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    Post by EeAyEss on Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:09 pm

    [quote="befowler"]I confirmed that kirk's gauntlets do boost claw damage by ~ 20 on an R1 slash (and more on a bs/riposte). Better still, the double roll R1 attack combined with thorn damage from wearing the gauntlets means you can literally just roll in circles around no poise DM spammers and keep them in a cycle of endless low damage stunlock. I had someone disconnect after I did this to them for over 5 minutes.[/quote]

    OMG yes!


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    Post by fujiphoenix on Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:18 pm

    I don't know how but it does.
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    Post by hey its andres on Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:54 pm

    This shall go down in history as one of the greatest discoveries ever!. Oh you can block with the pyromancy flame if you two hand it.


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    Post by GkMrBane on Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:40 pm

    befowler wrote:I confirmed that kirk's gauntlets do boost claw damage by ~ 20 on an R1 slash (and more on a bs/riposte). Better still, the double roll R1 attack combined with thorn damage from wearing the gauntlets means you can literally just roll in circles around no poise DM spammers and keep them in a cycle of endless low damage stunlock. I had someone disconnect after I did this to them for over 5 minutes.

    I went 10-0 in the arena the other day because I ran into tons of no poise enemies who thought they could ninja flip through my swings of the claymore (they could) but I had a rapier in my left hand which stunlocked the crap out of them.


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by Ashran on Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:07 pm

    You can actually skip the stupid frogs/rats area in depths! I was just sliding in the waterfall for fun waiting to be summoned to do jolly cooperation with my sunbro and... I slided to the left wall and falled in the main chamber where you find Domhnall and the boss' door. Surprising.

    I know this may be an extended knowledge but... hey i find it today xD


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by befowler on Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:56 pm

    Ashran wrote:You can actually skip the stupid frogs/rats area in depths! I was just sliding in the waterfall for fun waiting to be summoned to do jolly cooperation with my sunbro and... I slided to the left wall and falled in the main chamber where you find Domhnall and the boss' door. Surprising.

    I know this may be an extended knowledge but... hey i find it today xD

    That's a fun shortcut, I think if you use Seek Guidance there is actually a developer msg on the left side of the waterfall just for that reason.


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by Ashran on Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:12 pm

    Wow i thought seek for guidance only shows more players "tips". I guess im gonna use it to find devs txt.


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    Post by befowler on Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:31 pm

    In my experience at least it only shows more developer tips, not more player msgs (or player summon signs, as some folks seem to try to use it for). If you look the spell up on the wiki there is a list of known developer msgs if you want to spoil your fun, but it is possible there are more out there to be discovered.


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by ChizFreak on Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:19 pm

    The Cleric NPC of the Forest can heal you if you're an invader. But I don't know if he tries to heal you if you're hurt and get close to him like he does with the rest of NPCs. Maybe he was just trying to heal himself, but anyway it healed me. I was a DarkWraith btw.


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by Marino. on Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:43 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:The Cleric NPC of the Forest can heal you if you're an invader. But I don't know if he tries to heal you if you're hurt and get close to him like he does with the rest of NPCs. Maybe he was just trying to heal himself, but anyway it healed me. I was a DarkWraith btw.

    He does Heal other NPCs who are hurt even when he himself is at full Health . Dont know about Invaders though
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:30 pm

    Not new knowledge but does anyone know why they cut Shiva's betrayal from the game? Originally he was going to betray you like Lautric and you were going to have to invade his world, whatever that may be?
    I just wonder why it didnt work with the story.
    Another thing, the Elite Cleric set looks bad ***, why the hell is that not there? I know why they scrapped Escape death, thats obvious.
    Any info you guys may know would be awesome.


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by densetsushun on Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:26 am

    I JUST discovered that you can L1/R1 in the bottomless box to store or retrieve items. Look Skyward


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by SlakeMoth on Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:26 am

    I'd been playing for ages before I realised you don't have to reach a bonfire before you quit the game.
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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by Ashran on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:03 pm

    SlakeMoth wrote:I'd been playing for ages before I realised you don't have to reach a bonfire before you quit the game.

    densetsushun wrote:I JUST discovered that you can L1/R1 in the bottomless box to store or retrieve items. Look Skyward

    Dont know which is funnier.


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    Re: Discoveries you only made recently.

    Post by Nybbles on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:12 pm

    Ashran wrote:You can actually skip the stupid frogs/rats area in depths! I was just sliding in the waterfall for fun waiting to be summoned to do jolly cooperation with my sunbro and... I slided to the left wall and falled in the main chamber where you find Domhnall and the boss' door. Surprising.

    I know this may be an extended knowledge but... hey i find it today xD

    you can pretty much skip the entirety of the depths all together, there is a drop near the ember just behind the first butcher, it puts you directly above the giant rat which dies to a plunging attack, then it's a slip n' slide to the boss and you can call it a day.

    i don't think allot of people make use of that early shortcut, which is super useful even if you're not in the mood for taking on the gapping (insert euphemism for kitty) dragon.
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    Post by densetsushun on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:46 pm

    densetsushun wrote:I JUST discovered that you can L1/R1 in the bottomless box to store or retrieve items. Look Skyward
    As a continuation to this, I also just discovered what L2/R2 does. Prostration
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    Post by hey its andres on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:52 pm

    There is a glitch in the Dukes Archives that results in a floating window way about the building. It is always there and is up and to your left when you leave the Archive Tower.


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    Post by ryan0wens on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:35 pm

    After hundreds of hours of gameplay and even more spent scouring every page of the wiki, I have just discovered that you could zoom in with a bow :|
    I've seriously been sniping at insane distances without zooming

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    Post by Sentiel on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:26 pm

    ryan0wens wrote:After hundreds of hours of gameplay and even more spent scouring every page of the wiki, I have just discovered that you could zoom in with a bow :|
    I've seriously been sniping at insane distances without zooming
    It works with Binoculars as well and Hawk Ring enchances the zoom.

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    Post by defacto on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:32 pm

    Sentiel wrote:
    ryan0wens wrote:After hundreds of hours of gameplay and even more spent scouring every page of the wiki, I have just discovered that you could zoom in with a bow :|
    I've seriously been sniping at insane distances without zooming
    It works with Binoculars as well and Hawk Ring enchances the zoom.

    Didn't know this either. Mind blown.
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    Post by PlasticandRage on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:35 pm

    ^ Sometimes I forget how much of an advantage it was to come into Dark Souls with Demon's Souls experience. Definitely learned a lot of the basics playing the first one first.


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    Post by defacto on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:36 pm

    Oh_the_Humanity wrote:Not new knowledge but does anyone know why they cut Shiva's betrayal from the game? Originally he was going to betray you like Lautric and you were going to have to invade his world, whatever that may be?
    I just wonder why it didnt work with the story.
    Another thing, the Elite Cleric set looks bad ***, why the hell is that not there? I know why they scrapped Escape death, thats obvious.
    Any info you guys may know would be awesome.

    Actually like many, many things in this game it was supposed to be a nod back to Demon's Souls.

    In Demon's souls there is a ninja in White World Tendency in 4-1 that wants a sword. No matter what you do he ends up attacking you.

    That was supposed to be the same thing with Shiva, but he wanted the Chaos Blade instead I believe.

    Oh and the Bed of Chaos fight is a nod back to the Dragon God fight. Not sure why the Dragon God gets a pass and the Bed of Chaos doesn't. I guess the Dragon God was a...you know...Dragon God so it was much cooler. But the fight mechanics are pretty similar. Down to hitting two objects and then fighting an enemy that is essentially just waiting for you to kill it.

    I personally hate the Dragon God fight just like the Bed of Chaos fight but the Dragon God is 100x easier once you know about the flinching mechanic.
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    Post by PlasticandRage on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:39 pm

    ^ I think there was more to figuring out how to kill the Dragon God. That fight is like a puzzle that kills you. Where I'd consider the BoC more as something that just kills you over and over that you have to get through. There wasn't much to figure out there. The two things you have to attack first are big and obvious, and then the third thing you have to do, where the path opens up in front of you, was equally as obvious. At least IMO. You just had to die over and over again to do it. You also have to run all the way across the map to continue fighting the BoC, whereas the DG had a spawn point literally right before it.


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    Post by EeAyEss on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:49 pm

    I actually figured out that some of the Dark Souls bosses are remodified bosses of Demon's Souls.

    Pinwheel=Fool's Idol
    Bell Gargoyles=Maneater
    BoC=Dragon God
    Asylum Demon(and it's cousins)=Vanguard


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    Post by PlasticandRage on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:50 pm

    ^ The Hellkite is definitely a nod to the 2 dragons too


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