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    Post by quench on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:58 am

    just wondering guys what is the best way to counter dark magic im darkmooning in the kiln and every time i encounter one of these guys i cant get a look in cant seem to dodge/block it .....any ideas?


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Rynn on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:00 am

    Dark Wood Grain Ring.
    It's the only real counter, it lags so *** badly that it instantly cooks you even if you roll through it. Got mooked by it every time I saw it during my streams because lol-lag. Then I equip the DWGR and all my problems vanish.
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    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:04 am

    Do you fast roll? Roll forward. It always works. Even if you mid or fat roll, if you can learn your invincibility frames dark magic is easy to dodge.

    The best way to counter it without dodging is Great Magic Barrier. Use that, and magic won't even scratch you.


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by quench on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:09 am

    tried it man just cant seem to dodge it i just give up hope now every time i see that purple **** lol


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by quench on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:11 am

    character is a dex build mate got no int or i would


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Animaaal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:54 am

    Strong Magic Shield...




    Oooooooor the DWGR like Rynn said.
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    Post by quench on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:13 pm

    possibly one of the best videos ive ever seen hilarious thanks for that haha big grin


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Animaaal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:13 pm

    quench wrote:possibly one of the best videos ive ever seen hilarious thanks for that haha big grin

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    Post by Acarnatia on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:15 pm

    Just learn to dodge it or roll through it. My pursuers are practically useless because I rarely hit with more than two.


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by quench on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:17 pm

    yep certainly looks like the way to go cheers for the help bud and again brilliant video


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:39 pm

    Hidden Body=Pursuers don't do ****.


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    Post by Animaaal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:43 pm

    I thought they activated at close proximity, like the fog ring??? Also, cant you "auto activate" by using the silver pendant as the caster?
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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:48 pm

    Hidden Body for some reason is more effective than the Fog Ring re: Pursuers. For whatever reason Pursuers doesn't go off when someone is under the spell.


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    Post by Animaaal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:01 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Hidden Body for some reason is more effective than the Fog Ring re: Pursuers. For whatever reason Pursuers doesn't go off when someone is under the spell.

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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Brigade on Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:10 pm

    If Pursuers: Roll into it.

    If Orb: Laugh

    If long range Bead: Block

    If short range Bead: Pray

    If Flame: Alt+f4
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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:40 pm

    Be careful rolling into Pursuers. A prepared person will nail you with Dark Bead as you get up. Distance is the key, and well timed rolling.


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by quench on Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:49 pm

    good to know reim thanks going to be using GMB too as i'll have 30 fai when the build is finished


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by quench on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:36 pm

    Its sorted guys great magic barrier works an absolute treat whack it on let them fire there magic then watch there bottle crash when it barely scratches you then DMB there *** to the abyss .....also finally getting the hang of this pvp buisness 7 for 7 there big grin


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by GenericUsername on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:47 pm

    Might screw up your build, but Havel's GS laughs at dark magic.

    As its been said though, rolling will work almost every time against dark bead, but pursuers are different. You should still try to run through/into them, but I have had times where I rolled into them only to have them turn on a dime and get me from behind. Also, luring them into objects may not always work, I've found that leading them into objects will cause them to give me phantom damage even if I'm not directly hit by them. Or at least that's my experience.

    Also forgot to mention, but you should be watching their hands for catalyst switching or lifting for spells.

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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Mrfragglez on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:12 pm

    Brigade wrote:If Pursuers: Roll into it.

    If Orb: Laugh

    If long range Bead: Block

    If short range Bead: Pray

    If Flame: Alt+f4


    LOl I was hit by the orb didnt block and just laughed then he short range bead me and I threw my tv down the stairs.


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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Animaaal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:13 pm

    Mrfragglez wrote:
    Brigade wrote:If Pursuers: Roll into it.

    If Orb: Laugh

    If long range Bead: Block

    If short range Bead: Pray

    If Flame: Alt+f4


    LOl I was hit by the orb didnt block and just laughed then he short range bead me and I threw my tv down the stairs.

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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Rynn on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:36 pm

    Brigade wrote:
    If Orb: Laugh
    >Cast Dark Orb
    >peg someone for 900 damage
    >Later get a "WHAT THE ***" message from them.

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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Brigade on Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:19 am

    Rynn wrote:
    Brigade wrote:
    If Orb: Laugh
    >Cast Dark Orb
    >peg someone for 900 damage
    >Later get a "WHAT THE ***" message from them.

    Manus catalyst how I love you.

    Dark Orb may turn out to be the next big thing. Nobody ever goes out of their way to avoid it, so it could be used to cause a nice bit of damage.
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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Rynn on Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:26 am

    Brigade wrote:
    Rynn wrote:
    Brigade wrote:
    If Orb: Laugh
    >Cast Dark Orb
    >peg someone for 900 damage
    >Later get a "WHAT THE ***" message from them.

    Manus catalyst how I love you.

    Dark Orb may turn out to be the next big thing. Nobody ever goes out of their way to avoid it, so it could be used to cause a nice bit of damage.
    It has a hitbox the size of a *** truck and does 120 poise damage.

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    Re: dark magic?

    Post by Animaaal on Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:40 am

    Rynn wrote:...It has a hitbox the size of a *** truck and does 120 poise damage...

    thaaaank you! big grin Bow

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