Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

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    Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by LunarFog on Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:16 pm

    Astora - Advanced region ruled by royalty, known for it's powerful warriors, skilled craftsmen, and overall beauty.
    Standard soldier equipment: Elite Knight set, Crest shield, Dragon crest shield, Astora's straight sword, and Binoculars



    Balder - An ancient kingdom that was home of the legendary Knight King Rendal who killed a dragon with just his sword. People who come from there are Knight King Rendal, and the Balder Knights.
    Standard soldier equipment: Balder Knight set, Balder Side sword, Balder shield, Rapier, and Target shield

    Berenike - Knights of Berenike were giant men who could crush a Hollow with just their shield alone.
    Standard soldier equipment: Black Iron Armor set, Steel Armor set, Greatsword, Greataxe, Mace, Tower Shield, Black Iron Greatshield

    Catarina - A land known for it's cheerful inhabitants, festivity and drink. The gallant knights of Catarina are often mocked by others due to their armor, despite how effective it is for defense.
    Standard soldier equipment: Catarina Armor set, pierce shield, blue tearstone ring, claymore, Zweihander



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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Hue on Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:40 pm

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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:52 pm

    Lordran is the kingdom of the gods, to the north of the world. The other kingdoms are located outside of Lordran. Anyway from those 4 I would say Catarina, pretty much because there aren't many Catarina hollows in Lodran. Berenike and Balder lost most of its forces by going hollow, amd Astora is meh lol. Carim would pretty much win with all the gods there now though.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Infighter on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:01 pm

    Catarina.

    Because they are cheerful fellas


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:03 pm

    Infighter wrote:Catarina.

    Because they are cheerful fellas

    And don't forget their armors are good for parrying.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Kyōkai on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:05 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:
    Infighter wrote:Catarina.

    Because they are cheerful fellas

    And don't forget their armors are good for parrying.

    Assuming that most warriors from Catarina are using Pierce Shields like Siegmeyer and Sieglinde are, their piece Pierce of :dung: shields won't even let them parry lol.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:19 pm

    whys vinheim not on the list? and what about thorolund? their a theocracy and they invented wog so... that could be nasty


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by gmwdim on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:16 am

    Judging by our own history, nothing moves troops in quantity like crazyass religion, so Thorolund would have that advantage over all of the above. And the Thorolund guys don't lack for quality either, with their WoG spam.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Poozila on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:31 am

    I'm going for Carim. Every weirdo in the game is pretty much from Carim and they're all pretty strong.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by gmwdim on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:34 am

    Poozila wrote:I'm going for Carim. Every weirdo in the game is pretty much from Carim and they're all pretty strong.

    Yeah, but the only one you have to fight resorts to ganking and still gets his *** kicked. What does that tell you about the skill level of those Carim gankers? big grin


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by GrinTwist on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:16 am

    I took a vacation to Carim once, most of them are alright people not much to say about them though. They really keep to themselves quite a bit, even more than the average hollow down in the ruins.

    Catarina on the other hand, great place. There is this thing called "Drunk Sunday" imagine stocks upon stocks of beer, wine, and rum that could last you a lifetime. Now of course that's in their cities, and I never really visited the country around Catarina. Let me just tell you now though, there isn't a more jolly time you could have when your co-oping drunk off of Catarina rum. Seriously, it's great, just imagine a mix between estus flasks, cold beer, and grape all mixed in to were it actually tastes good.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by skarekrow13 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:20 am

    And let's not forget Oolacile. They have Skarekrows. Clear victory. Not that I'm biased. Plus in their heyday they can blind their opponents with cast light (like Gandalf leading the charge at first light).

    From the choices above I would say Catarina. Perseverance, patience, good humor and more than a touch of violent tendencies is a good combo. While Tarkus has my vote for strongest individual, he seems to be the exception. His armor description suggests (outright states actually) that he's unparalleled in humans.

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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by WandererReece on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:46 am

    Vinheim has assassins.

    Let's not forget Solaire is part of Astoria, or Andre the kick boxer.

    I would choose the Berenike Knights. They're huge and immune to criticals. twisted


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by psychichobo on Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:54 pm

    Hmm, difficult choice. I'd probably go with Catarina over Astora simply because Solaire has the skill of a God, whilst Siegmeyer and Sieglinde are quite capable of bimbling up to Anor Londo, Duke's Archives, down to Lost Izalith and Ash Lake. They do get around they do, and all without lightning spears.

    Then again, they do spend a lot of time absorbed in thought...
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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Ghadis_God on Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:58 pm

    The Berenike and Balder knights are likely from the same land. The Crestfallen Merchant sells both of their armor sets while being a berenike knight, and the knights of Berenike and Balder are almost always found close together, as if they were comrades on the same mission. The "Knights of Berenike" was probably a name for the elite knights of Balder, a knightly order rather than a country.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by BeeSeaEss on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:03 pm

    Catarina because they like to hang out and they look silly :eye-death: U :eye-death: lol


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Kyōkai on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:57 pm

    Guy: You see those warriors from the Far East?
    Guy: They've got curved swords. CURVED. SWORDS. HUGE. CURVED. SWORDS.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Ashran on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:37 am

    WyrmHero wrote:Lordran is the kingdom of the gods, to the north of the world. The other kingdoms are located outside of Lordran. Anyway from those 4 I would say Catarina, pretty much because there aren't many Catarina hollows in Lodran. Berenike and Balder lost most of its forces by going hollow, amd Astora is meh lol. Carim would pretty much win with all the gods there now though.

    this.

    But hey... Benerike! TARKUS!


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by KingSeekerCow on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:37 am

    Kyōkai wrote:Guy: You see those warriors from the Far East?
    Guy: They've got curved swords. CURVED. SWORDS. HUGE. CURVED. SWORDS.

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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by DoughGuy on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:50 am

    Whichever one hasn't collapsed into ruin from the undead outbreak.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Samurainova on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:35 pm

    Let's not forget that balder and berenike ended becoming overrun by the undead. Hence why their are a lot of their knights in lordran itself. I ithink it would have to come down to a battle between astora ande catarina. Very few is known between them, but we do know that solaire and siegmeyer hail from each their own. So it kind of comes down to a simple question.

    Who would win between siegmeyer and solaire?

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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by WandererReece on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:46 pm

    ^ Solaire hurles his infamous lightning bolt at Siegmeyer while Siegmeyer is "absorbed in thought". Solaire runs in for the kill, but Siegmeyer flattens Solaire with his Zweihander. When Solaire gets back up Siegmeyer backstabs Solaire, and Solaire dies.


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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by skarekrow13 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:47 pm

    I would say it goes far beyond that simple question. Heroes aren't necessarily indicative of their nation. While a strong hero can help (particularly with leadership and motivation) the quality of the masses is what would determine a nation's strength. Also, the NPCs we see may not even reflect much in the way of national culture and ability. Solaire and Siegmeyer are both good candidates to be diagnosed with fairly substantial mental health diagnoses. Mental health issues of their kind often lead to dedication that is not normally seen.

    So the questions I would look to answer, are:
    -What nation/region has evidence of a structured military presence?
    -What nation/region appears to place an emphasis on martial strength or conditioning? (the key here is regional culture, not individual or group culture since those might be atypical of the area)
    -What area has the strongest technological or similar advancements?
    -etc. etc.

    To answer you question though, Solaire is a glorified meat shield with very poor battle intelligence. So, uh, not him.


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    For the record, I still vote Oolacile based on these questions. There's no evidence necessarily of military structure, however, their magics seem able to create a lot of havoc and aren't really all that peaceful. Also, the ability to repair equipment on the fly is nice, and not a peaceful spell by any means. There's no indication directly of an emphasis on military strength, see above, their magic seems like maybe they are ready to rumble. The biggest factor which I jokingly referenced earlier is technological/other advancement. They have either created forms of life or altered them to their advantage. Royal Wood: Skarekrows (they're just gardeners....holding one of the more lethal spear class weapons. Ax wielding stone giants, 'nuff said. In the Town: that prisoner seems unaffected by the darkness to a large degree. He's pretty B to the A. They also seemed to have picked up on destructive magic pretty well didn't they? Darkroot: the gardener Skarekrows are now blood sucking Jubokko. Elizabeth's descendants pack a huge punch. Their cats do more than drink milk. The Stone Giants there can TWoP your sorry rear and gank you. While I know Darkroot is a different timeline, remeber that these are all WEAKER versions of teh glory days of Oolacile. The rough hewn Stone ax guys protect the guardian. The more noble looking giants have fallen into some level of somber and mossy state and are likely less lethal thanks to the passage of time. So imagine an army trying to run in. The Stone Guardian phalanx TWoPs a VERY large area while the fast moving Skarekrows and Cats (who are more than likely NOT feral, see Alvina) cause havoc. The Stone Ax guys AoE everyone and the Mushrooms show why ranged weapons are a good idea. And that's all assuming they aren't Dark Orb spamming the whole time.

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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by Samurainova on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:07 pm

    WandererReece wrote:^ Solaire hurles his infamous lightning bolt at Siegmeyer while Siegmeyer is "absorbed in thought". Solaire runs in for the kill, but Siegmeyer flattens Solaire with his Zweihander. When Solaire gets back up Siegmeyer backstabs Solaire, and Solaire dies.

    Neither would ever be so dishonorable as to backstab the other. I think they both have to much pride. Good fight over everything else though happy

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    Re: Strongest Kingdom in Lordran

    Post by WandererReece on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:12 pm

    ^ I'm not sure about that. I saw Solaire go after an invader without bowing. Although, I never saw Siegmeyer fight. He's always "absorbed in thought." I like to think he's reveiwing battle strategies, but his snoring suggest something else.


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