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    InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Argetlam350 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:45 pm


    Well with the announcement of PS4, also came the announcement of Sucker Punch's latest game- InFAMOUS: Second Son. Now this game will take place seven years after the episodes of Cole Macgrath and the world has clearly changed. Anyone who shows any signs of being a "bio-terrorist" is immediately handed over to the Department of Unified Protection (DUP)- a government agency to ensure that there will never be a repeat of the cataclysmic events of Empire City and New Marais. Now enter our new character.
    The new character is name Delsin Rowe, a 24 year old who is absolutely convinced he's destined for greater things; though so far those greater things have eluded him. He grew up outside of Seattle, where his great, as well as accidental, calling comes crashing into his life. After rescuing occupants from a fiery bus crash, he discovers that he suddenly has the abilities to direct, manipulate, and transform into....... Smoke.
    So now Delsin, a man who has never looked to fondly on the authority, finds himself caught in the DUP dragnet- and decides he is not going quietly.
    Along the way, Delsin is going to ask questions that are not just relevant to the world of Second Son, but to the world we all live in today. A world where we are often instructed to surrender our freedoms to help improve our security. Ben Franklin once wrote "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." Is he right?



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    So one of the little details left out of the info that we know so far is that, which ending from InFAMOUS 2 is canon? The Good Ending or the Evil Ending? Now you can perhaps argue for either side but in the end one does have a fatal flaw that throws itself out of the way of being the canon. That ending, is the Evil Ending. Despite perhaps seeming at first as the more logical ending the biggest problem with this ending is-THE PLAGUE. The Plague was something that was caused in InFAMOUS after Cole activated the Ray Sphere. It quickly spread through out the country and even perhaps the entire world. Usually at first the victims wouldn't know but then they would get sick and eventually die. Now there were only two cures to The Plague- The RFI or The Beast. The RFI cures The Plague but kills Conduits while The Beast cures only Conduits of The Plague and activates their powers. So if we try and say that the Evil Ending of InFAMOUS 2 is canon for Second Son, we have a problem. The Plague killed the victims it infected in weeks. Since this game takes place seven years after InFAMOUS 2 then it would be impossible for normal people to even exist still since more then likely they would of been all dead and only Conduits would remain. Meaning the Good Ending has to be the canon, and I'll explain why.
    In the Good Ending, Cole uses the RFI which ultimately cures millions of people without the Conduit gene but kills thousands with the gene supposedly. Now we honestly don't follow know if it killed all Conduits in the world. Perhaps the device had a specific range of effect. We know it did kill Conduits all around the world but did it kill all of them? Which takes me into my second theory that ties into it. A friend on another site came up with this. What if the Conduit gene can be either a dominant gene or a recessive gene? Then perhaps if that is the case all those people who have the dominant Conduit gene were targetted by the RFI so only they died but the people with the Recessive Conduit gene were not targetted by the RFI so they were uneffected and lived. To me that would really fit well into the storyarc of the InFAMOUS universe. Though we won't know until Sucker Punch actually tells us but to me this theory is the best and only way that InFAMOUS: Second Son could exist. Feel free to speculate as well.

    ALSO here's hoping that Zeke makes a cameo appearance if the InFAMOUS 2 Good Ending is the canon of the story. After all he would more then likely be fighting for rights for Conduits or "bio-terrorists" as the DUP calls them. Meaning that Zeke could be a target of the DUP. Plus with his knowledge of Conduits, he would be a reliable source for Delsin.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:10 pm

    I love it. Still haven't bought infamous 2, but i loved the first one.

    I like how they're not afraid to mix it up a bit, though but the looks of the teaser they'll employ similar abilities with a different method of accomplishing them.. if you get what i mean.

    Still, looks promising, Infamous really emerged as a leading Sony franchise towards the back end of the ps3's life time


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Argetlam350 on Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:26 pm

    Yeah I enjoy the direction they are taking with the game. I was only of the people who felt they should of stopped with Infamous 2 at first but after seeing this and the direction they are taking with the game I think it is pretty awesome. I like the Smoke powers idea, rather original idea. I'm curious how the powers will work. I'm also curious how powerful he will be since Conduit's vary in power.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Deathsitexxi on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:35 pm

    Something I think a lot of people are over looking also, I won't go into much detail to not spoil anything but..... . Doesn't this game make the Evil Cole ending of Infamous 2 cannon? Huge fan of this series and company and can't wait to see what they come up with.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:55 pm

    Deathsitexxi wrote:Something I think a lot of people are over looking also, I won't go into much detail to not spoil anything but..... . Doesn't this game make the Evil Cole ending of Infamous 2 cannon? Huge fan of this series and company and can't wait to see what they come up with.

    I'm pretty sure though even if you were good, the mere threat of another guy like cole who wanted to hurt instead of help would cause panic.

    I mean look at the complete paranoia that America has with terroism despite being pretty much safe from most major attack threats.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Argetlam350 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:01 pm

    Deathsitexxi wrote:Something I think a lot of people are over looking also, I won't go into much detail to not spoil anything but..... . Doesn't this game make the Evil Cole ending of Infamous 2 cannon? Huge fan of this series and company and can't wait to see what they come up with.
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    Well that's what the spoiler in the main post talks about. Really the good ending is more then likely the canon. The biggest flaw for the Evil Ending being canon is The Plague. If you went with the Evil Ending that would mean that within seven years majority, if not all the human race would be gone and only conduits would be left or now make the majority of the planet. Clearly that isn't the case in this game since humans are the majority and conduits still the minority.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Deathsitexxi on Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:17 pm

    Argetlam350 wrote:
    Deathsitexxi wrote:Something I think a lot of people are over looking also, I won't go into much detail to not spoil anything but..... . Doesn't this game make the Evil Cole ending of Infamous 2 cannon? Huge fan of this series and company and can't wait to see what they come up with.
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    Well that's what the spoiler in the main post talks about. Really the good ending is more then likely the canon. The biggest flaw for the Evil Ending being canon is The Plague. If you went with the Evil Ending that would mean that within seven years majority, if not all the human race would be gone and only conduits would be left or now make the majority of the planet. Clearly that isn't the case in this game since humans are the majority and conduits still the minority.



    I totally missed the spoiler link the in the OP.. and I'd have to agree with your line of thought. Can't wait to see what they do and either way I hope Cole makes a come back =)


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:41 pm

    Deathsitexxi wrote:
    Argetlam350 wrote:
    Deathsitexxi wrote:Something I think a lot of people are over looking also, I won't go into much detail to not spoil anything but..... . Doesn't this game make the Evil Cole ending of Infamous 2 cannon? Huge fan of this series and company and can't wait to see what they come up with.
    Spoiler:
    Well that's what the spoiler in the main post talks about. Really the good ending is more then likely the canon. The biggest flaw for the Evil Ending being canon is The Plague. If you went with the Evil Ending that would mean that within seven years majority, if not all the human race would be gone and only conduits would be left or now make the majority of the planet. Clearly that isn't the case in this game since humans are the majority and conduits still the minority.



    I totally missed the spoiler link the in the OP.. and I'd have to agree with your line of thought. Can't wait to see what they do and either way I hope Cole makes a come back =)

    I'd predict that you possibly see cole again in his guise going back to the original plot of the first game, just for a little tribute though. I'd much rather the story focus on the new guy.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Argetlam350 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:42 pm

    I don't know. I've been hanging around the Sucker Punch forums and keep reading that one of the Sucker Punch reps has stated that Cole will not be making a come back. Though haven't actually found where that was said.
    I just wish they would tell us which ending it is going off of. I don't know why but it is kind of driving me nuts. Probably because I really enjoy the Infamous series.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Seignar on Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:39 am

    The good ending is obviously canon, Evil ending:

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    would cause the death of the non-conduits. The world would be divided in a mass majority of conduits and a few lucky normal people that survived would be in hiding or would be engaging in Guerrilla Warfare.

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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Argetlam350 on Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:27 am

    Seignar wrote:The good ending is obviously canon, Evil ending:

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    would cause the death of the non-conduits. The world would be divided in a mass majority of conduits and a few lucky normal people that survived would be in hiding or would be engaging in Guerrilla Warfare.
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    Exactly. Glad to see I'm not the only person who sees the good ending as canon. Feels like we are in the minority of the fans though who see that since everyone seems to think that the Good Ending was the death of all conduits. However I can see a loophole on how to say that the RFI didn't kill all conduits. After all, genes can be either dominant or recessive so why can't the Conduit gene be either? Perhaps the RFI targetted only people with the dominant version of the Conduit gene while all those with the recessive version of the Conduit gene were not harmed. We after all don't entirely know how the RFI worked exactly, we just assumed it killed all conduits since thats what the good ending made it look like but obviously with Second Son that doesn't seem to be the case.


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    Re: InFAMOUS: Second Son

    Post by Argetlam350 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:30 pm

    Well bringing this thread back from the dead. So at Gamescon a new trailer was revealed for the game that shows one of the powers that Delsin will be able to get besides smoke. It appears to be some form of neon/light power which looks pretty cool. Also for me it kind of revealed more on Delsin's powers. So far we've known that Delsin's power is to absorb other Conduit's powers but I always assumed that that meant the person he absorbed them from would still maintain those powers. In this trailer though it kind of looked more like he not only absorb their powers but steals them, meaning he gets to use those powers but the person who originally had those powers looses the ability to use them. Just my thoughts.


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