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    Post by Spurgun Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:39 pm

    it is a lot worse than i thought. i am not using any heavy armor, no phantoms, i always bow and i am just there to fight 1v1 (sometimes 1v2 when several spirits invade at the same time) at least 50% of the time they wait for another spirit/spam WoG/are flipping mask tanks and so on. one time when i bowed i took a soul spear and chaos fireball in the face simultaneously.
    i know that most of the hosts are just as bad(or worse) but if i am there and want a duel couldn't you at least try? or am i in the wrong place for duels?
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    Post by barecanvas Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:44 pm

    Forest is only for farmers.
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    Post by Gol Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:48 pm

    It depends, I fought a guy cosplayed as ornstein today, it was fun and I was invaded several times during the fight, each time he stopped and let me kill the invader.

    And yesterday I got 2 good fights too.
    But yeah, it's very rare, I just got lucky.
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    Post by Brokewilly Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:03 pm

    hellooo wrote:it is a lot worse than i thought. i am not using any heavy armor, no phantoms, i always bow and i am just there to fight 1v1 (sometimes 1v2 when several spirits invade at the same time) at least 50% of the time they wait for another spirit/spam WoG/are flipping mask tanks and so on. one time when i bowed i took a soul spear and chaos fireball in the face simultaneously.
    i know that most of the hosts are just as bad(or worse) but if i am there and want a duel couldn't you at least try? or am i in the wrong place for duels?

    Sorry for your bad experiences hosting in the Forest. But you have to realize most hosts are in the forest to farm hunters using gangbang tactics mostly - the tactics the hunters used against you simply reflects what a forest hunter experiences on daily basis (I guess we have a form of PTSD:x ). The forest is not the best place for 1v1 PVP since you can also be invaded by red phantoms so you may have multiple enemies trying to kill you at once.

    You may want to try PW, Kiln, etc if you want a pure 1v1. Or if you are dead set on the fighting in the forest you may want to hide first then PM the invader and say you want a honorable 1v1 - I would say most hunters would gladly oblige since most of the time it is fight for our lives (i.e. 2v1, 3v1, 2v1v1, etc) when we invade.

    Hopefully this helps.
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    Post by Spurgun Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:12 pm

    Brokewilly wrote:

    Sorry for your bad experiences hosting in the Forest. But you have to realize most hosts are in the forest to farm hunters using gangbang tactics mostly - the tactics the hunters used against you simply reflects what a forest hunter experiences on daily basis (I guess we have a form of PTSD:x ). The forest is not the best place for 1v1 PVP since you can also be invaded by red phantoms so you may have multiple enemies trying to kill you at once.

    You may want to try PW, Kiln, etc if you want a pure 1v1. Or if you are dead set on the fighting in the forest you may want to hide first then PM the invader and say you want a honorable 1v1 - I would say most hunters would gladly oblige since most of the time it is fight for our lives (i.e. 2v1, 3v1, 2v1v1, etc) when we invade.

    Hopefully this helps.

    i don’t have anything against fighting 1v2 most of the times it is fun. i just think that since they experience it very often they could refrain from doing the same thing. i have had a lot of fun and fair battles, both 1v1, 1v2 and 1v1v1. would love to fight against you sometime

    ps. kenpaichi is awesome
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    Post by strangejoy Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:12 pm

    Welcome to the forest! Dueling in the forest is somewhat rare. Most of us who come here are attracted to the chaos and lack of rules. Nonetheless, as an invader, I would absolutely engage you in a 1v1 duel, and I'll also kill other invaders who interupt us (I'm a DW forest invader at the moment, which gives me more flexibility with respect to other phantoms). But I also enjoy 2v1 (with me as the 1), 2v2, 2v1v1 (one forest phantom and one DW), and occassional 3v1 (again, with me as the 1) as long as I'm not attacked at my spawn point. If all you want is 1v1, you're in the wrong place! But look at it this way: you can't get attacked at your spawning location, and you at least have a couple of minutes to find the invader before your double-teamed. That's better than what invaders get.

    Enjoy the madness.:cyclops:
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:28 pm

    Welcome to the jungle music, playing in the background...This is mayhem here we have all sorts and yes mostly gangs but hey you will get much experience believe me if you stay at it...

    I just put that song on it suits so well, currently kicking some butt there come join!
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    Post by ted1023 Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:32 pm

    I have been hosting for a while now.. Lately it seem the hunters are just as bad if not worst now than the hosts. I have been in the forest these last to days and what I am finding is only a few of the hunter will engage you 1 on 1.. Alot of them just run off until a fellow Hunter arrives just to come running in on the gange bang.. I have also run ito hunters waiting for me to finish the fight just to back stab me the min its over.lol.. But I have had some good 1on1 battles.. it just seems the hunters have become just as effective at jumping as the hosts. But I still Love the forest.
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:36 pm

    I hope I run into you, I love duels in the forest as a Hunter. I will every now and then invade and have a phantom 1v1'ing against a host and I'll just sit back and watch. After the phantom dies I'll let the host heal, bow, and join in myself. If they die I bow and just wait to be kicked out. Rarely I will watch and wait and in the course of the fight the host will spam WoG and when they get a moment flask up, then I'll Talisman and run in because obviously they don't want a fair duel.
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:37 pm

    ted1023 wrote:I have been hosting for a while now.. Lately it seem the hunters are just as bad if not worst now than the hosts. I have been in the forest these last to days and what I am finding is only a few of the hunter will engage you 1 on 1.. Alot of them just run off until a fellow Hunter arrives just to come running in on the gange bang.. I have also run ito hunters waiting for me to finish the fight just to back stab me the min its over.lol.. But I have had some good 1on1 battles.. it just seems the hunters have become just as effective at jumping as the hosts. But I still Love the forest.

    sent you a msg on psn check it...
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:37 pm

    Tolvo wrote:I hope I run into you, I love duels in the forest as a Hunter. I will every now and then invade and have a phantom 1v1'ing against a host and I'll just sit back and watch. After the phantom dies I'll let the host heal, bow, and join in myself. If they die I bow and just wait to be kicked out. Rarely I will watch and wait and in the course of the fight the host will spam WoG and when they get a moment flask up, then I'll Talisman and run in because obviously they don't want a fair duel.

    Add me on psn same name as here, I am there in the forest right now...
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:40 pm

    Yesuurd wrote:
    Tolvo wrote:I hope I run into you, I love duels in the forest as a Hunter. I will every now and then invade and have a phantom 1v1'ing against a host and I'll just sit back and watch. After the phantom dies I'll let the host heal, bow, and join in myself. If they die I bow and just wait to be kicked out. Rarely I will watch and wait and in the course of the fight the host will spam WoG and when they get a moment flask up, then I'll Talisman and run in because obviously they don't want a fair duel.

    Add me on psn same name as here, I am there in the forest right now...

    Oh god an actual duel! Hopefully I won't do too awful, I love to duel but I'm so used to fighting farmers I feel like I've forgotten how to 1v1 properly, expect a lot of stupid mistakes on my part. happy
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:41 pm

    Tolvo wrote:
    Yesuurd wrote:
    Tolvo wrote:I hope I run into you, I love duels in the forest as a Hunter. I will every now and then invade and have a phantom 1v1'ing against a host and I'll just sit back and watch. After the phantom dies I'll let the host heal, bow, and join in myself. If they die I bow and just wait to be kicked out. Rarely I will watch and wait and in the course of the fight the host will spam WoG and when they get a moment flask up, then I'll Talisman and run in because obviously they don't want a fair duel.

    Add me on psn same name as here, I am there in the forest right now...

    Oh god an actual duel! Hopefully I won't do too awful, I love to duel but I'm so used to fighting farmers I feel like I've forgotten how to 1v1 properly, expect a lot of stupid mistakes on my part. happy

    only one way to find out what SL are you cuz I am 213
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:42 pm

    Yesuurd wrote:

    only one way to find out what SL are you cuz I am 213

    I am only SL 89, but I'm pretty sure I can still invade upwards so I think that shouldn't be a problem.
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    Post by Bape Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:46 pm

    You have no problem killing them for their souls/humanity but if they kill you they get a few souls, equally 1v2 is a even especially since you have mobs on yourside if you use them, or you can wait for a partner for 2v2.
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    Post by Brokewilly Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:48 pm

    If you are on the XBox then its a date;) - my gamertag and handle on this board are exactly same. I invade the forest at all times of the day/night - gotta clock those hours at the office!! If you are on the PS3 then I'm sure one of the other forest hunters on that console would gladly oblidge you. Forest hunters do enjoy a 1v1 from time to time - allows us to fight in a little more of a relaxed state (I'm not saying you are push over though).

    Kenpachi is my fav - his lust for battle, especially long ones, is legendary!

    Hopefully, I will be seeing u in the forest - straight-up 1v1 (unless a red spirit invades then its everyman for himself!). I will even make sure to PM any other forest hunter that invades to wait their turn:D .
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    Post by strangejoy Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:52 pm

    If you're on psn, I'm more than glad to fight 1v1 or any other permutation you can think of tongue . However, I'm only in the forest at night (after 9:30 est). If you hang around there, you're bound to be invaded by me eventually.
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    Post by ted1023 Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:54 pm

    Yesuurd wrote:
    ted1023 wrote:I have been hosting for a while now.. Lately it seem the hunters are just as bad if not worst now than the hosts. I have been in the forest these last to days and what I am finding is only a few of the hunter will engage you 1 on 1.. Alot of them just run off until a fellow Hunter arrives just to come running in on the gange bang.. I have also run ito hunters waiting for me to finish the fight just to back stab me the min its over.lol.. But I have had some good 1on1 battles.. it just seems the hunters have become just as effective at jumping as the hosts. But I still Love the forest.

    I'am actually at work ..lol.

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    Post by Brokewilly Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:26 pm

    ted1023 wrote:I have been hosting for a while now.. Lately it seem the hunters are just as bad if not worst now than the hosts. I have been in the forest these last to days and what I am finding is only a few of the hunter will engage you 1 on 1.. Alot of them just run off until a fellow Hunter arrives just to come running in on the gange bang.. I have also run ito hunters waiting for me to finish the fight just to back stab me the min its over.lol.. But I have had some good 1on1 battles.. it just seems the hunters have become just as effective at jumping as the hosts. But I still Love the forest.

    I would very much like to follow Tolvo's rules but when I invade the forest I pretty much have a kill everything mentality (unless a GL also invades - then I'm quickly dropping an EoD for his troubles).

    I pretty much follow the lead of the host if possible. If they bow - then run up to the open area in front of Alvina's house then I know its a 1v1 so honor rules the day. I do have some sportmanship left in me - it just the many instances of being brutally attacked by farmers that has forever altered the inner psyche:x .Trust in the forest will get you killed very quickly (got backstabbed this morning by a red spirit, with SLB coated sword, who I assisted taking down a camper. I even let him have the killing blow and he still back stabbed me when I bowed as the camper died) - I only trust a wall at my back and a forest hunter at my side.
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    Post by eneq Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:58 pm

    Invading is always a problem due to farmers, hosting is the only way I play the forest.

    That said there has been a lot of phantoms these days that wait for a 2-on-1 setup, which I don't mind and depending on their setup/tactics I can make use of the choke points etc that are available.

    However lately it has been a lot of TWoP, WoG, BS gang bangs. Worst I had was one who just threw PW on him and ran up and started to spam WoG, cant do much than just laugh.

    So in essence the forest is a lot about dying but you'll always get a challenge and it feels good when you come out on top.
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:46 pm

    Brokewilly wrote:

    I would very much like to follow Tolvo's rules but when I invade the forest I pretty much have a kill everything mentality (unless a GL also invades - then I'm quickly dropping an EoD for his troubles).

    I pretty much follow the lead of the host if possible. If they bow - then run up to the open area in front of Alvina's house then I know its a 1v1 so honor rules the day. I do have some sportmanship left in me - it just the many instances of being brutally attacked by farmers that has forever altered the inner psyche:x .Trust in the forest will get you killed very quickly (got backstabbed this morning by a red spirit, with SLB coated sword, who I assisted taking down a camper. I even let him have the killing blow and he still back stabbed me when I bowed as the camper died) - I only trust a wall at my back and a forest hunter at my side.

    Sadly even my rules fail at times. Such as I'm so used to farmers if I ever, ever see a phantom, I instantly assume Farmers and have trouble remembering people just might have trouble with Sif and need help. As you have said, it's like us farmers suffer from PTSD, though I've never actually had an issue with a dark wraith when invading except against Gravelords who have one to help them kill people. And that's only been in the burg.
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:13 pm

    strangejoy wrote:If you're on psn, I'm more than glad to fight 1v1 or any other permutation you can think of tongue . However, I'm only in the forest at night (after 9:30 est). If you hang around there, you're bound to be invaded by me eventually.

    Hey add me too on PSN, me and tolvo tried to connect but couldn't.

    I dueled ted1023 we had a blast, THANKS TED AGAIN U DA MAN!!!
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    Post by Spurgun Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:39 am

    Tolvo wrote:I hope I run into you, I love duels in the forest as a Hunter. I will every now and then invade and have a phantom 1v1'ing against a host and I'll just sit back and watch. After the phantom dies I'll let the host heal, bow, and join in myself. If they die I bow and just wait to be kicked out. Rarely I will watch and wait and in the course of the fight the host will spam WoG and when they get a moment flask up, then I'll Talisman and run in because obviously they don't want a fair duel.

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    Post by strangejoy Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:13 am

    Yesuurd wrote:
    strangejoy wrote:If you're on psn, I'm more than glad to fight 1v1 or any other permutation you can think of tongue . However, I'm only in the forest at night (after 9:30 est). If you hang around there, you're bound to be invaded by me eventually.

    Hey add me too on PSN, me and tolvo tried to connect but couldn't.

    I dueled ted1023 we had a blast, THANKS TED AGAIN U DA MAN!!!

    Adding you now (psn: eight_way_santa). I'll try to be on tonight after 9:30. Is Sif still alive for you? If so, I can drop an RSS in his room. It's an awesome place to duel as long as you don't go near the giant sword.

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