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    What's so hard?

    Post by User1 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:32 pm

    There are things people say are difficult I don't think, but why do people consider these things difficult?:

    • 4 Kings on NG+: SL1 or not, people say this is hard. I found it fairly easy, on both terms. Why so hard?
    • O&S on NG+ at SL1: Once again, I've heard people requesting help for this a lot. I did on my second try, Chaos Reinforced Club +5. Why so hard?
    • Getting Avelyn: Sure, it's a pain first time, but you learn the time you should jump off the rotating stairs quite quickly. Why so hard?
    So I leave any responders with the same question: Why so hard?
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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Slarg232 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:36 pm

    The four kings and O/S are endurance matches, and most people just have a trouble with the double team effect of O/S.

    Also, alot of people CAN beat O/S by themselves, but honestly after doing it a couple times it's just not worth the effort.


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Jodecho on Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:19 pm

    the only trouble ive ever had on a SL 1 was O&S, and 95% of it is O. seems the lower level i fight them with the more often he will randomly do attacks without the tell animations and after the attack he will bounce around 5 or more times instead of the usual two or three, making it harder to hit him while avoiding S.
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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by GrinTwist on Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:33 pm

    I've always found the bosses difficult on NG+2. NG+ is somewhat challenging when it comes to the four kings but for the most part you just need to understand when and where to roll to avoid their attacks.

    O&S on the other hand have just gotten easier and easier for me. I understand that it might be difficult the first time around but at NG+ they aren't actually that hard to beat.

    I'll be honest with you all when it comes to the Avelyn, I've never bothered to grab it. Not a single one of my characters has it on them. I don't even know where to find it.


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Automancer on Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:33 pm

    Well, let's just say that you can't judge what others are capable of based on your own accomplishments. Not everyone can do what you did. Simple.

    After getting through NG+14 with my SL1 character, everything PvE related is easy for me. But does that mean everyone else can do it? Yes, but with a lot of patience and hair tearing.


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by BIG TIME MASTER on Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:41 pm

    Not everybody is born with thumbs of steel and trained from birth to endure the rigors of gaming.

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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Carphil on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:24 pm

    I can't roll correctly. I don't have the reflexes. Thats sums all my boss fights, tank, or just stay spamming magic/arrows


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:11 pm

    I'm not good at casting. I'm just not. I'm doing a pure caster play through, and I'm just co-oping s&o. Too afraid to continue...

    Anyway, I can do all the stuff up there, cept avelyn. No idea where it is. Never bothered. But I'd rather summon for s&o, because I already proved to myself that I can do it solo. I'm doing builds that expand my skills, rather than actions.


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Hue on Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:35 am

    Four Kings NG+, nothing can be possibly harder than this, i tried magic, ranged, melee, 0 poise, power within, tanking, everytime i die
    O&S, you can always summon Solaire Praise the Sun , i think they are harder in NG
    Manus, actually easier than i thought, i took him down to half health on my first NG+ try, then he went medieval on my *** and YOU DIED, it's one of those guys who are easier to solo
    Artorias, and Sanctuary Guardian, the difficulty goes away once you know their moveset.
    The first time you fight the gargoyles without Sunbro and Loltrec
    And cutting of Kalameet's tail, arguably one of the hardest things in the game

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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by FullSpe3D on Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:26 am

    Gwyn, SL1, NG+. I'm too used to PvP parry timing, especially fighting a weapon occasionally used in PvP.


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Nybbles on Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:49 am

    the only boss i can't beat at SL1 is the 4 Kings, i can out last Toejam and Earl but the kings troll the **** out of me every time.
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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:30 pm

    ITT: OP brags about his DkS skills and people actually reply.


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Hue on Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:14 pm

    Nybbles wrote:i can out last Toejam and Earl

    Ugh...i remember that game...


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by k4Anarky on Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:05 pm

    I beat O&S on my first run, actually 8). I was like "Maybe tommorow? Let's just do a scout run" with 7 estus flasks.

    Mainly because I was overbuffing my stamina to be able to use the Dragon Greatsword and Stone Greatshield without fatrolling (with Havel's Ring, OC)... But when I arrived in Anor Londo I found the Havel Greatshield and the superior Dragon Tooth (and by this time I've already killed Andre of Astora silly)... Havel's Greatshield kicks ***. Its special ability prevent from getting knocked back at all, awesome stability absorb almost every single hit, while Fatboy Slim recovered from power attacks slow enough so that I can drop some juicy hits. While having the Brass Set on and Havel GS's 80 lightning resistance, their lightning damage was pretty much rendered impotent.

    It was a very close one, though. I ran out of estus near the end, and had to play conservative and keep a distance from super Smough. But amazing shield won the battle for me.


    Four Kings (More like Six Kings) was b****es, though. I found that by staying on their sides, it keeps them busy trying to swing at me and not do that grabby BS or/and explode. But that force me to keep a merry-go-round, while still attacking; it's hard with a slow weapon. I plan to fight them with a Silver Knight Shield and Claymore on NG, because the last time was a nightmare.


    But you know what's "hard"? Hellkite Dragon on NG. Not hard, but incredibly cheap. Hit it once and it still instakill you immediately with the above firebreath, even when decked out with fire resistance gear AND ring (I don't even think it's breathing fire :suspect: ). If you dodge out of the way, then it sets the whole bridge on fire and knocks you down, no matter how much poise you have. And as soon as you get up, it flies over and set the bridge on fire AGAIN.

    The only boss I've ever given up on. I laugh at its cheapness.
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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Jester's Tears on Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:55 pm

    ''What's so Hard''...You made me do it.

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    Sorry ;-;


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by Flankydizzle on Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:39 pm

    If you don't find 4kings on NG+ at SL1 hard then what DO you find hard?

    Just because you've done it doesn't mean it's not hard and I doubt it was as easy for you as you make it sound happy


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    Re: What's so hard?

    Post by CappuccinoJak on Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:34 am

    gwyn was so hard for me on my first run. i must've died a hundred times before accidentally parrying him :shock:

    i actually totally forget about killing the hellkite before moving onto NG+ lol.

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