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    WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:32 pm

    You read the title. If you don't wanna read infuriated text, switch to another post.


    Oh. My. GOD.

    Katanas are full of :dung:
    I'm not kidding. The only thing worse than a katana is a laggy spear. And the ***** who wields it.

    Katanas are NOT punishable, swing fast enough to use with a kick and motherf*cking wake-up attacks, and have good AR. Their "downside?"

    "An easily chipped blade." If only that :dung: mattered.

    I'm sick and tired of all katanas. The majority of the people I fight use katanas, and it sickens me. While fun to use(I've used my share), I find that they kill people too easily. Same thing with spears, which I only pull out to deal with katanas, but I don't want to use spears as a crutch.

    It really makes me sad that most people I come across use them. It is, to me, unoriginal and drab. Out of all the weapons to use, an unbelievably cheap katana is your choice. On top of that, I came across 5 different people who buffed a washing pole with DMB. That weapon... Look Skyward

    I hate katanas. I hate dark magic also, but that's another rant.

    If you cared to read my rant, thank you. I appreciate that you spent your time reading this. Proper Bow


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:33 pm

    lol


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:34 pm

    It's just my feelings, bro. I appreciate that you read my rant.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:37 pm

    it sounds like you've been playing rock paper scissors to much and are tired of people scissoring when you use paper.

    try a curved sword.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Emergence on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:38 pm

    Moved this to PvP, since it's a better match.

    Also,



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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:38 pm

    How so? All katanas outrange the curved swords. I could really use some tips.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:38 pm

    Emergence, thanks for the pvp switch, but why the picture?


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Sloth9230 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:39 pm

    I use them for their style, that's about it.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:40 pm

    I can see that. I can see the point in using them for style. I still hate 'em.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:42 pm

    Emergence, I suggest a new word filter, whenever people say the word ****, poop, dungy, or brown, just replace it with :dung:
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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:43 pm

    the kat has to sit just outside of your range to hit you. if you start trading hits with the curved sword it'll always win with the cblade being just barely strong enough to overpower them if it's a competent player, but even then..

    learn how to use a curved sword well. not just how to r1 spam for stunlocks, i mean actually play with the thing, try out combos, see what works..

    also.. your character has no burdence load like in demon's souls. from is basically encouraging you as a player to carry more than one weapon along with you, so that if you come across something that gives you problems you have an answer.. so utilize that and carry more weapons with you.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Emergence on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:45 pm

    EeAyEss wrote:Emergence, thanks for the pvp switch, but why the picture?

    "Rant" threads always elicit the same response from me.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:45 pm

    I do. The character I was just playing as, I have a 2 +14 pgc's, a enchanted falchion +4, a darksword +15, a greataxe +15, a SKS +5, the works. I carry a well-stocked inventory, because I'm a quality build. I'll go ahead and post what my build...
    http://mmdks.com/rbw

    EDIT:my bad, I didn't list my spells and equips...


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:46 pm

    [quote="Emergence"][quote="EeAyEss"]Emergence, thanks for the pvp switch, but why the picture?[/quote]

    "Rant" threads always elicit the same response from me.[/quote]

    Ok. Just wondering.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by The Letter X on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:48 pm

    My signature only proves your point.

    I also like to use katanas for style. I dual wield them, run around with fairly low poise, and don't pair pyromancy with them, so I think it's fair in a way.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:51 pm

    what the heck is a pgc?

    you want 27-28 or 40 strength and 40 dex on a quality build. always use a +15 falchion. they're enchantable and hit like a truck when you have the strength to back them up 2 handed.. and 27 strength gives you 40 strength two handing it.

    swings for 409, and fast as well as stunlocking. uchigatana hits for 420 at 40 dex.. and iaito is 410.
    YOUR FALCHION WILL HIT AS HARD AS AN IAITO. i'm not even including the part about it being buffable.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:55 pm

    EeAyEss wrote:
    Emergence wrote:
    EeAyEss wrote:Emergence, thanks for the pvp switch, but why the picture?

    "Rant" threads always elicit the same response from me.

    Ok. Just wondering.

    After looking at your build the issue may be you just have not found your right weapon yet. As an example. A claymore is a fine weapon to fight katana users. The rolling R1 has a long reach and does good damage. The 1-handed has good reach and does good damage. The 2-handed R2 is able to bypass shields when used at an angle. Plus it can stun. I think the only issue might be you still need to find the weapon that suites your play style.

    All weapons have their strengths and weaknesses. I would try to find the one that fits your style.

    Katanas = Fast
    Greatswords = Stun, Reach and Damage
    Spear = Reach
    Etc.
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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:57 pm

    Baal-Avatar wrote:
    EeAyEss wrote:
    Emergence wrote:
    EeAyEss wrote:Emergence, thanks for the pvp switch, but why the picture?

    "Rant" threads always elicit the same response from me.

    Ok. Just wondering.

    After looking at your build the issue may be you just have not found your right weapon yet. As an example. A claymore is a fine weapon to fight katana users. The rolling R1 has a long reach and does good damage. The 1-handed has good reach and does good damage. The 2-handed R2 is able to bypass shields when used at an angle. Plus it can stun. I think the only issue might be you still need to find the weapon that suites your play style.

    All weapons have their strengths and weaknesses. I would try to find the one that fits your style.

    Katanas = Fast
    Greatswords = Stun, Reach and Damage
    Spear = Reach
    Etc.

    i think the 1h r1 can dead angle too, the initial swing hits to the right almost directly behind the character.

    but yeah ^ he's right too.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:59 pm

    [quote="Baal-Avatar"]After looking at your build the issue may be you just have not found your right weapon yet. As an example. A claymore is a fine weapon to fight katana users. The rolling R1 has a long reach and does good damage. The 1-handed has good reach and does good damage. The 2-handed R2 is able to bypass shields when used at an angle. Plus it can stun. I think the only issue might be you still need to find the weapon that suites your play style.

    All weapons have their strengths and weaknesses. I would try to find the one that fits your style.

    Katanas = Fast
    Greatswords = Stun, Reach and Damage
    Spear = Reach
    Etc.[/quote]

    I've been building up a claymore to use, it's +10 now.
    You have a point. I often switched to my SKS to fight katanas, but like I stated in my rant, I don't like "falling back" on a spear to fight. It feels like a crutch, even though(to me) spears are counters to katanas. Going into a fight with my SKS out is ok, but sometimes I feel like I cheesed my opponent out using the range. Not a good feeling. silly


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:02 pm

    my bad, did I type pgc? I meant pgs, you know, painted guardian swords. lol!

    I like dual-wielding them when I'm not being serious. It CAN be effective, though not often with my skill level. And I'm also building up a regular falchion. I haven't optimized most of my builds equips. A lot of them are at +10 still. :cry:


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:06 pm

    EeAyEss wrote:

    I've been building up a claymore to use, it's +10 now.
    You have a point. I often switched to my SKS to fight katanas, but like I stated in my rant, I don't like "falling back" on a spear to fight. It feels like a crutch, even though(to me) spears are counters to katanas. Going into a fight with my SKS out is ok, but sometimes I feel like I cheesed my opponent out using the range. Not a good feeling. silly

    That is fare and everyone needs to create their own set of guidelines for when they PVP. I used to keep a spear on me as back-up all the time. Then I realized that as soon as I started not doing well in a fight I would pull it out for the easy win. I would just say experiment with different weapons. This is my own personal opinion, and I know some people are great with the weapon, but the Dark Sword is a difficult weapon to master. If this is for a toon around level 50 or 100 just send me a friend request and I can help you out with some weapons. That may be all it takes.

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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:08 pm

    I appreciate it, Baal. It's a lvl 120, I actually based the build as a spellsword featuring the darksword just cuz of how BALLIN' it looked. But yeah, it weighs as much as a claymore and doesn't hit as hard, not mention the crappy r2 attacks.

    I don't care how crappy it is, as it's my favorite weapon. I will master it. One day. hahaha. But it does not fare well against katanas. Not at all.

    Also, I think the darksword swings slower than the regular swords, thus adding to it's incompetency.


    Additionally, my best weapon class are the heavy ones, specifically the DGM and the MSGS. However, the joys of being a darkwraith and being a quality build are numerous, so I've become rusty with those. Haha!


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by ChizFreak on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:10 pm

    WTF katanas are awesome.

    But yeah, I pulled out my spear last knight and *** everyone that used katanas and curved swords silly. But that's only because that's the best way to counter those weapons. Every weapon has a weakness. The best way to counter a spear user is to take distance, poison/toxin (if he only counter attacks), and if he is too aggressive, just parry him; or if you're able poise his attacks and counter attack him. Also Poise Backstab.


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by The Letter X on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:12 pm

    I find it funny that my counter for spears is a katana. silly


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    Re: WARNING: RANT ABOUT KATANAS

    Post by EeAyEss on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:12 pm

    And chiz, my point is that katanas are too awesome. They need a legitimate draw back, not some low durability crap. silly


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