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    Post by Myztyrio on Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:25 am

    Is there any way I can further optimize this build before I go ahead and finalize it by leveling? I'd like to stay somewhere between SL60-65 preferably, and I assume that 60 is definitely better if I want to be able to consistently invade in Anor Londo and Painted World?

    Eviscerator

    Currently I'm at 25 vit, 12 end, 16 str, and 39 dex. I'm gonna go ahead and level to 40 dex, but apart from that, I'd like your input and whether this is my best option. I feel that the physical defense may be a bit low. I don't wanna worry too much about magic defense, because I'm pretty sure with this setup I'll be wary enough to dodge magic, and with buffers I can simply stay away and use my bow. I assumed that it's worth trying to get the 8 poise to resist dagger locks, I don't think 31 is fully necessary. The main decision I need help with is whether this balance is best, or if I should:
    A: Stop vitality where it is and add 5 more points to endurance, wearing slightly more protective armor
    B: Decrease endurance to wearing practically nothing or using a short bow(almost as much damage, less range) and no dagger and a dark hand rather than heater shield, raising vitality as high as 40.

    What are my best options? Right now I feel I'm just planning on a balance, but I'm unsure that that is the best choice.

    Thank you in advance.


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    Post by Rifter7 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:27 am

    is there a reason for the weapons you use and the dragon head? or can you use anything?
    also sl 65?

    http://mmdks.com/thg


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    Post by Myztyrio on Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:07 am

    I've decided on this:

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=160304776703667151

    And for invasions.


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    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:56 am

    If you are going to use the scythe you're gonna need poise for doing the combos. The SL is too low for a pure Dex imo.


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    Post by Spurgun on Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:23 am

    Oh, mugen finally has Dragon head/torso happy
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    Post by Myztyrio on Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:26 am

    But he's called the Eviscerator. The point is to bleed the opponent using the Lifehunt Scythe, and will be mainly invading in Painted World, Anor Londo. He needs to have high bleed resist.


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    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:37 am

    Myztyrio wrote:But he's called the Eviscerator. The point is to bleed the opponent using the Lifehunt Scythe, and will be mainly invading in Painted World, Anor Londo. He needs to have high bleed resist.

    Try SL 80, not too high nor too low. Get more HP, use the Wolf Ring and the Blooshield on your back, and maybe high bleed resistance light armor.


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    Post by Myztyrio on Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:48 am

    Hmm, I just feel like I wouldn't get nearly as much invasions as I'd like at SL 80. I really want to be able to consistently invade at PWoA. Is 80 really going to be as good for that? Because I feel at 60, I can still catch people on their first or second playthrough. 80 probably wouldn't. What I could do is roll with what I have and then if the low poise is a big problem I can always level up further? Because all I'd be doing is adding vitality/endurance. Right now my strategy is going to be to whittle them down with arrows, and then go in for a running attack/bs. Be very cautious with rolling about, swing from a distance, and parry if they're being predictable. If it doesn't work I could level to 80 for the sake of the 31/53 poise?

    Right now I'm thinking of using this at 60: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=d2FycmlvciwzMCw4LDE5LDE2LDQwLDExLDksOSwwLDAsMjksMjksNTEsMzEsOSwxNDUsOTksMTA3LDE3Myxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsMSwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sbGFyZ2Usd29vZGVuLDEsMCww

    It allows me to have both weapons, a solid shield, long-range bow, high bleed resist, and about 200 physical defense. If this isn't really optimized for the SL 60 version, let me know where I can tweak it.


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    Post by hageshisa on Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:20 am

    If you wanna roll with a 40 dex build you will need sl80 ish.


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    Post by Myztyrio on Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:58 pm

    Any comments? :oops:


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    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:15 pm

    That one looks much better. winking


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    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:33 am

    If it were me, I would do this instead. It's only slightly different, but I think would be a tad more effective. The extra strength wasn't really doing much for you IMO, plus if you're going to be using the Lifehunt, you'll want some kind of bleed protection. I also figure if what you're trying to do is cause bleed, you might as well have a secondary like Priscilla's Dagger or the Claw to supplement that.

    I also don't think you should have any trouble in the PW at SL80. I usually go there after I kill O&S, which usually places me somewhere in the 70's I'd think.


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    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:21 pm

    I actually did add the bloodshield to my latest version silly

    Also, I feel that with a scythe and an iffy weapon like the claw, I'd end up feeling very unsafe. I like to have multiple options, and if the option is there to really punish mistakes with a bs/riposte, it's preferable. I may try offhanding a bleed weapon though, the thing is it will also cost more in terms of weight than the dagger. My strength is already at 16, so that isn't/won't be something I'll change.


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    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:26 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=289133556530178741

    This is the version I'm currently working toward. Is it worth putting the extra couple points into endurance so that I can wield Pharis' rather than the short bow? It would mean slightly less vit.


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    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:50 pm

    Unless you're planning on using a bow for anything other than PvE utility, I'd say don't really bother. The slight damage boost you'd get from the BBoP I wouldn't think is worth sacrificing vitality for. At the same time going SL81 for an extra endurance point wouldn't really hurt you at all, and you'd open up access to all the other normal sized bows.


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    Post by Myztyrio on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:11 pm

    It'd take more than just one level. Also, no the bow is for pvp use.


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    Post by PlasticandRage on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:10 am

    If you're PvPing, you know the Composite does way more damage right? The only thing I use the BBoP for is sniping with feather arrows with my stealth toon.


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