is the scaling any good or is elemental the way to go or are they just bad altogether?
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are claws any good?
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are they viable in pvp
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drmuto- Regular
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are claws any good?
pretty much wanna know if claws are any good, never used em and was curious on them.
is the scaling any good or is elemental the way to go or are they just bad altogether?
is the scaling any good or is elemental the way to go or are they just bad altogether?
RANT- Tyler Durden
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Re: are claws any good?
Theyre good, the rolling r1 is tricky to parry. Damage is ok but if you're more of a swashbuckler and don't mind long fights you'll like them, he few people I've fought that used them only fished for a bs, oo bad.
drmuto- Regular
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Re: are claws any good?
what are the pro's and cons? is the scaling worth it or is elemental better?
is it better to duel wield or have a shield?
is it better to duel wield or have a shield?
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duel wielding looks cool and you can parry with them, if you dodge for the most part you should duel wield. i would go +15 since it scales well with dex(B or A i think), the only cons it has imo iss crappy range and ok danage, the moveset is pretty awesome.
FinPeku- Chat Moderator
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Re: are claws any good?
They're ok with a dex build. Don't make them elemental. Dual wielding the same weapon is practically never beneficial but it looks cool. Claws have fast parry animation so they're not bad in off-hand. I mainly use them for looks.
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Re: are claws any good?
Its almost always better to have a shield available. The heater shield comes to mind.
Pro: bleed, buffable, tough to parry
Con: short, bleed dodge, no stun, roll r1 gets obvious very quickly so people will trade with you and they'll almost always win the trade if they succeed.
Pro: bleed, buffable, tough to parry
Con: short, bleed dodge, no stun, roll r1 gets obvious very quickly so people will trade with you and they'll almost always win the trade if they succeed.
drmuto- Regular
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i think ill make a low lvl build to try em out range usually isn't an issue for me but just in case ill have a backup weapon, something like this?
FinPeku- Chat Moderator
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Re: are claws any good?
Just make a basic SL 100 dex build and use claws. IF you don't like them, use any other dex weapon.
drmuto- Regular
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could do that but i hate making basic buildsFinPeku wrote:Just make a basic SL 100 dex build and use claws. IF you don't like them, use any other dex weapon.
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Re: are claws any good?
http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=165118390349685546
i call it the fat talon, high hp high mobility 55 poise and some sorcery and pyro
i call it the fat talon, high hp high mobility 55 poise and some sorcery and pyro
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Re: are claws any good?
http://mmdks.com/sgf
If you do something like this you'll have pretty much the same build and you can switch in the red tear stone at low health, rather than wasting the slot on it for the whole fight. But you'll lose movement... I dunno just a suggestion if you want to try out regular.
I think you'll get more damage output from the +15 normal weapons just because of split damage and resistance. I left the chaos claw there so you can experiment with that if you want, but their AR's are pretty tight. I'm not really a build pro though, so probably anyone else in this are can give you a better make than I just did haha.
If you do something like this you'll have pretty much the same build and you can switch in the red tear stone at low health, rather than wasting the slot on it for the whole fight. But you'll lose movement... I dunno just a suggestion if you want to try out regular.
I think you'll get more damage output from the +15 normal weapons just because of split damage and resistance. I left the chaos claw there so you can experiment with that if you want, but their AR's are pretty tight. I'm not really a build pro though, so probably anyone else in this are can give you a better make than I just did haha.
drmuto- Regular
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Re: are claws any good?
i like it i think ill try that 1Yukon wrote:http://mmdks.com/sgf
If you do something like this you'll have pretty much the same build and you can switch in the red tear stone at low health, rather than wasting the slot on it for the whole fight. But you'll lose movement... I dunno just a suggestion if you want to try out regular.
I think you'll get more damage output from the +15 normal weapons just because of split damage and resistance. I left the chaos claw there so you can experiment with that if you want, but their AR's are pretty tight. I'm not really a build pro though, so probably anyone else in this are can give you a better make than I just did haha.
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...yes it looks nice, but no poise no shield build...you better be ninja flippin, or parrying, without mistake because your waepons have short reach, also no range magic at all hance no att slots...why? Have some Avelyn or god bow close...
Is lvl cap 60?
Build a little more on that idea...
Is lvl cap 60?
Build a little more on that idea...
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ya i wanted to be lvl 60
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Re: are claws any good?
I've only used claws a little while but they are fun. They get A scaling in dex at +15, and bleed -- at least in theory, the buildup seems very slow. Stamina cost is low with fairly quick slash speeds so with a buff they can be decent.
You can also get a roughly 20 point damage bump if you pair them with thorn gauntlets, as they count as fist weapons. This combined with thorn chip damage can make a difference particularly if you face low poise opponents and can abuse them with your double rolling R1 attacks.
I horsed around with an un-optimized claw build in the recent Sen's pvp event, you can see some of it at around 1:40:00 here:
http://www.twitch.tv/soulswikiofficial/b/356510766
You can also get a roughly 20 point damage bump if you pair them with thorn gauntlets, as they count as fist weapons. This combined with thorn chip damage can make a difference particularly if you face low poise opponents and can abuse them with your double rolling R1 attacks.
I horsed around with an un-optimized claw build in the recent Sen's pvp event, you can see some of it at around 1:40:00 here:
http://www.twitch.tv/soulswikiofficial/b/356510766
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Well don't let me rain on your parade, I guess I'm judging on my skill level, I wouldn't get far with that build...I like more solid armor, 50+ poise, I like spears, and at least Great Combustion or Black Flame in one hand...but that build with capable player could be as good as any...it's about player...not build.
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just tested it out a lil bit +15 is the way to go by far with these, also found out duel wielding aint that great ill probably use gcs or target
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I tried the claws for a while and I just hated them, They do an incredibly small amount of damage and while they cause bleed, there are much better weapons out there in my opinion.
However, perhaps it is just that I did not use them for lone enough to become truly effective with them but I am not sure.
However, perhaps it is just that I did not use them for lone enough to become truly effective with them but I am not sure.
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I tried them once and gotta say...they aint that great...so much better weapons out there, but at least they look cool when dual wielded, and thats what trully matters, so, as long as you enjoy its moveset you cant go wrong.
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They're not the greatest. It's regular attacks are just bad. It's damage output isn't great either. It's only saving grace is the rolling r1 and to a skilled player they can predict then parry it.
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lolno.
theyre fun for pve or doing casual duels tho.
theyre fun for pve or doing casual duels tho.
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i use the unarmed dragonbody so i could easily go to the claws and like them.
they have bleed fast and fun to use
they have bleed fast and fun to use
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