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    Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:20 am

    I'm making a sorcerer and I'd like to be able to melee when casting isn't an option, what's a good weapon for a low level sorcerer? I currently have 14 str and dex and 20 int, and I'm wielding a Magic Estoc, but I'd like something with either strike or slash damage. I've traveled across Lordran but haven't rung a single bell of awakening yet(hell, I've only killed Pinwheel and Taurus silly).
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Sentiel on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:23 am

    Anything elemental will do you a good service.
    Since nubwheel is dead, you've explored The Catacombs, so go to Vamos and make a Fire weapon. That combined with your spells, should take care of most of your enemies.

    With 14/14 you can use MNAY weapons, the choice is yours, really.
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:31 am

    Yeah, I was considering using the great scythe, would you recommend fire over magic? I'm thinking magic may pay off in the long run, but I definitely don't mind the power fire gives early on.


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Zephryl on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:40 am

    Shotel or Quealag's Furysword could be options. Shotel can bypass the shield of turtleing enemies, and the Furysword is incredibly quick, and the alternate kick move can be used to do a little damage and give you a bit of space.


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:47 am

    Shotel isn't really an option until I get to Sen's sad


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Zephryl on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:54 am

    densetsushun wrote:Shotel isn't really an option until I get to Sen's sad

    That's quite a good point, hehe.

    Well... the only other thing I can think of for your area, would be to kill the Undead Merchant for the Uchigatana.

    Edit: It has some bleed, which can be useful~ Not sure exactly how much though
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Sentiel on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:59 am

    densetsushun wrote:Yeah, I was considering using the great scythe, would you recommend fire over magic? I'm thinking magic may pay off in the long run, but I definitely don't mind the power fire gives early on.
    Magic weapons are awesome, but you would need more than 20 Int to get the best out of them.

    Great Scythe is great for PvE and PvP alike, so it's a good bet. You can also try one of the sraight and curved swords as well.

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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:00 am

    Zephryl wrote:
    That's quite a good point, hehe.

    Well... the only other thing I can think of for your area, would be to kill the Undead Merchant for the Uchigatana.

    Edit: It has some bleed, which can be useful~ Not sure exactly how much though
    The weight and bleed is the same as the Great Scythe, in which case the range of that weapon is more favorable to the kati

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    Magic weapons are awesome, but you would need more than 20 Int to get the best out of them.

    Great Scythe is great for PvE and PvP alike, so it's a good bet. You can also try one of the sraight and curved swords as well.

    Well, I suppose it's a good thing I'm a battlemage then silly

    If I'm going to make another magic weapon, how many enemies have decent to high magic defense before the Lord Soul areas?

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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by BagerX2 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:06 am

    Lightning great scythe +5 is pretty good. I used it on my sl 15 pyro until I decided to level up.


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:09 am

    BagerX2 wrote:Lightning great scythe +5 is pretty good. I used it on my sl 15 pyro until I decided to level up.
    Again, not a viable option for now until Anor Londo silly Besides, I'm planning on giving this guy the horny moonlight and the MGS anyway, though one can never go wrong with a good lightning weapon.
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Sentiel on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:14 am

    densetsushun wrote:
    Sentiel wrote:
    Magic weapons are awesome, but you would need more than 20 Int to get the best out of them.

    Great Scythe is great for PvE and PvP alike, so it's a good bet. You can also try one of the sraight and curved swords as well.

    Well, I suppose it's a good thing I'm a battlemage then silly

    If I'm going to make another magic weapon, how many enemies have decent to high magic defense before the Lord Soul areas?
    Can't think of any right now.
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:17 am

    In that case, I think I might go for a Magic Great Scythe. Thanks for the opinions big grin


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by BagerX2 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:22 am

    edit; never mind question answered
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:25 am

    You can buy a shotel from Shiva (assuming you haven't beaten b-town).


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Zephryl on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:27 am

    As far as Magic Def goes, the only ones I can think of are the Crystal Golems, which you can taunt the Hydra into killing if you have to.

    Possibly the large Knights in Anor Londo, not sure if they actually have high Magic Def or just block everything with their stupidly large shields.


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Hue on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:59 am

    Zephryl wrote:As far as Magic Def goes, the only ones I can think of are the Crystal Golems, which you can taunt the Hydra into killing if you have to.

    Possibly the large Knights in Anor Londo, not sure if they actually have high Magic Def or just block everything with their stupidly large shields.

    They just bock everything, i'm pretty sure about that.

    Does the shotel go past the shield?
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:06 am

    Hachouma wrote:
    Does the shotel go past the shield?
    I think the Shotel's R2 goes around the shield, but I'm not sure if it works against enemies 1.5x your size.

    Regarding the Sentinels, it's absurd what they can block with their shields. The shields don't have 100% damage reduction on everything and yet they can block every damage type sad Luckily the giant circumcision position helps with that silly

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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Animaaal on Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:57 pm

    Make a chaos longsword until you figure out what you wanna do. On my "mage" builds, I always make a chaos short sword. But thats because I only have 9 strength and 11 deterity at the time. It gets me by just fine.

    I think you might be able to go to Painted and get Velkas in the meantime. Fun weapon.
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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:29 pm

    Chaos takes too long for me to wanna invest into it, because then I'd be able to get weapons that are better for my build.


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Animaaal on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:38 pm

    densetsushun wrote:Chaos takes too long for me to wanna invest into it, because then I'd be able to get weapons that are better for my build.

    Ya its takes a little longer. I usually don't go past sl 50 on a mage build until ng+ or ng++ depending on how I attune.

    I just make chaos because they are stronger than lightning or fire weapons. If you take your build to ng++ at sl 50, you'll want the extra power. If not, then a fire weapon is fine.

    Also, I usually spend my regular slabs on armor before anything. I find little use for a red slab outside of a chaos weapon, so its an easy choice to make as compared to trying to make a +5 lightning, which I think you said you're not gonna do anyway.

    Doesn't really matter I guess. Making any elemental weapon will help you along before you decide what it is you want to do in the end.

    The smartest thing you could do is, use caution, ask questions and have patience....which it sounds like you're doing.

    Good job on not being hasty.
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    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:54 pm

    I've come to find that a battlemage isn't as easily made in DkS as it was in DeS, so I was wondering what I could use as a melee weapon until I can pulverize my enemies otherwise silly


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by LD_Soze on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:01 pm

    I have a lvl 20ish mage and a lvl 20ish pyro. I use Quelogg's, chaos claymore and chaos balder. Quelogg is my favorite at that level.
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    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:20 pm

    Oh, I feel I should clarify, I don't intend to gimp him, I'm just looking for something else next to my Magic Estoc while I work my way towards eventually getting the MGS.

    I will get Kellog's furysword, always a handy weapon.


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    Re: Good weapon for a sl 25 Battlemage?

    Post by Samurainova on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:25 pm

    Isn't everyone in dark souls a battlemage one way or another?

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    Post by densetsushun on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:31 pm

    It depends on how you look at it, my personal definition is a mage who also uses melee weapons but relies heavily on magic.


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