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    Offhand idea

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am

    https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=264082659490664597

    Attack with Server to break 35 poise then attack with Chaos Blade asap to break 20 poise. 35+20 = 55 to break 53 poise. Offhand Server is faster than main hand so it should be more efficient than spamming it in the main hand to try to stunlock. Chaos Blade can't stunlock anyway so that's a -1. Don't know if a greatsword (Flamberge) would be faster in offhand, either way Chaos Blade + Server screams badass. Should be useful for builds that mid roll with high poise. Tank hits and do the combo.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:11 am

    Too bad i can't upvote you. I approve of this! Offhand CGSs are badass. Although i feel that you should use the Notched Whip in the off hand too so you can parry and a spear in the main hand.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:11 am

    That's a neat idea. I've never really considered dual handing much, other than to equip a spear for range, or a whip to harass parry spammers. Combining weapons for more efficient poise breaking could work really well though.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by Myztyrio on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:13 am

    .............:cyclops:

    Two of the sexiest weapons in the game, and you found a way to make it work.

    Where did you get the figures of 35 and 20?


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:22 am

    Myztyrio wrote:.............:cyclops:

    Two of the sexiest weapons in the game, and you found a way to make it work.

    Where did you get the figures of 35 and 20?

    From this:
    For melee there are 4 major Poise breakpoints.

    76 poise (51 for 1-handed resists):
    All Ultra Greatswords 2h R1s
    All Great Axes 2h R1s
    All Great Blunt 2h R1s

    53 poise (36 for 1-handed resists):
    All Great Asian Swords 2h R1s
    All Great Swords 2h R1s
    All 1-handed Blunts 2h R1s
    All 1-handed Axes 2h R1s

    31 poise (21 for 1-handed resists):
    All Asian Sword 2h R1s (and R2 in the case of Shotel)
    All 1-handed Sword 2h R1s
    All Katana 2h R1s (including Washing Pole)
    All Great Scythe 2h R1/R2s
    All Whip 2h R1s
    All Large Spear (Partisan/Pike) 2h R1s
    All Small Spear (Silver Spear/Winged Spear) 2h R1s
    All Halberd/Pole 2h R1s (figured this would have been 53, but it wasn't).

    8 poise (6 poise for 1-hand resists, or Fist Weapons):
    All Rapier 2h R1s
    All Dagger 2h R1s
    All Fist Weapons R1s (although this is actually 6 since you can't 2-hand a Fist Weapon)



    1 handed resist sweet spot for katana and greatsword/CGS is 21 and 36 respectively, so they break up to 20 and 35 respectively.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:29 pm

    Bump


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:09 pm

    It sounds amazing :O Might try it with my dex build, not sure if I have the strength to wield the Server though.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:16 pm

    Flamberge should work as well but I don't know if a curved greatsword is faster than greatsword in offhand.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by Automancer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:22 pm

    The speed is roughly the same but the curved greatswords have a wider arching swings to the greatswords in the off hand. UGS on the other hand surpass those curved greatswords but slower.
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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:38 pm

    I have enough strength for the Flamberge but I threw poop at Shiva's face Look Skyward
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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:40 pm

    densetsushun wrote:I have enough strength for the Flamberge but I threw poop at Shiva's face Look Skyward

    Farm 1 at Sens the lightning man serpents drop them.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:14 pm

    why dont u just kick them?


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by Myztyrio on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:16 pm

    Yeah, I totally forgot about the 1-handed breakpoints! I always just focused on two-handed. Dude, please personally let me know if this works! I would definitely make a build for it


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:36 pm

    Rifter7 wrote:why dont u just kick them?
    The sword does damage though.


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    Re: Offhand idea

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:29 am

    I don't know why I got a feeling this can become an infinite stunlock if the sword is fast enough after the katana breaks the poise. It would be sword, katana, sword, katana. I'll test and see.


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