DS noob. Need some advice

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    DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by jimmyc0341 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:58 pm

    So i'm kinda new to DS and I was wondering a few things.
    1.) When creating a character/build, at what sl should I stop leveling and if I should only concentrate on certain attributes and leave others alone.
    2.) How to get Havel's ring. In my 1st playthrough when i beat the Havel Night he never dropped his ring or his armor set. Do I have to kill him a certain way or are there random drops?
    3.) How do you get Ornstein and Smough's weapons/armor sets? I heard that the merchant in the depths sells them at Firelink after you beat them but when i beat them he was only selling his own set of armor.
    4.) How do I get the chaos fireball to work? When i joined the chaos covenant i had a +7 pyromancy but couldn't use the fireball at all while in Chaos cov.
    5.)How do you get lautrec's armor? I killed him and never got his armor.
    6.)How do I defend against higher level invaders w/the best armor/weapons/magic?

    I know this is alot of questions and most likely I'll be asking way more but please take into account that I'm still a noob @ DS and also new to this forum as well and any help at all would be greatly appreciated
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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:21 pm

    1:Your choice entirely. How do you play? Do you experiment with different characters? Question like that to think on. Try this to help you: https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/

    2: it should appear unless you died before getting it so I'm not sure.
    His armor is in a secret area in the room next north of the bonfire with solaire. Hit a chimeny(?) and you will find some chest with his set. Be aware that some are mimics.
    3: A man called Downhall (orDownFall) of Zena(forgot name) sells boss armor after you kill them. Though O&S it depends on who you kill last. Located first in the depths next to the door to blighttown but should move next to the body under the bridge leading to the burg. You will have to jump.

    4: Chaos pyros take two att slots so you may need more.

    5: You need to let him kill the Firelink firekeeper take a black eye orb from her corpse and travel to Anor Londo in the main chapel to use it. Kill him and you get the armor on the floor with the bonefire near Gywnrevere's(?) location.

    6: Experiment with your playstlye, talk to those who can help better than me, or use what I put for #1.


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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by EeAyEss on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:33 am

    1. If you are doing a pvp-oriented build, lvl 100 or 120 is a good cap. And, it depends on what your play-style and build set-up is.

    2. You kill Havel and he should drop his ring. Unless you two killed each other, it should be there. Also, you have to pick it up. It doesn't automatically give you the ring. It just lays there in a glowing orange ball-thing.

    3. You get Snorlax and Pikachu's armor sets by killing them. You get the option to buy the armor of the dude you killed last, i.e. killing Smough last makes Domhall(the merchant) sell Smough's armor, and killing Ornstein last makes Domhall sell Ornstein's armor.

    4. It's probably your attunement slots. They should work otherwise. At least have 2 slots open. You know how to attune magic, right?

    5. He has to kill the Firelink shrine Firekeeper first. At her little cell, there should e her clothing and a black eye orb. then you have to invade his world at Anor Londo using said orb. Kill him, and his armor will appear in the area of the bonfire after O&S(Ornstein and Smough). It's on the same floor the bonfire is on, but it's a bit back and to the right.

    6. Once again, your play-style is key here. Certain styles have certain weaknesses and strengths. Also, we need some more details. lol!
    You'll get the hang of it.

    This is all that Sorice said, so I'm just confirming that.


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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by RANT on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:58 am

    just play the game and make a high sl build, get 40 one both str and dex and try all the weapons. after you have a weapon(s)you like then you make a build.


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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by jimmyc0341 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:39 am

    Thanks guys!! I really appreciate it especially going thru each one of my questions. The only thing is is w/havel. For the record he is the knight at the bottom of the tower that leads to darkroot basin and right? Cuz if that's the correct one then I definitely didn't get his ring. he gave me his weapon(Dragon Tooth I believe?)and some souls but no ring. When I killed him he did not kill me at the same time. I also kept going back to that spot time and time again during my playthroughs but no orange light or any light for that matter. It's disappointing cuz I could really use that ring as for his armor @ Soris Ice Goldwing, what location do you mean? The location where you first meet Solaire or in another location? As for the builds your ideas are helping me. When i first started i just leveled up everything i could not knowing which attribute fit my build. i do like leveling up but i don't want to be a detriment leveling my character. i'm trying to be smarter in my 2nd playthrough(I haven't beat the game yet in my 1st playthru cuz I think I fuct up my character and the playthru)


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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by jimmyc0341 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:56 am

    I have another stupid question but it is a question that is probably important for me to know but what does each letter in the Param. Bonuses mean? I see C,E,D, and S(the most rare I think) and I know they have to do w/scaling but what do they mean when they're red,blue or white? WHat determines a weapon to scale? Should I only stick to weapons that have scaling options?


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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by Zephryl on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:01 am

    You shouldn't have gotten Havel's weapon from him... Just some Souls and his Ring. The Weapon + Armor are in a hidden room behind a Fireplace in Anor Londo.

    But Havel (Probably other enemies too) has this bug where if you kill each other, instead of you killing him and surviving, the ring won't drop.

    I believe if you highlight the weapon in your inventory and hit X, it'll have a letter next to any stat that scales with it.

    I might be wrong on that, it's been a while since I checked... But you can always check the Wiki~ (The ranks go E, D, C, B, A, S. With S being the best)
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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by Back Lot Basher on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:44 pm

    I'm sure someone here can give you a havel's ring on a build where they don't use it, or that they don't use anymore. What system are you on?
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    Re: DS noob. Need some advice

    Post by jimmyc0341 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:24 pm

    I'm on 360


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