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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:01 am

    Oh, I'm an unabashed fanboy. silly

    That thing is the definition of cool. 8)

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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:02 am

    The R2 of it is enough to use it over the normal rapier. Shame the build i'm on isn't an int or i would be using it, but i'll have to settle for the estoc


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:03 am

    That's its downside. It needs INT. No INT, no Velka's. sad

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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:07 am

    But in all fairness while not as cool as Velka's, the Estoc is a good replacement. I use it on my left hand for my PGS build so that i have a little bit of range.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:09 am

    Estoc is a fine weapon, which why I'm not arguing with its place on the list. It's basically a longsword in rapier form - very versatile weapon.

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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:11 am

    i dunno man. a rapier with an r2 you can basically roll stab doesn't sound to good to me.. i think its not worth it but i'll edit it in.

    scythes a dex scaling halberd huh... is there a speed difference?

    i gotta throw the suggestions rant said in, but like.. the blacksmith hammer or pickaxe?


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:23 am

    The Scythe and the Gargoyle halberd have movesets that can keep enemies at range, and the swipe attack on the 2nd R1 can kill BS fishers.

    And the Halberd can be roll BSed, because everyone assumes it's the only counter, like what they do to spears.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:26 am

    theyre the same moveset from what i know. whats the speed difference and range from scythe to halberd?


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:28 am

    The Scythe and Garoyle halberd have different movesets from the normal halberd


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by RANT on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:33 am

    Rifter7 wrote:i dunno man. a rapier with an r2 you can basically roll stab doesn't sound to good to me.. i think its not worth it but i'll edit it in.

    scythes a dex scaling halberd huh... is there a speed difference?

    i gotta throw the suggestions rant said in, but like.. the blacksmith hammer or pickaxe?

    smith hammer since it has infinite stunlock. i know you can toggle out but not everyone can toggle out ffast enough so you get two hits in at least.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:42 am

    the little one andre drops ye?


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:02 am

    That one, the Giant Blacksmith Hammer and the Reinforced Club can infinite stunlock. The Pickaxe seems good, but can't break 40 poise, even 2 handed.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by lextune on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:10 am

    Longsword!


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:14 am

    The only reason to go Longsword over a SSS is if going crystal since you can buy them.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by xenon_nobelium on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:17 pm

    axe: butcherknife for str builds, only downside is its weight. gargoyle tail axe for dex builds. both have awesome reach and stunlock/guardbreak capability.
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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by ExecutionerTri on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:12 pm

    FattyOfDoom wrote:
    Painting Guardian Sword is OP, not decent, OP

    this was mentioned 3 times on page 1, what makes it so OP ?

    (Not bashing just asking)


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:28 pm

    I was the one who mentioned it 3 times silly

    It's OP because it does more damage than falcion, does bleed and scales very well with dex but the only disadvantage is it's range which i've countered by having an estoc in my left hand.

    Did i meantion it's OP?


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by lextune on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:02 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:The only reason to go Longsword over a SSS is if going crystal since you can buy them.

    The SSS requires four more points in STR and DEX, if you are doing a low level elemental build, (SL50 or lower), those four points out of VIT or END are not worth the measly 8 difference in AR (for Chaos +5).


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:37 pm

    also the sss is double the weight.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:05 pm

    Looks pretty accurate.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:58 pm

    the painted guardian loses its r2 tho. that r2 is worthless... but the r1s powerfull.

    i still prefer the falchion since it can be buffed and has a useable r2.

    i added some stuff


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:48 pm

    The R2 is very good... I use it and I always catch em with a good few hits with it. But I'll have to admit when first started using I had a hard time using the R2 but it does get better with time happy


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by Animaaal on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:44 am

    Velkas still didn't make it in eh?

    What about the barbed sword? Good bleed build up, the R2 dead angles okay, and you can buff it. It has a slightly lower AR, but its minimal.

    Darkmoon bow?

    Darkhand should be in there for sure, but as a fist wep? Are you gonna put shields in, or just had no where else to put it? Claws aren't a bad fist weapon I guess.

    Nice list dude, good job. +1
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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by BLA1NE on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:49 am

    PGS is not OP. It's just very, very good! Its abysmal range is what makes it balanced. And its R2 is great: good on enemy wake-up from crit hit, or to take advantage of the extra range the attack gives you, or just to parry bait people who'd try and punish you for using it!

    My favorite off-hand weapon to complement the PGS is the Notched Whip, since it can't be parried. The PGS's only weakness is its vulnerability to getting parried, due to its total lack of range. So having the whip to punish parry spammers is crucial! Also, it bleeds, which complements the PGS's bleed. And it has decent range and speed. The whip's only drawback, in the offhand, is that it leaves you open to backstabs if you're not careful. But the PGS is great for canceling backstabs.

    It's a match made in heaven!

    The Gold Tracer is OP, though. Range, damage, speed, and outrageous bleed capabilities. Can't be buffed? Doesn't need to. I don't use it, it's boring, too OP.

    Also, Velka's is a great weapon too.


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    Re: top tier weapons in the meta atm.

    Post by AzureTear on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:51 am

    Animaaal wrote:Velkas still didn't make it in eh?

    What about the barbed sword? Good bleed build up, the R2 dead angles okay, and you can buff it. It has a slightly lower AR, but its minimal.

    Darkmoon bow?

    Darkhand should be in there for sure, but as a fist wep? Are you gonna put shields in, or just had no where else to put it? Claws aren't a bad fist weapon I guess.

    Nice list dude, good job. +1



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