / Dragon Tooth 5
    -Spells
    Black Flame



    ~DEX~
    Description: Standard dexterity build. I took 19 attunement for 5 extra pyromancies and went 45 dexterity for faster castings.
    Starting Class: Pyromancer
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 16
    END: 51
    STR: 16
    DEX: 45
    -Weapons
    Dagger 15 / Parrying Dagger 15 / Bandit's Knife 15 / Priscilla's Dagger 5 / Balder Side Sword 15 / Scimitar 15 / Falchion 15 / Painting Guardian Sword 15 / Quelaag's Furysword 5 / Uchigatana 15 / Iaito 15 / Mail Breaker 15 / Rapier 15 / Estoc 15 / Ricard's Rapier 15 / Gargoyle Tail Axe 15 / Spear 15 / Winged Spear 15 / Partizan 15 / Pike 15 / Scythe 15 / Great Scythe 15 / Whip 15 / Notched Whip 15 / Claw 15 / Darkmoon Bow 15 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5
    -Spells
    Black Flame / Great Fireball / Fire Tempest / Fire Surge


    ~INT~
    Description: Standard intellect build. Use Logan's Catalyst for more casts and use Tin Crystallization for more damage.
    Starting Class: Wanderer / Pyromancer
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    STR: 16
    DEX: 16
    INT: 50
    -Weapons
    Moonlight Greatsword 5 /Channeler's Trident 5 / Moonlight Butterfly Horn 5 / Velka's Rapier 5 / titanite Catch Pole 5 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5 / Logan's Catalyst / Tin Crystallization Catalyst
    -Spells
    Homing Crystal Soulmass / Crystal Soul Spear / Pursuers / Dark Bead / Chameleon / Black Flame


    ~Faith~

    Description: This build takes advantage of the Obsidian Greatsword's low stat requirements(20 str and 16 dex), divine weapons, and the Cresent Axe. Using the Crown of Dusk/Ring of the Sun's Firstborn for max damage Wrath of the Gods can be deadly. We grab 50 faith for max damage DMB for insane damage on top of the 480 pure physical AR the Obsidian Greatsword already has. This build is categorized under non-buff builds because you can use divine weapons effectively as well as the Obsidian Greatsword buffed.
    Starting Class: Bandit / Cleric
    -STATS-
    VIT: 46
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    STR: 20
    DEX: 16
    FAI: 50
    -Weapons
    Obsidian Greatsword 5 / Crescent Axe 15 / Anything enchanted with divine
    -Spells
    Darkmoon Blade / Sunlight Blade / Wrath of the Gods / Emit Force / Great Heal / Great Magic Barrier / Tranquil Walk of Peace / Black Flame


    ~Quality~
    Description: This build takes both STR and DEX to use some weapons that use both scaling efficiently. This build is probably the most versatile build just because you can literally use any weapon with full damage aside from 1h str weapons. Absolute best build for beginners but it's also great with veterans as well.
    Starting Class: Warrior / Bandit / Hunter
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 10
    END: 50
    STR: 28
    DEX: 40
    -Weapons
    Claymore 15 / Stone Greatsword 5 / Great Lord Greatsword 5 / Greatsword 15 / Zweihander 15 / Murakumo 15 / Washing Pole 15 / Pike 15 / Demon's Spear 5 / Halberd 15 / Lucerne 15 / Gargoyle's Halberd 15 / Giant's Halberd 5 / titanite Catch Pole 5 / Black Knight Halberd 5 / Demon Great Machete 15 / Dragonslayer Greatbow 5
    -Spells
    Black Flame


    ~VIT~
    Description: This build uses a giant range of elemental weapons that don't require any points for their max damages, so you can put all of your points into vitality and endurance. Please note that elemental weapons have been nerfed in the recent 1.06 patch. With pyromancies not scaling with anything they will be a huge source of your damage so that's why I take the 16 attunement for 4 slots. Power Within is very strong with this build as well because even though it's percentage based you will have more health throughout the fight so you will be able to take more hits. This build is still pretty solid if you can deal with the low damage output because your health is insane. With the Mask of the Mother and the Ring of Favor and Divine Protection you can get up to 2444 HP with this build.
    Starting Class: Pyromancer
    -STATS-
    VIT: 92
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    STR: 16
    DEX: 14
    -Weapons
    Anything enchanted with 5 lightning/ 10 fire/ 5 chaos / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5
    -Spells
    Power Within / Black Flame


    BUFF BUILDS

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    ~STR FAI~
    Description: A strength/faith hybrid that utilizes DMB 3 to almost full potential. Does insane amounts of damage by 2h STR weapons with the DMB buff.
    Starting Class: Cleric
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    STR: 27
    FAI: 47
    -Weapons
    Man-serpent Greatsword 15 / Demon Great Machete 15 / Butcher Knife 15 / Demon's Greataxe 15 / Dragon King Greataxe 5 / Club 15 / Reinforced Club 15 / Mace 15 / Morning Star 15 / Pickaxe 15 / Blacksmith Hammer 15 / Great Club 15 / Dragon Tooth 5 / Large Club 15 / Dragon Bone Fist 5 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5 / Canvas Talisman
    -2h Only Weapons
    Man-serpent Greatsword 15 / Demon Great Machete 15 / Butcher Knife 15 / Club 15 / Mace 15 / Pickaxe 15 / Great Club 15 / Dragon Tooth 5 / Large Club 15
    -Spells
    Darkmoon Blade / Sunlight Blade / Wrath of the Gods / Black Flame


    ~DEX FAI~
    Description: The original Brandon505/Oroboro build. Made back when Dark Souls was brand spankin new. Probably the reason you are here. This build is probably the most deadly of all my builds in my opinion and many people consider this build to be overpowered/cheating, but they can deal. This build grabs 50 VIT for the best stat returns for health and 16 attunement for 4 slots. I usually rock DMB 3, SLB, and 2 WoG's with this build. You can use 3 WoG's if you are dueling and only buffing once. I use the Falchion 15 with this build but it is deadly with any dexterity weapon. The reason the falchion is so strong is because it counters any backstabs attempts and you cannot be chain-backstabed if you are 2h your falchion while you get backstabbed. You can usually stunlock most players in 2-3 swings which come out extremely fast and do insane amounts of damage. This build was literally made to kill multiple players but you can use it in duels as well and dominate. Be careful of your counters when using this build with the falchion: spears, parries, and other falchions. Good luck and have fun with this build, I know I have. *Note: If you want to use buffed katanas 1h moveset, be sure to add in 16 STR and lower ATT/END.
    Starting Class: Bandit / Cleric
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    DEX: 40
    FAI: 30
    -Weapons
    Dagger 15 / Parrying Dagger 15 / Bandit's Knife 15 / Priscilla's Dagger 5 / Balder Side Sword 15 / Scimitar 15 / Falchion 15 / Painting Guardian Sword 15 / Quelaag's Furysword 5 / Uchigatana 15 / Iaito 15 / Mail Breaker 15 / Rapier 15 / Estoc 15 / Ricard's Rapier 15 / Gargoyle Tail Axe 15 / Spear 15 / Winged Spear 15 / Partizan 15 / Pike 15 / Scythe 15 / Great Scythe 15 / Whip 15 / Notched Whip 15 / Claw 15 / Darkmoon Bow 15 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5 / Canvas Talisman
    -Spells
    Darkmoon Blade / Sunlight Blade / Wrath of the Gods / Black Flame


    ~DEX INT~
    Description: This build is the int version of the dex/faith hybrid build above. You get a little less powerful of a buff but you gain access to Dark Magic and many other spells. Definitely a really amazing build.
    Starting Class: Wanderer
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    STR: 10
    DEX: 40
    INT: 32
    -Weapons
    Dagger 15 / Parrying Dagger 15 / Bandit's Knife 15 / Priscilla's Dagger 5 / Balder Side Sword 15 / Scimitar 15 / Falchion 15 / Painting Guardian Sword 15 / Quelaag's Furysword 5 / Uchigatana 15 / Iaito 15 / Mail Breaker 15 / Rapier 15 / Estoc 15 / Ricard's Rapier 15 / Gargoyle Tail Axe 15 / Spear 15 / Winged Spear 15 / Partizan 15 / Pike 15 / Scythe 15 / Great Scythe 15 / Whip 15 / Notched Whip 15 / Claw 15 / Darkmoon Bow 15 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5 / Izalith Catalyst / Sorcerer's Catalyst Tin Crystalization Catalyst
    -Spells
    Crystal Magic Weapon / Dark Bead / Pursuers / Black Flame


    ~Quality FAI~
    Description: A quality build that uses DMB. This build can buff some of the more unique weapons making them extremely dangerous. My personal favorites with this build are the Washing Pole, Pike, Zweihander, and Murakumo.
    Starting Class: Warrior / Bandit / Hunter
    -STATS-
    VIT: 34
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    STR: 28
    DEX: 40
    FAI: 30
    -Weapons
    Claymore 15 / Stone Greatsword 5 / Great Lord Greatsword 5 / Greatsword 15 / Zweihander 15 / Murakumo 15 / Washing Pole 15 / Pike 15 / Demon's Spear 5 / Halberd 15 / Lucerne 15 / Gargoyle's Halberd 15 / Giant's Halberd 5 / titanite Catch Pole 5 / Black Knight Halberd 5 / Demon Great Machete 15 / Dragonslayer Greatbow 5 / Canvas Talisman
    -Spells
    Black Flame / Wrath of the Gods / Darkmoon Blade / Sunlight Blade


    SPECIALIZED BUILDS

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    ~Grant~
    Description: A build based around the Grant. Grant is one of the strongest hitting non-buffed scaling weapons in the game and you can achieve that with this build. It's extremely powerful in the right hands.
    Starting Class: Cleric
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 16
    END: 40
    STR: 34
    FAI: 40
    -Weapons
    Grant 5 / Darkmoon Talisman
    -Spells
    Wrath of the Gods / Black Flame


    ~Dragonslayer Spear~
    Description: This build uses the Dragonslayer Spear and sacrifices a small amount of damage for max scaling VIT. The Dragonslayer Spear has one of the longest ranges in the game and is also one of the hardest hitting, making it one of the best spears.
    Starting Class: Bandit
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    ATT: 10
    END: 40
    STR: 24
    DEX: 40
    FAI: 24
    -Weapons
    Dragonslayer Spear 5
    -Spells
    Black Flame / Replenishment


    ~Abyss Greatsword~
    Description: The seriously awesome Artorias build. The Abyss Greatsword does amazing damage with this build, giving it a whomping 516 pure physical AR with the 1h moveset and 564 with the 2h.
    Starting Class: Warrior / Bandit
    -STATS-
    VIT: 45
    END: 40
    STR: 27
    DEX: 40
    INT: 18
    FAI: 18
    -Weapons
    Abyss Greatsword 5 / Dark Hand


    ~Obsidian Greatsword~
    Description: This build is similar to the Faith build listed in that it uses the Obsidian Greatsword but this is a VIT gouged version of it which can get to ridiculous amounts of vitality. I actually min-maxed the **** out of this build and it gets kind of ridiculous. This is one of the only builds I will recommend you equipment, although again you can use whatever you'd like. 61 poise and 2424 HP with the full 480 physical AR of the obsidian greatsword is just insane. This build is definitely worth a slot.
    Starting Class: Warrior / Bandit
    -STATS-
    VIT: 90
    END: 44
    STR: 20
    DEX: 16
    -Weapons
    Obsidian Greatsword 5 / Grass Crest Shield 15
    -Equipment
    Mask of the Mother / Havel's Armor / Iron Bracelet / Hollow Soldier Waistcloth / Havel's Ring / Ring of Favor and Divine Protection


    ~Murakumo/Washing Pole~
    Description: This build is based around 2 handing the Murakumo with maximum damage scaling. Because of how heavy the Murakumo is we have to grab some endurance to get enough armor for poise. You can also use the Washing Pole with this build.
    Starting Class: Warrior / Bandit
    -STATS-
    VIT: 50
    END: 60
    STR: 20
    DEX: 40
    -Weapons
    Murakumo 15 / Grass Crest Shield 15 / Washing Pole 15


    ~Seppuku~
    Description: This build is probably the most complex build in Dark Souls. I know that is a bold statement, but here's how it works. First of all, you need to be cursed for this build to work. After you are cursed you need to have the Dusk Crown Ring equipped and the Red Tearstone Ring equipped. Then you need some Dung Pies and Blooming Purple Moss Clumps. Throw your dung pies to toxic yourself then wait until you get red tearstone range and heal it immediately with the moss clump. Now because you are cursed the only way you can invade is through the forest covenant. Join the forest covenant and get the Cat Covenant Ring. Then use the dung pie trick to get low hp for red tearstone range and you will be able to invade with low hp. Just swap out the red tearstone ring for the cat covenant ring and switch back when you get an invasion. Now use power within and buff any weapons you have equipped before switching to your Sanctus. If done correctly, your hp should be mostly stable enough for you to survive the power within and still have red tearstone active at all times. The reason this build works is because of the amount of low hp you can get from low VIT, being cursed, and the dusk crown ring. It gives you a low enough amount of total hp so that the 2hp per 2 seconds from the Sanctus shield can counteract the 1% of your total hp per second from power within.
    With this build you will have a 300 damage buff from Sunlight Blade, ALL damage increased by 110% from red tearstone ring and power within (50% 40% summative), and stamina regeneration from Power Within. You can use almost every single weapon in the game with maximum damage, although I recommend the Pike and WoG's to be safe. You will die in one hit to ANYTHING. You will also do insane amounts of damage. This build is not for the light-hearted. You have been warned.
    Starting Class: Cleric
    -STATS-
    VIT: 11
    ATT: 19
    END: 40
    STR: 28
    DEX: 40
    FAI: 50
    -Weapons
    Pike 15 / Sanctus 15 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5 / Darkmoon Talisman
    -Spells
    Power Within / Wrath of the Gods
    -Equipment
    Dusk Crown Ring / Red Tearstone Ring / Cat Covenant Ring


    ~Pure Pyromancer~
    Description: Pure pyro that can also use dex weapons to full effectiveness. Does TONS OF DAMAGE with pyromancies and they have faster casting thanks to 45 dex. I grab 28 attunement for 7 slots for pyromancies so you never run out.
    Starting Class: Wanderer
    -STATS-
    VIT: 49
    ATT: 28
    END: 40
    DEX: 45
    -Weapons
    Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5 / Dark Hand
    -Spells
    Great Combustion / Great Fireball / Fire Tempest / Fire Surge
    -Equipment
    Crown of Dusk / Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring / Darkwood Grain Ring


    ~Wrath of the Gods~
    Description: 1k damage WoGs ggnore
    Starting Class: Cleric
    -STATS-
    VIT: 51
    ATT: 23
    END: 40
    DEX: 12
    FAI: 50
    -Weapons
    Chaos Rapier 5 / Grass Crest Shield 15 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5
    -Spells
    Wrath of the Gods / Power Within
    -Equipment
    Crown of Dusk / Giants Armor / Antiquated Gloves / Hollow Soldier Waistcloth / Ring of the Sun's Firstborn / Ring of Favor and Divine Protection


    ~Critical~
    Description: This build is mean. Has some of the most damaging backstabs in the game with 50 VIT and 56 poise to tank through a running r1 greatsword hit. You can use power within to boost your backstab damage even more if you want to ensure the kill or if you think you're confident enough to get the backstab before PW kills you.
    Starting Class: Bandit
    -STATS-
    VIT: 55
    ATT: 10
    END: 64
    STR: 40
    -Weapons
    Great Club 15 / Grass Crest Shield 15 / Pyromancy Flame (Strong) 5
    -Spells
    Power Within / Black Flame
    -Equipment
    Mask of the Mother / Havel's Armor / Eastern Gauntlets / Hollow Soldier Waistcloth / Havel's Ring / Hornet Ring
    *DECEPTION VERSION*
    Description: This build relies on people seeing you with the gold hemmed and drake sword and underestimating you. What you do is basically block until you get a setup parry, then when you finally do pull out the great club for an insane damage riposte. It's more efficient for this build to use fap ring instead of havel's because the points from END gives us more hp than points in VIT would, not to mention it gives us a small stamina boost as well. We need to pick between the rings because one of them will have to be the hornet ring. You are going to have to rock 0 poise so you have to be extremely careful and land your parry.
    -Weapons
    Drake Sword 5 / Great Club 15 / Grass Crest Shield 15
    -Equipment
    Gold-Hemmed Set / Ring of Favor and Divine Protection / Hornet Ring


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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:05 pm

    Very nice understanding of diminishing returns breakpoints. They look pretty standard so this is a good guide for someone who is new to PvP build making. You might want to put this http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls after or before each description as example builds. +1


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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by Oroboro on Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:23 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Very nice understanding of diminishing returns breakpoints. They look pretty standard so this is a good guide for someone who is new to PvP build making. You might want to put this http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls after or before each description as example builds. +1

    Yeah they are meant to be standard builds for people to follow if they want good competitive builds with lots of variety. I actually had this exact same post on another forums and it was popular on there, so hopefully you guys like it.


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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by Jodecho on Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:51 pm

    to go along with the guide theme, i think you should put your builds in spoiler boxes for quicker access / not so much scrolling. +1 for helping out new players. i have a buddy that just started DkS a month or so ago and something came up to where i couldnt help him out much at all and guides like yours are what kept him going till i was able to get him on his feet, so to speak.
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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by Oroboro on Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:55 pm

    Jodecho wrote:to go along with the guide theme, i think you should put your builds in spoiler boxes for quicker access / not so much scrolling. +1 for helping out new players. i have a buddy that just started DkS a month or so ago and something came up to where i couldnt help him out much at all and guides like yours are what kept him going till i was able to get him on his feet, so to speak.

    Good idea. I'll fix up the post a bit.


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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by Dusk Soul on Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:00 pm

    I don't have the DLC yet, what weapon would you suggest I use for the Abyss Greatsword build meanwhile?
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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by Oroboro on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:47 pm

    Dusk Soul wrote:I don't have the DLC yet, what weapon would you suggest I use for the Abyss Greatsword build meanwhile?

    You can literally use almost any weapon in the game with max scaling. I would use the falchion +15 until I got it personally but it's whatever you want really with 27 str and 40 dex you can't go wrong.


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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by Ashran on Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:14 pm

    Hey Oroboro! just saw a guy using a build very similar to your falchion build. I asked him that i almost tought it was you!
    He pm'd me saying that he was a fan of your videos too so he picked up your outfit for killing gankers xD

    Gotta love the way you inspire players.

    And good post.


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    Re: Oroboro's SL 125 PvP Builds

    Post by Dusk Soul on Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:03 pm

    I started the character yesterday and I decided to use a Claymore (mostly to get used to greatsword moveset since prior to this I've only used curved swords and spears).

    I was thinking on using the Cursed Artorias Greasword, from what I've seen it is similar to the Abyss Greatsword.
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    Post by Oroboro on Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:58 pm

    Ashran wrote:Hey Oroboro! just saw a guy using a build very similar to your falchion build. I asked him that i almost tought it was you!
    He pm'd me saying that he was a fan of your videos too so he picked up your outfit for killing gankers xD

    Gotta love the way you inspire players.

    And good post.

    Thanks a lot man, I really find it awesome that people are finally trying out the falchion.

    Dusk Soul wrote:I started the character yesterday and I decided to use a Claymore (mostly to get used to greatsword moveset since prior to this I've only used curved swords and spears).

    I was thinking on using the Cursed Artorias Greasword, from what I've seen it is similar to the Abyss Greatsword.

    You can use the Cursed Artorias Greatsword if you really want, but the Abyss Greatsword has a bit higher AR. If you like the R2's better then absoutely go for it.


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