Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

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    Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by ajdaman64 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:25 am

    Dark Souls is one epic game, and I love it.

    I've heard a lot about how the dragon at ash lake is immortal, and how it cannot be killed.

    I have a theory, which is supported by the game, to destroy this dragon, and potentially change the outcome of the game, even leading to a new ending.

    Ok, I got my source(s) from the introduction cinematic, where you witness the destruction of the eternal dragons and the rise of the age of fire.

    So, to kill the dragon, I believe you have to;

    - Lightning based attacks
    "Gwyn's mighty bolts peeled apart their stone scales."

    - Fire based attacks
    "The Witches weaved great firestorms."

    - Poison based attacks
    "Nito unleashed a miasma of death and disease."

    - Magic OR Dragon weapons//Based attacks
    "And Seath the scaleless betrayed his own."

    "and the dragons were no more..."

    Watch the introduction cinematic again if you need to.

    I believe you will need the lord souls, meaning you will only be able to do this on NG+, or find an alternate method (i.e. somehow leaving the final boss battle after defeating Gywn.)

    I have not done this because I am still too early in the game.


    If anyone could try this theory and tell me if it works or not I will be grateful.


    Some side notes;

    - When attacking the dragon try to do all the attacks in order and within his life bar.

    - If the dragon is killed, the theory that the game can be completed without any lit bonfires can be put to test. Ref -http://www.preparetodie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19497&start=105


    Thank you for reading/posting on this thread. IF you wish to post your own theories go for it.
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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by lucanious on Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:47 am

    doesnt work
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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by Bloodios on Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:25 pm

    I attempted that during my no-tagging-bonfire + murdering Firekeepers run. This is a list of what I did:

    • Attacked the dragon with "Dragonslayer" weapons
    • Attacked the dragon with "Dragon" weapons
    • Cast Sunlight Spear, Fire Tempest, Gravelord Greatsword Dance, and White Dragon Breath in rapid succession.
    • Cast Sunlight Spear, Chaos Storm, Toxic Mist, and White Dragon Breath in rapid succession.
    • Cast Sunlight Spear, Fire Tempest, Chaos Storm, Toxic Mist,
      Gravelord Greatsword Dance and White Dragon Breath in rapid succession.
    • Turned full-dragon, then equipped the Channeler's Trident and did the dance.

    The result? The dragon just sat there... chilling...

    It's frustrating since there is a "Extinguish Fire" command in text dumps, and I'm trying like mad to figure out how to extinguish whatever fire it meant.

    Currently attempting another no-tagging-bonfire run with my new character (this time without reinforcing Estus Flask, pillaging corpses or feeding the Lord Souls to the Lordvessel). I'm also tempted to try murdering all the Firekeepers (aside from Anastacia) prior to obtaining the Lordvessel , which basically means that there will be no available bonfire to use except for the one in front of the Stone Dragon but... I'm not so sure... this playthrough already feels like an overly long and tiring suicide run as it is... (I feel like giving up more and more everyday...)


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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:28 pm

    Sadly it doesn't work from the testing I've done, but hey, that's the fun of the search. Getting a cool, idea and testing it out. Keep on searching man, and I hope you do eventually find out how to kill that thing. If it is killable.
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    Post by swordiris on Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:19 pm

    I honestly think the Dragon just isn't killable. Period.


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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:46 pm

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    Post by Yukon on Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:49 am

    I think the point system goes off words per post and how frequently it is visited or responded to.. or something. so... his post was rather long leading to 152 posts and also had a few hundred views.


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    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:59 am

    Check out the date. lol!


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    Post by Yukon on Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:01 am

    I'm sure that lent to it as well, lol.


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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by fireLESS on Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:59 am

    This dragon really pisses me off.


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    Post by DoughGuy on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:01 am

    Pretty sur eyou get a point per day you're a member so that helps.


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    Post by VinheimProfessor on Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:32 pm

    Has anyone tried using Priscilla's Dagger on it? Maybe the life hunter ability to cause massive bleed out could do some damage.


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    Post by Doelker on Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:50 pm

    Necro Bump!!! Lol


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    Post by Darkson on Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:19 pm

    Necro bumps are cool!


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    The College in Winterhold doesn't look down on Necromancy

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    Post by ICEFANG on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:44 pm

    I always considered Gwyn's wife to be Priscilla's mother (who may be Velka, but I never thought of that before reading it here). If this is true, and if you buffed Priscilla's Dagger with poison and fire effects at once, maybe it would damage it. Of course this isn't possible, but have you ever wondered if some glitches are intentional? (Can you buff a weapon twice with the buff glitch?)


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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by Bloodios on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:14 am

    VinheimProfessor wrote:Has anyone tried using Priscilla's Dagger on it? Maybe the life hunter ability to cause massive bleed out could do some damage.
    I mentioned in my post that I used every single "Dragon" weapon (Priscilla's Dagger included) but still... it won't die, and the worst part is, it doesn't even care.

    I'm tempted to remove all the update then start over and try the Dragon Head glitch with Black Firebomb or something and see if it works... seriously desperate here.
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    Post by Darkson on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:33 pm

    lol

    But trying to kill a dragon with fire? :roll: Hm.


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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by SlakeMoth on Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:09 pm

    Why do you want to kill it? It's an inoffensive old thing, kinda majestic in it's way and it has generosity of spirit. It let's you cut off it's tail and use it as a weapon without retaliating, unlike that murderous Hellkite on the bridge.
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    Post by Darkson on Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:19 pm

    Still we believe it's the thing that keeps the bonfire lit. So it has to die.


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    Post by Gawain on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:09 pm

    Has anyone tried killing it after Seath and his crystal are no more?


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    Post by RandelOolacile on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:56 pm

    Gawain wrote:Has anyone tried killing it after Seath and his crystal are no more?

    Curiouser and curiouser! I'm currently doing a no bonfire with fireLESS and Rynn, once I defeat Seath I'll try it big grin


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    Re: Theory - Destroying the Ash Lake Dragon? (SPOILERS)

    Post by Bloodios on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:24 am

    It's invincible, before and after I murdered Seath.

    @Darkson
    I'll try poison throwing knives then, but I seriously doubt it'll make any different *lol*. So frustrating...


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    Post by SlakeMoth on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:28 am

    I'm kind of glad no-one has found a lost world which has dinosaurs and everything because I know what would happen. Some gonzos would just have to kill them.
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    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:35 am

    SlakeMoth wrote:I'm kind of glad no-one has found a lost world which has dinosaurs and everything because I know what would happen. Some gonzos would just have to kill them.

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