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    Is this any good?

    Post by Kuragari on Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:23 pm

    i'm trying to get into alittle pvp more and more.

    i haven't figured out the whole armor thing really. but i've really been enjoying the dragonslayer spear, and the zweihander with the sunlight blade buff does massive damage. i've tried to balance out all resistances and defences.

    i lose more often then i win, however if it makes any difference i'm using the RSS in the burg as my pvp spot, seems to be alot of fun but i still lose alot.

    here's what i have so far http://mmdks.com/10ux


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Kuragari on Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:29 pm

    oh sorry, i probley should have put this in the pvp forum sad


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by LunarFog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:35 pm

    Y-you're insane. This build is all bad. You do know that the standard level for PvP is 99 or 120 right?

    And the iron round shield isn't that good. and havel's armor isn't the best for defense. and your spells are completely out of whack. and resistance is absolutely useless. and you shouldn't have any stat over 50. and ring of steel protection is bad. and dragonslayer spear isn't that good. and the demon's machete outdamages the zweihander. and-

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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Kuragari on Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:51 pm

    the character wasn't originally intended on pvp, i also highly reframe from using magics during pvp. i'll pop off a wotg a few times and only recently starting using the sunlight blade


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by LunarFog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:22 pm

    Well um....theres a lot of things you can change to make it stronger.

    1.) Switch out Ring of Iron defense with Havel's ring. It will boost the amount of weight you can use by 50%. WHich means you can change to heavier and stronger equipment.

    2.) Havel's armor has the best poise, but Giant's armor has the most defense in the game.

    3.) Demon's great machete out damages the Zweihander.

    4.) Switching the iron round shield with a heavy shield(preferably greatshield of artorias) would be a wise decision if you don't parry.

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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Flankydizzle on Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:27 pm

    Gee wizz man that build is all OVER the place.
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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Kuragari on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:07 pm

    well i haven't had a huge amount of success with any of the ultra great swords when it comes to pvp, i have but i haven't. the reason i was liking the dragonslayer spear is cause of how quick it is and the range it has.

    believe it or not on my sl120 he's a total cosplay character and uses the +15 broad sword and i've killed a lot of people with it lol i do like things that attack pretty quickly with pretty quick recovery. i dont really pvp with that character but invasions happen.

    i dont have a problem learning how to use other weapons that i haven't really used. i do prefer to not use magics, i dunno i just like fighting it out the old fashioned way lol

    i do have the giant gear upgraded, any suggestions on which pieces to use exactly? i suck at pvp imo but i have had some success...or luck, which ever direction you wanna take it lol


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:12 am

    LunarFog wrote:Y-you're insane. This build is all bad. You do know that the standard level for PvP is 99 or 120 right?

    And the iron round shield isn't that good. and havel's armor isn't the best for defense. and your spells are completely out of whack. and resistance is absolutely useless. and you shouldn't have any stat over 50. and ring of steel protection is bad. and dragonslayer spear isn't that good. and the demon's machete outdamages the zweihander. and-
    Don't be rude to new players Lunar.

    OP, I would recommend using the Ring of Favor and Protection as well as perhaps Havel's ring and some lighter armor so you can fast roll. With that level, it might be best to host and wait for invaders, as your red sign can only be summoned by people near your level or higher than it. Darkwraiths however, invade up indefinitely, so you'll end up fighting some lower level people.


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by BLA1NE on Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:20 am

    Try this out: http://mmdks.com/113x

    I put Paladin's chest on because, well, you don't want to be wearing full Giant's--that's just not cool! Switched the Silver Knight Spear instead of the Dragonslayer because it only has 1 attack type--probably won't make a big difference, but I prefer pure weapons. And I threw the Grass Crest Shield in there since I took out the Cloranthy ring in favor of rings that will give you increased mobility.

    So, here's how I recommend you use this:

    Use the Zwei first, always 2-handed. You are not using shields anymore during PvP from now on! When PvPing with the Zwei, do not lock on. This is actually a lot easier than you'd think, since the weapon has such a huge swing arc. What you want to do is aim to the left and to the right of your opponent, alternating, to hit him in your swing arc, but not directly at him. This will allow you to bypass his shield and also not to get parried as easily. Also, people will try to backstab you a lot since you're using a large weapon, and without lock-on you'll be able to hit directly behind you when you see someone try to go for your back and catch them off-guard. Teach those would-be-backstabbers! Once you get low on health, switch to the SKS and play the ranged-game. Stay just out of reach of your opponent's weapon and poke at him with the SKS. Poke once and roll away. Keep poking and rolling and you'll be untouchable.

    With fast move speed and roll, it's quite easy to dodge enemy attacks. Since you're no longer using a shield, you'll get good at dodging. So fight without lock-on with the Zwei, and switch to the SKS when you're low on health, and always dodge. Do this and you'll win more fights in no time!


    And once you get a liking to PvP, you can think about making a proper build-- you know, on that's SL120, not 417!


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by WandererReece on Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:24 pm

    Actually such a high level character probably wouldn't have too many problems hosting. I'd love to see how something like that would handle in the forest. twisted

    @ Kuragari: You mentioned liking the Dragonslayer Spear. You may want to try the Winged Spear w/ Sunlight Blade. It's like a knock off Dragonslayer Spear, but with a lot more damage. The stuff BLA1NE typed is also really good advice. For future reference you may want to stop at 233 with these stats next time. http://mmdks.com/1197. Taking these stats higher almost isn't worth the effort. Also, you'll be able to invade more people if you limit yourself to 100.

    Don't worry too much about leveling up a lot. I know someone who loves making level 666 characters. lol!


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Kuragari on Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:16 pm

    actually i get summoned with the rss alot in the burg, haven't really tried the garden with that character in awhile.

    i wasn't really building this character for the soul purpose of pvp, this was one of my first characters and he's pretty much the one i use to test things out on if i'm interested in using a weapon or other armors and so on.

    i have several characters of various SLs and none of them are a real pvp character. i've been playing this game for quite some time now and never really did much pvp unless required too, and i've always wanted to have a really high lvl character.

    i'll be glad to fight you in the forest or something if you want, i could put down my sign anywhere you would like


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Myztyrio on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:25 pm

    I have an SL 407 with a sort of similar setup silly

    Care to co-op in the forest or burg sometime? Maybe soon? big grin


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    Re: Is this any good?

    Post by Kuragari on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:14 pm

    absolutly send me a friend request, my gt is in my sig.


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