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    Should SL 55 be standard PVP level?

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    Post by Seignar Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:25 pm

    Making invasion builds, it got me thinking. Should 55 be the standard PVP level instead of 100? I know this game is "too old" for us to change that and with the sequel coming in. But it is something I would like to discuss. It is easier to reach and it is harder to establish a build with no weakness due to your allowed stat points being halved. If you want your maxed damage then you really need to dedicate points and leave yourself vulnerable.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:28 pm

    Tell that to my DGA build. Well What is it

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=344986113891662945

    Gets roll bsed, dies. sad
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    Post by Seignar Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:44 pm

    You sure Large Weapon with 0 poise is viable? Are you going hollow?
    I would just come in with a Dark Silver Tracer...

    P.S: Fast Roll is overrated, Medium is totally viable.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:50 pm

    Low HP tank. How can a tank have low HP??? SL 55 is for elemental Dex builds seig.

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    Post by Seignar Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:08 pm

    SL 55 is for elemental Dex builds seig.
    Oh really?
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    Post by Jester's Tears Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:14 pm

    Nah. I personaly think level 350 should be a Standard. Fast Rolling Havels with Dragonslayer spear and Silver Knight Shield seems pretty balanced >:3 Shrug
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:22 pm

    Seignar wrote:
    SL 55 is for elemental Dex builds seig.
    Oh really?
    Yeah. Sad, but true.
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    Post by Seignar Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:31 pm

    Have you ever struck a full plated man in Giant's Armor with over 300 defense in all categories with an elemental Katana? You'll need 10 hits and 4 to stagger. I'll only need 5 and 1 to stagger. Maybe less, considering your defenses...
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    Post by The Letter X Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:11 pm

    I'll just answer your question and say no because SL 55 builds would not lead to more variety. Everyone would use elemental katana and claymores. I don't care if mid-roll is viable or not - people will still use DEX/elemental builds.


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    Post by User1 Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:11 pm

    Well, considering there is an upcoming event focused around sl55, I guess it should be a main PvP level. Mind you, you could say that about any event.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:35 pm

    An SL where I can make a viable Grant build with similar HP to a Dex build is the perfect SL for me.
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    Post by RANT Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:03 pm

    hell no!!! NOONE would use str builds anymore, it would all be elemental katanas(its already bad as it is) yes the build you posted is viable but with med roll anyone can just hit and run your *** if youre not careful, if you meet someone as skilled as you the odds are against you.
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    Post by reim0027 Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:28 pm

    No. SL 55 has its place. But, 100 is better, IMO. Especially with heavy Str weapons.
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    Post by BLA1NE Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:18 am

    Yup, 55 is good for invading and short-notice new build making. But for PvP (as in duels) it's too low, inhibits variety. I like 80, 100, or 120.
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    Post by Emergence Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:24 am

    I like it for our events for quick building because we like to see fresh new looks for these things, but it is a bit limiting for a standard default meta.
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    Post by Rifter7 Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:42 am

    maybe if elemental weapons where still overpowered..

    pvp sl actually used to be 60-80 with duels at anor londo for a while if anyone even remembers that..
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    Post by User1 Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:45 am

    I remember the old days....

    Ninja flipping full Havel's wearers. Good times...
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    Post by Rifter7 Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:47 am

    was kids wearing fog rings and using lightning uchis and invincible shield buffs for me.. sprinkle in some gc's that hit like a truck too for good measure.
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    Post by User1 Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:48 am

    Or even better. Crystal Ring shield with Lightning Uchi +5. No boss was a challenge. I hated the fog ring, backstabs were everywhere, since you could'nt get a damn hit on any of the people wearing them.
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    Post by Rifter7 Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:11 am

    oh yeahh.. that shield..

    was pretty bad in pvp tho at least.

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