Mages: Why the hate?

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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by fujiphoenix on Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:05 pm

    People keep saying magic is cheap because if there is lag its impossible to dodge... If you experience lag enough that all offensive magic is cheap and any body using it is cheap, then you have a bigger problem, and it's the potato you use for a internet connection. I fight magic users just like everybody else, and I don't care if I get OHKO'd. I just learn to be more careful the next time. And maybe 1 in 20 casters I fight come with awful lag, so what? It's a VERY small minority and I don't care if I loose once in a while. It is after all a game, and games are meant to be won and lost.
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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:47 pm

    Never proved it but I think hidden body lags the hell out of magic particularly pursuers. Then again it might've been just 2 laggy random encounters.


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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by NPCWhiteMage on Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:49 pm

    Shindori wrote:
    Animaaal wrote:
    Kerberos-013 wrote:Love Mages. GMB plus my armor completely neutralizes them. Most don't realize what is happening and just spam away. When one finally gets a kill on me I don't care. Its not easy for them, I usually carry 2-4 casts of GMB.

    GMB IS OP!!! lol
    EVERYTHING IS OP FOR YOU PEOPLE.

    If I could vote up anymore today, I would vote for this so hard it would explode.


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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by psychichobo on Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:09 pm

    Well, thing is, some people have lag and can't do a lot about it, and magic is far less forgiving than Melee for lag. The sheer speed of Dark Bead too doesn't bloody help. I've fought a fair few mages and it's always the ones using traditional magic that I have the closest fights against, but Dark Magic's glass cannon nature is genuinely difficult, especially if it comes down to the literal case of them seeing you before you see them.
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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by Sentiel on Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:05 am

    AnCapaillMor wrote:Never proved it but I think hidden body lags the hell out of magic particularly pursuers. Then again it might've been just 2 laggy random encounters.
    Hidden Body will completely stop Pursuers and Soulmass spells from activating on you for the duration of the buff.
    Note that Ring of Fog has similar, but not identical effect. The spells will still activate on you, but you have to be closer than usual for them to do so.

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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:51 am

    Sentiel wrote:
    AnCapaillMor wrote:Never proved it but I think hidden body lags the hell out of magic particularly pursuers. Then again it might've been just 2 laggy random encounters.
    Hidden Body will completely stop Pursuers and Soulmass spells from activating on you for the duration of the buff.
    Note that Ring of Fog has similar, but not identical effect. The spells will still activate on you, but you have to be closer than usual for them to do so.

    Sorry shoulda have said the caster caster has hidden body.

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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by FullSpe3D on Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:51 am

    LunarFog wrote:a pure caster has 2 BUFFS they can stack and use at any time with no detrimental effects(Crown of Dusk + Bellowing Dragoncrest ring/Ring of Sun's firstborn)

    No detrimental effects? The dusk crown reduces your magic defense by like 20% to 30%. This doesn't just apply to spells, it's all sources of magic damage including the MLGS.


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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by Vore Techz on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:08 am

    If you need to ask this question you are a nub.


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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by Animaaal on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:26 am

    FullSpe3D wrote:
    LunarFog wrote:a pure caster has 2 BUFFS they can stack and use at any time with no detrimental effects(Crown of Dusk + Bellowing Dragoncrest ring/Ring of Sun's firstborn)

    No detrimental effects? The dusk crown reduces your magic defense by like 20% to 30%. This doesn't just apply to spells, it's all sources of magic damage including the MLGS.

    This is only detrimental at certain breakpoints. It lowers your actual magic defenses, not the damage you recieve per say.

    In other words, you will not recieve an actual 20% realized increase to magic damage from your opponents.

    A lot of people say 250, 300, and maybe even 400 are defensive breakpoints. If the CoD takes your magic defenses from 320 to 256, you might not see as big of a rise in incoming magic damage from an opponent.

    This is why the CoD is op'd. Its the new MoM.
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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by Rynn on Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:12 am

    Fine. Crown of the Dark Sun.
    10%, no detrimental effects.
    Carry on, the example now holds weight silly

    I don't think magic is OP.

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    Re: Mages: Why the hate?

    Post by Animaaal on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:00 am

    Rynn wrote:Fine. Crown of the Dark Sun.
    10%, no detrimental effects.
    Carry on, the example now holds weight silly

    cheers I don't think magic is OP cheers


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