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    2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:15 pm

    sl 100
    no intentional chain back stabs
    no tranquil walk of peace/stone greatsword r2
    no power within

    we have a skype chat and use mics.
    let me know in here if you're interested.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by BeeSeaEss on Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:21 pm

    2v2 instead of 1v1. Hmmmmm, I will take this into consideration.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by lextune on Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:33 pm

    XBOX?


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:37 pm

    oh wow i forgot to list it..

    ps3. but if u want to host on xbox feel free to hijack this thread.

    i do have dks on the xbox without the dlc tho. i'd just have to make some characters if theres interest on it being over there.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:12 am

    I love 2v2. I like it better than duelling.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by RANT on Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:29 am

    no pw? that makes no sense. its not like bffing with slb, your life get drained and after the patch its even more balanced.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by bunnywink on Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:54 am

    This was really fun! happy


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:00 am

    the no power within is to prevent ohko builds for spells and backstabs.. without limiting a really strong build or going into depth on what a ohko is depending on hp.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:27 pm

    bump for today.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by RANT on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:22 pm

    Rifter7 wrote:the no power within is to prevent ohko builds for spells and backstabs.. without limiting a really strong build or going into depth on what a ohko is depending on hp.

    but EVERYONE has dex which have way more advantages to them than dex builds, str build is all about killing in two or three blows. now that everyone has 99 humanity and maxed out gear str dont stunlock like they used to theyre at a huge disatvantage.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:10 am

    a red tearstone ring and a great scythe backstab took away almost 90% of someones health. they got killed by a wakeup r2.

    that was 50% attack boost which backstabbed for 1300 damage from a weapon that hits for 489 damage. right? it wasn't buffed in any other ways.

    take a great club. 28 strength 2 handed, 641 damage.
    throw in a buff, sunlight blade with 30 faith, 309 damage.
    throw in power within, 40% damage increase.
    and if for some reason that's not enough, throw in a hornet ring and boost crits by 30%.

    now.. that builds possible btw here, http://mmdks.com/t2r

    would you want to play 2s if there was someone instantly killing people with backstabs? i mean.. you get backstabbed a lot more in 2s, there's no denying it... why would you want those backstabs to be instant kills?

    and you know.. there's no limit on buffs.. there's no limit on rtsr- you can still kill low hp characters instantly... it's just that the build is powerful damage wise and has made sacrifices to get that power. it's not just costing the build 1 attunement slot and a ring slot if they feel like it.. idk that's my opinion tho.

    if you guys don't like the rules we can change em.. i just threw them in as i saw most of us avoiding what was listed.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by RANT on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:36 am

    there's a lot more backstabbing in the arena's so i dont really care, 2v2s is all about fun and i do not take it serious at all, i always go in there to goof around and bs people most of the time which i never do in a real duel, that' just how i feel. i actually really hate it when people heal mid fight in the arena more than people ohko'ing me to death. what im trying to say is that PW actually has a drawback and that you ban the other things which are kinda annoying to fight and can ohko but you didnt say anything about mages with the dragon ring and dusk crown that can ohko anything with dark beads.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:11 am

    you can still have fun and take something serious in terms of competition..

    i feel that's directed at me. using a healing miracle requires stat point investment. my 2 great heal excerpts required 11 stat points invested solely for them. those all came directly out of my vitality and endurance from 40/40 to 36/33.. so i'm easier to kill but if i survive i can regenerate.

    not going for backstabs or ohko builds in duels with randoms and then doing the opposite with people you know baffles me...

    power withins drawback is the hp drain- which can be offset with heals. dieing in the arena doesn't mean you lose, either, you just pop out of the box again so the threat is always there. all of us can do some serious damage or kill someone with a rtsr, and that has you at one hit from death and usually no poise or med rolling.. having that effect for the entire round at full health with max poise or equip load is just a bit to much imo.

    and this isn't directly effecting strength builds. if you swap the build i linked with a dex great scythe or uchigatana the results will be very similar... heck my next faith build can do exactly this, all i'd have to do is swap wotg for power within and you'd have me instant killing people with backstabs. considering how often i manage to pull them off i don't think anyone wants to see that happen.

    about the casters.. we have a dedicated caster that comes with us. they don't use dusk crown i don't believe but they have no poise so i assume they're using a fap and dragon ring. they have spells from every tree.. it's not as much of an issue once you put pressure on them as theres two people that can be attacking the caster.
    but it's a valid point you brought up.

    i'm not the head honcho or something here, if most of the usual's don't agree with something than speak up and we can make this as fun as possible for everyone.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by RANT on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:18 am

    the heal thing wasnt directed at you dude, EVERYONE heals in the arena which is annoying imo, i only meant it in a 1v1 duel, i dont care when its 2v2 since i have a faith build with soothing sunlight and i heal my teammate whenver hes low on vit. also, you dont need the crown of dusk to ohko, im pretty sure dark beads or pursuers can ohko with no buffs. i was just saying that because str builds are slow and the weapons are heavy as heck means no poise or 40 poise and we need as much power since dex builds can hit and run without ever getting touched by a str build unless you trade hits which i not ideal.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:26 am

    thats what makes the 2s so fun tho.. you're weaknesses? they can be patched up by a teammate.

    that's why actually trying in 2s is so fun. lets say there's a caster on your team.. no one wants him to cast basically.. so they don't let him?

    well if you've got a fast moving teammate around he can be a body guard and let that caster freecast at anyone fighting the fast bodyguard.

    be creative.. think about what would compliment your playstyle and try to get em on your team. these rules and drawbacks wont bother you by then, i guarantee you.

    but yeah that whole ohko with spells thing sounds a little crazy. idk it hasn't been an issue yet as emergence's build doesnt instakill people unless he gets the pursuer/darkbead combo or hits with a css and something else... but idk. we'd have to see it in action.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Emergence on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:41 am

    For reference, I'm using tcc with bellowing, no crown. I can get over 1k but no ohko unless they've been chipped already. I'm not sure if the crown would put me over top, maybe against another 1300 hp glass cannon like myself but otherwise I doubt it. I'll rewatch some of the footage to see what kind of numbers I pull consistently.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:01 am

    lol.. u better not post footage of me on that little ledge healing.

    btw we're doing 2s atm if your interested.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Emergence on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:35 am

    lol Sadly I did not get that match recorded. But the memory will serve me forever. Tbh I chuckled about it on and off all day silly

    Very interested but can't tonight though sad , I had to get stuff in order for this FC on Saturday, which you and everyone should attend! I'm fully addicted at this point so I'll jump in the next moment I can.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:31 am

    i liked the dragonbody work around.

    ggs.

    you saw what i was talking about with the great scythe and the rtsr tho yea? idk. that seems a bit much if someone could hit that hard the entire round.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Myztyrio on Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:00 am

    I'll participate, if you're lacking a fourth or anything. happy


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Rifter7 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:07 am

    we're done for today. tomorrow we might be doing some more.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:25 am

    Another fun night. I lost track of time and went later than I expected.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:05 pm

    Question for those of you 2v2ers . . .

    While I wasn't just blindly spamming R1 with my Falchion, did you consider it cheap?

    I was actually aiming every R1 and trying to dead angle. I did most of the fights unlocked.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by Emergence on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:47 pm

    reim0027 wrote:Question for those of you 2v2ers . . .

    While I wasn't just blindly spamming R1 with my Falchion, did you consider it cheap?

    I was actually aiming every R1 and trying to dead angle. I did most of the fights unlocked.

    I cast Pursuers.


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    Re: 2vs2 (PS3)

    Post by RANT on Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:54 pm

    nah, most people that use a curved sword unlock and its not cheap at al considering, theyre short and you really shouldnt go heah to head against it. what about a roar bs?


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