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    Finally understand the term "forest gankers".

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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:53 am

    I bought DS last summer and played until I reached Sif and then the fall semester started and I wasn't able to play because of school studies. I graduated in December and I am back playing again and have progressed but never really did much of anything with the online part of the game. So, the other night I put on the cat covenant ring for the first time. That is when I began to understand the threads talking about the gankers in the forest. I am level 70 on my first play through and obviously haven't put enough effort into upgrading weapons and armor because I stood no chance against one of the people I encountered, much less the two or more people I was consistently going up against. I have never seen some of the weapons and armor that the majority of the people I encountered had.

    My questions are this:

    1) I see no reason even messing with the PvP aspect of the game at this point because of the imbalance between me and the people I am supposed to fight. I was getting killed with one or two hits everytime. Am I missing something?

    2) I only encountered one person who fought me one on one. Every other time it was me against several people that obviously could tell by my armor and weapons that I was a low level guy, but that didn't stop them from both attacking me at the same time. What enjoyment do those people get out of that?
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    Post by deadagain Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:58 am

    If you want duels the forest is the wrong place. The forest is the old west anything goes and for the most part we like it like that. The only thing your missing is experience and gear. I recomend finishing the game first and try pvp in ng+. You will be better equipped or you could try the player help and trade section for gear.
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    Post by Sentiel Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:02 pm

    1. You'll still die in 1-2 hits in PvP, the point is to be able to do that to your opponent as well. The PvP part of Dark Souls has quite some depth to it and once you submerge into the waters of killing other players, emerging back on surface is impossible. You have been warned. big grin

    Anyway. If you're interested in PvP I recommend reading this article in your spare time. It's very long, but it's aslo very informative and will help you get started and answer a lot of your questions.

    2. They enjoy it. Enjoy your grief. Also, they suck at this game so much that they can't score a win by themselves, so they rely on numbers. In most cases it's the only way for them to win.
    That's the only explanation to ganking I can come up with. I have next to no experience doing it myself.
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    Post by GenericUsername Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:09 pm

    I disagree about the host sucking and needing phantom help. I just went into the forest to actually hold my ground and PvP and ended up getting invaded by two or more people who were already OP enough without having backup invaders.

    It goes both ways.
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    Post by densetsushun Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:14 pm

    I think ganking has less to do with lack of skill, gear of confidence, and more an insane need to win at all cost. These people are usually the same type in real life, those who can't stand losing and will turn almost everything into a competition where there are no rules and winner takes all. To them, ganking is just a way to prove their superiority in yet another area.
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    Post by GrinTwist Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:23 pm

    I'd recommend first getting used to a fighting style that you like to play as. Do you want to go around using a spear, shotel, or a longsword? Find that out before you do anything else and then when you are finally able to find a moveset that you favor upgrade that weapon to +15.

    Also if you are new to PVP I would seriously recommend you invade somewhere else (maybe as a darkmoon or darkwraith if those options are still available). If not I'd recommend getting to those on NG+ if you can. The forest isn't a place of honor it's a place where people fight and gank because they want a challenge or some fun. That's partially the reason for gankers being there they're probably just having fun with friends and seeing how far they can get before they both get killed. It's rarely the matter of them griefing unless if it's not in the forest.
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    Post by Tolvo Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:43 pm

    If you also wish to perservere in the forest anyway, there are tips and tricks for fighting against gankers.

    https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t2307-for-the-glory-of-alvina

    This thread features many tips for fighting gankers.

    In the resources thread you can also find various threads about PvP and videos.

    I hope you enjoy playing man and start to kill people yourself.

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