Seek Guidance + Hidden Developer messages

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    Seek Guidance + Hidden Developer messages

    Post by retro on Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:28 pm

    I noticed the wikidot page didn't have a nice list of all of the hidden developer messages like on wikispaces, so I decided to make one. Although since I don't like copying/pasting content across wikis, I made sure to verify the list and found a couple more:

    http://darksouls.wikidot.com/seek-guidance

    Blighttown:
    "bug?"
    Shortly after the upper bonfire, on a ledge overlooking the Parasitic Wall Hugger.

    The Duke's Archives:
    "Try resignation"
    In Seath the Scaleless's first location. To the left after you pass through the fog gate.
    Whoever did the searching before did a very good job, as these were the only two messages I found and I spent a lot of time trying to cover every inch of the world. Plus they were kind of hard to see because of the colors of the floors they're on. If I still missed any, I doubt there could be more than 1 or 2 left to be found.

    I would also remove three of the Catacombs messages from the list. "Treasure", "Up", and "Shorcut ahead" all display without the use of seek guidance, so they're non-hidden. I'm unsure if they may have been hidden upon release or before a certain patch, though, but they're not hidden now.

    Same goes for "???" in the Crystal Cave. Actually... I can't find the "???" message at all anymore! I do remember it being there, but now there's a non-hidden message that says something like "Path ahead", where I think "???" used to be. This might've come with patch 1.06.

    I couldn't find any hidden messages in the DLC areas, which makes me think that "Let the be light" and "If only Hawkeye were here..." were probably intended to be hidden, but then they gave up on it. Perhaps it is indirect acknowledgment from the devs that seek guidance was mostly pointless...
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    Re: Seek Guidance + Hidden Developer messages

    Post by Sentiel on Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:42 pm

    The messages in Catacombs were indeed hidden, but got...unhidden? whith the patch 1.06.

    After I found my first hidden message just after you exit Parish to Darkroot, I actually spend some time spamming Seek Guidance to find as many as I could, but gave up soon, because it didn't last very long and it doesn't have enough casts to cover whole areas. However I did use it in Catacombs before I gave up. ^^

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    Re: Seek Guidance + Hidden Developer messages

    Post by retro on Thu May 16, 2013 12:26 pm

    I was able to find another message using the raw text files provided here:
    http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Frisson_Seeker/Datamining_Dark_Souls_PC

    All of the hidden developer messages are lumped together in one location (found in the dialogs text file), and even seem to be separated from the non-hidden messages. I spotted one that said "Ember ahead" and found it:

    Darkroot Garden:
    "Ember ahead"
    Signifying the ember's location in the Forest, found when approaching from the Great Feline area.

    But there are a couple other unknown messages, anyone think they can find them?
    1. Try lightning...
    2. Try Light...

    The messages seem to be grouped by area.

    1. "Try lightning" falls between the messages of the Darkroot Garden and the Catacombs. That probably means it could be in either of those areas, or it might be in neither, in another place that doesn't have other messages.

    If it was grouped with Darkroot Garden, I assumed that maybe they wanted you to try using Gold Pine Resin on sif, so I checked the entire Sif arena, as well as the bridge to Sif... no luck. Also tried double checking the Great Feline area.

    Are there any enemies with a notable weakness to lightning?

    2. No idea about this one. I double checked the entrance to TotG, the main path down to the first bonfire, and the pit where patches kicks you in. Couldn't find it. I also tried the second illusory wall in Oolacile Township that requites light.

    It falls between the messages of The Catacombs, and Blighttown/ Quelaag's Domain. Like above, that probably means it should be in either of those areas, or another area that doesn't have more messages.

    Or it's also possible they're just unused...
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    Re: Seek Guidance + Hidden Developer messages

    Post by Tolvo on Thu May 16, 2013 12:41 pm

    I was actually the guy who did the earlier search, when I did it the ones in the catacombs were hidden, currently they're hidden for me still but if you guys say they are not then it's fine to remove them from the listing. I'm not sure why they only show up for me when I use seek guidance though.
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    Re: Seek Guidance + Hidden Developer messages

    Post by Latitoast on Sat May 18, 2013 12:53 am

    Isn't there one in front of the illusory wall leading to the Daughter of Chaos?


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    Re: Seek Guidance + Hidden Developer messages

    Post by retro on Sun May 19, 2013 8:17 pm

    Yes, but that's accounted for on both wikis. happy

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