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    Post by Mr. Tart Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:28 am

    While octopus makes a fair point, i believe it's just going to become too "clumsy" with the posts if there are several riddles at the same time, therefor i say 1).
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    Post by morte Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:50 am

    While 2 does sound kind of appealing, I'm going to go with 1.
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    Post by Rynn Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:26 am

    Would someone mind quoting my riddle again then? I'll make sure it's on each page after that so noone has to search for it.
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    Post by Zephryl Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:37 am

    Rynn wrote:Would someone mind quoting my riddle again then? I'll make sure it's on each page after that so noone has to search for it.

    Fiery flares drop everywhere
    Like rounded pools filled with despair
    Yet shields worn by ashen knights
    receive only a short reprieve

    Gathers Dust in an old tomb
    Sought for treasures never took
    twixt between it's always there
    and with it's flare it spreads despair

    Weakened force we crash we fall
    In crystals, chaos, or faithful Gall
    we look upon the flare once more
    and in a flash it then will fall.
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    Post by Hue Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:30 pm

    Is it the Lorvessel's flame?


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    Post by Zephryl Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:38 pm

    Also, Is it those screaming skull things in the Catacombs? I have no idea what they're called.
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:52 pm

    Dying on purpose to use the Ring of Sacrifice to get back to the top of the Great Hollow?

    I'm doubtful that this is correct.
    I'm convinced that it is in the great hollow, but I cant seem to come up with an answer that I know is correct.

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    Post by Teh_hapy_octopus Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:32 pm

    Zeph stated it wasn't something specific to the great hollow but could be related
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    Post by Teh_hapy_octopus Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:10 pm

    so how about that answer zeph?
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    Post by Zephryl Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:13 am

    Sorry about that, I was supposed to post is last night but it completely slipped my mind...


    The answer is "Vagrant" or "Creating a Vagrant" or, anything along those lines really.


    "A frightful shock, that sudden loss"

    Losing a lot of souls is a shock, especially if you have a lot as that means you're a lot more confident.

    "The process started, a ring could stop."

    A Ring/Rare Ring of Sacrifice could stop this

    "A fearsome trial, though not a boss"

    Vagrants, like all things in DkS, can be dangerous if you're unprepared. This could also be a reference to the time it can take people to find a Vagrant.

    "Take care you must, lest more you drop."

    You have to be careful, because if you die you'll drop more Souls.


    Hint #1:
    The "Ring" mentioned, is a fragile thing.


    Obviously a reference to the Ring/Rare Ring of Sacrifice, the quotation marks where there to both show that it was a word taken directly from the Riddle, as well as make people think it might not be a Ring-ring, to throw them off track a little bit.

    Hint #2:
    The answer to the Riddle can be found in an optional, but popular, part of the game.


    This refers to Online Play, which is entirely optional but extremely popular. I made sure to use the word "Part" rather than "Area" so that "Online" made more sense than something like "The DLC"


    I know that a lot of you wouldn't have gotten to that answer from the Riddle I gave, as recently I learned that the information on the Wiki I used as a base for my Riddle is actually incorrect. Apparently the number of Souls dropped have no influence on the spawning of a Vagrant, and it's completely related to discarded/lost items.

    I thought that the answer could still be found as someone's "Longshot" guess, or perhaps by someone who's not as familiar with the game, so I gave it a few more days before revealing the answer. I hope people aren't too disappointed, and if nothing else should learn from my mistake "Don't trust the wiki, use your own experiences".
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    Post by Animaaal Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:55 am

    Well, idc...... Prostration

    If what you say about your misinformation is true then it matters not. Bravo man.

    If you confused the information, then oh well. I wouldn't be upset about that, but I might have revealed the answer right away though.

    Hell a small mistake woulda mattered not in say a riddle contest or something. Heck I thought the explanation was pretty awesome.

    I also gotta say is if you're sure it wasn't mentioned before and were actually disciplined enough to track that mess then %$#@ing....

    ... Prostration Prostration Prostration
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    Post by Zyrrashijn Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:03 am

    Look Skyward awww, good job man, that riddle kept me busy. Bow
    But i would never have guessed the vagrant, just because the "fearsome trial"-line. Its a matter of perspective. I've met several vagrants and they have never been a serious threat to me.
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    Post by Zephryl Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:07 am

    Zyrrashijn wrote: Look Skyward awww, good job man, that riddle kept me busy. Bow
    But i would never have guessed the vagrant, just because the "fearsome trial"-line. Its a matter of perspective. I've met several vagrants and they have never been a serious threat to me.

    Yeah~ I think I posted that that line was a matter of perspective as my third hint somewhere, but I couldn't find it again >.<
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    Post by Zyrrashijn Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:16 am

    I've always been struggling to find something in here, the thread became quite chaotic since all that cross-guessing.
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:00 pm

    Look Skyward /i cant believe no one said vagrant, including me Look Skyward

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    Post by Zephryl Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:06 pm

    Oh_the_Humanity wrote: Look Skyward /i cant believe no one said vagrant, including me Look Skyward

    amazing riddle Prostration

    Hehe thanks~

    Yeah I was honestly surprised that nobody just took a wild swing with Vagrant, especially since when I made the Riddle there were at least two topics about Vagrants on the front page of General.
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    Post by twilightwarwolf Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:32 pm

    nice gotta say that does work and was a great riddle. note to self beware zeph's riddles
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    Post by morte Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:17 pm

    I hereby motion that we dub Zephryl "Lord of Riddles" as he clearly possesses a fifth lord soul.
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    Post by Animaaal Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:45 pm

    I hate to burst your guys bubble, but the correct answer was posted in #369.
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    Post by IV_Mark_VI Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:50 pm

    Is it a good riddle when it doesn't make sense? Dropping souls doesn't create a vagrant, plus the fearsome trial is not for you.

    YOu can die 1000 times and you don't encounter your own vagrants.
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    Post by Zephryl Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:55 am

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Is it a good riddle when it doesn't make sense? Dropping souls doesn't create a vagrant, plus the fearsome trial is not for you.

    YOu can die 1000 times and you don't encounter your own vagrants.

    Each part of the Riddle was about a different aspect of the Vagrant, which is why I would've accepted anything to do with Vagrants as the asnwer, rather than just "Creating a Vagrant"

    But yeah, I understand the concern about the Souls part, and like I said, I was working on info from the Wiki that I couldn't confirm firsthand, and I've certainly learnt my lesson.

    So, I think that if the information had been correct, it could be considered a good riddle... I think even now it might be able to be considered good, it just has to be considered broken as well.


    Edit:
    Animaal, while that was a great answer that I'm sure can be applied to every single Riddle, it was not the answer I was looking for lol!
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    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:30 pm

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Is it a good riddle when it doesn't make sense? Dropping souls doesn't create a vagrant, plus the fearsome trial is not for you.

    YOu can die 1000 times and you don't encounter your own vagrants.

    Yes, also vagrants or the creation of vagrants have nothing to do with any ring, or even pvp. Vagrants are unique to online play, but not necessarily pvp. However, a boss could very well cause a vagrant to appear.

    The only real hint would be the optional part, if you got 'online play' from that you could eventually get to vagrant if you were locked in a room for a week. Honestly, had I thought of that I would have quickly dismissed it.

    I really don't mean to pile on, I just want to point out that we might want to temper the "king of riddles" talk. Especially, since we may have a queen soon...
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:40 pm

    I think samurai's was better, but I had way more fun with Zeph's.
    Nevertheless we shouldn't talk any smack about Zeph's riddle.
    He wasn't trolling us. I don't think he did anything wrong.
    I've got a riddle of my own, but Im going to wait until it's my turn.
    Speaking of, maybe we should make a list of people who want to post there riddle, so when one is solved the next on the list get's to post there's.
    What do you all think?
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    Post by Animaaal Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:54 pm

    Had Zeph's information been correct, I think the way he put it together was very creative, especially the fearsome trial relating to farming/looking/searching/ for something over and over and over....reminds meof the pure bladestone in Demon's Souls lol.

    I think the only thing he did wrong was not reveal what was going on as soon as he realized....woulda cleared things up so to speak.

    But ya, I dont think he was trolling at all.

    I didn't enjoy it because of the structure of this thread...there is none. I'm not coming here on a regular basis and sifting through all this anymore.

    It's way to tedious. The only way a thread like this would work, is if the author of a riddle is constantly posting all answers given and the poem they wrote so the reader has easy access.

    That or the op keeps it all organized.

    If you make a list of people who want to submit riddles, then you're just going to have to keep looking for it as well.

    This kinda thread only works if the op is the one submitting the riddles, or the participants overtake the organization process.

    my 2 sense.

    good luck guys

    ***EDIT***

    Bye "didn't enjoy it". I didn't mean at all, aaat aaall. I totally enjoyed it. Just not so much later is all.
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    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:44 am

    Animaaal wrote:I think the only thing he did wrong was not reveal what was going on as soon as he realized....woulda cleared things up so to speak.

    But ya, I dont think he was trolling at all.

    Totally agree. To be clear; it never even crossed my mind that he was trolling.

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