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    SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:37 pm

    This is what I want to be my best/favorite build ever silly A few things cross my mind, in terms of leveling.
    Here's the plan with the current loadout:
    -Switch Talisman for Flame to cast Pyros.
    -Switch Thief Mask for MoM when going ultra-serious.
    -Switch to GCS when in need of Stamina Regen.
    -Switch to CS against Dark Magic. >,>

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    So, I'm thinking that it may be worth it to raise Str to 12. It will allow me access to the Balder Shield, and the Sunlight Straight Sword. This would also probably mean needing more End, however. I also have no experience with the Sunlight Straight Sword, but I know that it has the ever-famous thrusting attack. The Balder Shield would only be a couple stability higher, and I'm pretty sure it would also parry slower?(which is one of the big focuses of the build, to parry)
    Is it worth using any other magic than what I have listed and Black Flame? I probably won't actually use PW too much, more likely BF. But things like force, great fireball, tempest. Are they worth buying even? I've had my fair share of time using pyros, and from what I can make, these are the most useful to the build(It'll get around those pokers).

    Any other tips?


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by RANT on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:57 pm

    Balder shield has the same parry speed. Really can't say anuthing about the build since I hate vit builds.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:38 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:Balder shield has the same parry speed. Really can't say anuthing about the build since I hate vit builds.

    My problem in PvP always seems to be that I die in one lagstab, or I get hit 2-3 times and have 2HP left. I've spent my DkS career working on DAMAGE OUTPUT. Now I realize, I can have non-crappy defenses while also having huge damage on the Rapier's crits. Crits(especially parries) are my favorite tactic in DkS. I have so many assassins o.o But I figure, with stronk enough armor, and stronk enough vitality, I will be able to outlast my opponents when GL'ing, arena'ing, invading. This build is probably most my style, and I think, like your new build, should last me to DkS2.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:05 pm

    Tired of people saying you look like a hobo? :x

    Tired of being cold down there? :oops:

    Embarressed about your chicken legs?!?!?! sad

    Well you too can look like a boss for the cost of only 30 hps!!!!! cheers

    Thats right send in 30 hp and you too could be stylin... 8)

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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:13 pm

    Animaaal wrote:Tired of people saying you look like a hobo? :x

    Tired of being cold down there? :oops:

    Embarressed about your chicken legs?!?!?! sad

    Well you too can look like a boss for the cost of only 30 hps!!!!! cheers

    Thats right send in 30 hp and you too could be stylin... 8)

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    The waistcloth is actually quite flattering on girl characters silly

    But yeah, that would be good, I just prefer to have access to thief's/MoM though bounce


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:22 pm

    Myztyrio wrote:...The waistcloth is actually quite flattering on girl characters silly

    But yeah, that would be good, I just prefer to have access to thief's/MoM though bounce...

    Oh a chick? Well then maybe anti-chicken legs aren't for you. lol

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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by sure-magicians on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:46 pm

    Animaaal wrote:Tired of people saying you look like a hobo? :x

    Tired of being cold down there? :oops:

    Embarressed about your chicken legs?!?!?! sad

    Well you too can look like a boss for the cost of only 30 hps!!!!! cheers

    Thats right send in 30 hp and you too could be stylin... 8)

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    OMG I almost choked on my pretzel when reading this, lol! I hate how they look too but it's effective.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:52 pm

    sure-magicians wrote:
    Animaaal wrote:Tired of people saying you look like a hobo? :x

    Tired of being cold down there? :oops:

    Embarressed about your chicken legs?!?!?! sad

    Well you too can look like a boss for the cost of only 30 hps!!!!! cheers

    Thats right send in 30 hp and you too could be stylin... 8)

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    OMG I almost choked on my pretzel when reading this, lol! I hate how they look too but it's effective.

    They do look nice on my dex/pyromancer, because she's actually attractive in them. But no, this build is a dude. Is there a way I can not have to purge too many points into end, while still having at least the 31 poise breakpoint and 1.2 weight left for the head?


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:59 pm

    The waistcloth is OP in terms of poise. Only reason not to use it is for looks. Most of my girls use it and looks cool. If a guy, he needs raggedy clothes/armor as well to match the looks.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:03 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:The waistcloth is OP in terms of poise. Only reason not to use it is for looks. Most of my girls use it and looks cool. If a guy, he needs raggedy clothes/armor as well to match the looks.

    Lol yeah my builds tend to end up using it if it's a chick.

    The idea with this guy is he's supposed to look like a normal guy, but he's like a total badass silly
    But yeah, if anyone can find a way to not have to use it, but still meet those requirements, it would be appreciated. I've been looking into it, myself.

    Edit: I found this:

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=205106899520860662

    But it means +1 end, -a chunk of phys. def.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:10 pm

    Gough armor? IDK haven't seen the combination in game, should look cool for a guy. GLGS Dance is too weak for 12 Faith and PW only gets you killed in duels. Swap the rapier.

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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by RANT on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:14 pm

    Myztyrio wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:Balder shield has the same parry speed. Really can't say anuthing about the build since I hate vit builds.

    My problem in PvP always seems to be that I die in one lagstab, or I get hit 2-3 times and have 2HP left. I've spent my DkS career working on DAMAGE OUTPUT. Now I realize, I can have non-crappy defenses while also having huge damage on the Rapier's crits. Crits(especially parries) are my favorite tactic in DkS. I have so many assassins o.o But I figure, with stronk enough armor, and stronk enough vitality, I will be able to outlast my opponents when GL'ing, arena'ing, invading. This build is probably most my style, and I think, like your new build, should last me to DkS2.

    That's why you switch to rtsr and make an awesome comeback, I love doing that, switcjing to rtsr then ohko'ing my opponent, feels pretty good.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:15 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Gough armor? IDK haven't seen the combination in game, should look cool for a guy. GLGS Dance is too weak for 12 Faith and PW only gets you killed in duels. Swap the rapier.

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    Uhh.. bounce GLGS doesn't scale with Faith, it scales with Gravelord Covenant rank as far as I'm aware. And what happened to the rapier?


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:19 pm

    Menu swap rapier, or just put it on the bow slot if you don't like using bows. Fire Tempest does more damage than GLGS Dance GL+3 50 Faith, imagine how crap this miracle is.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:22 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Menu swap rapier. Fire Tempest does more damage than GLGS Dance GL+3 50 Faith, imagine how crap this miracle is.

    Doesn't it have faster startup time? People always see Fire Tempest a mile away.

    And yeah, I was planning on swapping out for pyro/talisman/bow. I was also considering swapping shield for another weapon at times. All depends on the matchup, I guess. So you think I should go to 12 str for the Sunlight Sword, but not bother with the extra weight of the Balder Shield?

    Edit: I'm reading that there are certain small advantages to GLGSD, although it may not outweigh the lost damage. This will be my first time really Gravelording, and I'd like it to be legit(in my sense of the word). I've had my good share of pyromancies, and would really only like to use GC/BF as backup spells for turtlers. I have much experience with tempest already, and would like something new. My view of it is: If I can get one hit off with the GLGSD, I should be able to finish them off with one crit without any problem.
    GLGSD + BS/Riposte = a dead pony.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:27 pm

    If you want the Balder Shield why not??? HP after 50 is not as useful as extra weight imo. However Balder Shield have crappy defenses though, it's your call.

    Edit: They have approx. same start up at base Dex, BUT GLGS Dance speed doesn't increases with high Dex. Another -1 for the badass miracle.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:31 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:If you want the Balder Shield why not??? HP after 50 is not as useful as extra weight imo. However Balder Shield have crappy defenses though, it's your call.

    Edit: They have approx. same start up at base Dex, BUT GLGS Dance speed doesn't increases with high Dex. Another -1 for the badass miracle.

    So does GCS, although it would allow for that extra stamina boost.

    Best choice is probably Tower Kite, as it has the high stability and GCS' weight. Or maybe Heater Shield would be best, since it also has faster parrying animation, along with 100% physical and decent stability.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:35 pm

    GCS has 42 magic defense though, pretty good for a metal shield...that Heater and SK Shield is the most I use.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:37 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:GCS has 42 magic defense though, pretty good for a metal shield...that Heater and SK Shield is the most I use.

    Yeah I use SK for Strength/Quality, Heater for low level. Why not tower kite though?


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:40 pm

    GCS is my 3 weight shield most of the time. Tower Kite seems like a good shield, but Heater wins at lower weight for bit less stability (-4), equipload being the most important thing nowadays.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Animaaal on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:50 pm

    Myztyrio wrote:...But no, this build is a dude...

    :affraid: WHAAAAAA?!?!?!?! :affraid:

    Sale sniffing Bloodhound-Human Clone sniffs sale from 300 miles away….

    Animaaal wrote:Tired of people saying you look like a hobo? :x

    Tired of being cold down there? :oops:

    Embarressed about your chicken legs?!?!?! sad

    Well you too can look like a boss for the cost of only 30 hps!!!!! cheers

    Thats right send in 30 hp and you too could be stylin... 8)

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    I'm so tired of repeat commercials.

    jjjjjjjjj silly

    Maybe this: anti-chicken legs2

    You can use MoM too and not sacrifice as much hp.
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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:56 pm

    Animaaal wrote:
    Myztyrio wrote:...But no, this build is a dude...

    :affraid: WHAAAAAA?!?!?!?! :affraid:

    Sale sniffing Bloodhound-Human Clone sniffs sale from 300 miles away….

    Animaaal wrote:Tired of people saying you look like a hobo? :x

    Tired of being cold down there? :oops:

    Embarressed about your chicken legs?!?!?! sad

    Well you too can look like a boss for the cost of only 30 hps!!!!! cheers

    Thats right send in 30 hp and you too could be stylin... 8)

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    I'm so tired of repeat commercials.

    jjjjjjjjj silly

    Maybe this: anti-chicken legs2

    You can use MoM too and not sacrifice as much hp.

    This looks nice silly

    And Wyrm - But I feel like people dead-angle so easily when you're using the Heater.


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:59 pm

    Hmm idk, try dodging those easy to dead angle weapons more. And BTW regarding your GLGS Dance concern, read this thread. I made a couple of damage/speed tests:

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t16990p15-using-glgs-dance-as-a-sorcery-aoe?highlight=GLGS+Dance


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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

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    Re: SL100 Final Edition

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:21 pm


    Lol, now that would be rediculous. tongue


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