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    Am i Turtleing?

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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:11 am

    Hey guys, i was just wondering what turtleing is. to my knowledge is was keeping a giant shield up and poking with a rapier or spear. I was keeping my guard up by Two handing my shortsword ( No shield) And my opponent said i was turtleing. Is this a form of it because i prefer not to make my opponents angry and for everyone to have a pleasant dark souls duel. Thank you for your time and effort. Also, let it be known that i was indeed on the offensive and got them to near death with that shortsword, no other magic or pyromancy etc.


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    Post by LunarFog Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:31 am

    It's turtling. Now grow a spine you insecure baby.
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    Post by lalliman Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:46 am

    No one will call you a turtle for blocking with a shortsword, it only has like 50% damage reduction anyways. Using a greatshield + spear/rapier is turtling.
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    Post by Sentiel Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:46 am

    I don't know about other, but to me, turtling is when you use Spear/Rapier weapons and poke from behind your shield.

    As long as you don't do that, even if you keep your shield up the whole fight, you wouldn't turtle to me.

    I mean, it makes sense to keep your shield up, to protect yourself, right?
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    Post by xSomax Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:56 am

    Turtling is the act of doing anything and everything defensive to stop the enemy from killing you, without retaliating, like a turtle in its shell. any of the above would work for that definition.

    the question is were you trying to attack? if so, then no, you aren't turtling. defending against attacks =/= turtling. defending against any and all attacks that may come at you, even if they don't = turtling. its basically you trying to bleed your opponent dry, a siege if you will. hiding behind a short sword to stop some attacks doesn't work in that sense
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    Post by Juutas Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:05 am

    Oh you teenage mutant ninja turtle you! how dare you block with your sword!? silly
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    Post by Hue Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:35 am

    The only way to not get hate messages is to stand there and die.
    You shouldn't be giving a :dung: about it
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:39 pm

    xSomax wrote:Turtling is the act of doing anything and everything defensive to stop the enemy from killing you, without retaliating, like a turtle in its shell. any of the above would work for that definition.

    the question is were you trying to attack? if so, then no, you aren't turtling. defending against attacks =/= turtling. defending against any and all attacks that may come at you, even if they don't = turtling. its basically you trying to bleed your opponent dry, a siege if you will. hiding behind a short sword to stop some attacks doesn't work in that sense

    Yes, I definately took the offensive and got my opponent to near death.
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:40 pm

    Hachouma wrote:The only way to not get hate messages is to stand there and die.
    You shouldn't be giving a :dung: about it

    Lol ivery clever use of the dung pie. And thank you for your input happy
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:43 pm

    Juutas wrote:Oh you teenage mutant ninja turtle you! how dare you block with your sword!? silly

    LOL Thanks for your input happy but in all honesty I'm being serious because I don't want to be a tutler, even though I love the show winking
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:44 pm

    Sentiel wrote:I don't know about other, but to me, turtling is when you use Spear/Rapier weapons and poke from behind your shield.

    As long as you don't do that, even if you keep your shield up the whole fight, you wouldn't turtle to me.

    I mean, it makes sense to keep your shield up, to protect yourself, right?

    I wasn't even using a shield I was using a shortsword lol and btw I very much agree and thank you for your input happy
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:45 pm

    lalliman wrote:No one will call you a turtle for blocking with a shortsword, it only has like 50% damage reduction anyways. Using a greatshield + spear/rapier is turtling.

    That'sabout the same as I thought. Thank you so much for yoour input it is REALLY appreciated happy
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    Post by The Letter X Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:49 pm

    I don't think that is turtling. If someone is two-handing their weapon it is the near opposite of turtling.
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:51 pm

    The Letter X wrote:I don't think that is turtling. If someone is two-handing their weapon it is the near opposite of turtling.

    Thank you for your input, your opinion is very much appreciated happy
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    Post by Ashran Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:09 pm

    Blocking with a sword isnt turtling. For the love of god, who in the hell would call you a turtle in that situation? :dung: players
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:12 pm

    Ashran wrote:Blocking with a sword isnt turtling. For the love of god, who in the hell would call you a turtle in that situation? :dung: players

    Lol i really appreciate the input, and my oppenant shall remain Ananymous because despite some disagreements i respect all of my opponents regardless of their opinions happy
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:15 pm

    LunarFog wrote:It's turtling. Now grow a spine you insecure baby.

    I find name calling to be rather disrespectful, and unless you can maintain a level of maturity in these forums im a afraid i must ask you to refrain from my posts. Thank you for looking at my posts though happy
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    Post by Kuragari Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:41 pm

    turtling is pretty self explanitory, what do turtles do? go inside the shell and stay there...

    if you were turtling you would be holding up your shield pretty much the whole time and not really doing much attacking at all. turtling now matter how big or how much armor you have you will eventually die if you only turtle because of chip damage.

    holding up your shield and spearing isn't exactly turtling, it's part of fighting machanics.

    blocking with your sword...i guess to a degree that could be turtling if you were only to block and nothing else. that's a tough one considering....who in thier right mind would turtle wiht a sword in the first place.

    turtling is doing absolutly nothing but blocking and keeping your distance to not die...everyone turtles during a fight to one degree or another, even if it's for a short time.

    there's always going to be people complaining about everything, dont mater what chances or oprotunity you give them there's always something to complain about...these people are called scrubs happy
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:46 pm

    I think your opponent sounds like a sore loser. My understanding of turtling is the same as yours. It's using a weapon from behind a shield, and not lowering your guard at all while you do it. There are a lot of ways to get through someone's guard if they're blocking with a weapon. If your opponent couldn't figure that out, than it's no surprise that he's getting frustrated enough to send hate mail. He's probably getting smacked around quite a bit by a lot of different players.
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    Post by WyrmHero Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:55 pm

    LunarFog wrote:It's turtling. Now grow a spine you insecure baby.

    LMAO
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:47 pm

    If you weren't attacking, you were officially turtling. Now, blocking with your sword gives crap damage reduction, crap stability, and inability to parry.

    But, it isn't the annoying turtle behind a high stability shield and spear/rapier. So, I don't know what your opponent is complaining about. He should have gone all bat :dung: crazy on you and spammed R1.

    I voted no to the turtling for the essence of the definition, not the literal definition.
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    Post by RANT Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:51 pm

    you were not turtling, turtling at least for me is poking through a shield and doing nothing else. people always confuse tanking for turtling, tanking is just beign really defensive and blockking a lot while using a weapon that connot attack behind a shield. with dark souls lag and phantom hits i have been finding myelf with my shield up a lot recently since getting hit from 20 feet away with a spear really sucks.
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:55 pm

    So, in other words, carry on. Let the haters hate. If they can't figure out how to damage you through a short sword block, that's their problem, not yours.

    But, if all you were doing was blocking and rolling away (not attacking), then I'd be a bit ticked at you too.
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:03 pm

    reim0027 wrote:So, in other words, carry on. Let the haters hate. If they can't figure out how to damage you through a short sword block, that's their problem, not yours.

    But, if all you were doing was blocking and rolling away (not attacking), then I'd be a bit ticked at you too.

    Thank you, i understand you whole heartedly. And i do apologize for not stating that i was also on the offensive. I blocked with my shortsword and waited for the precise moment to counter attack. I hope that added detail may change your opinion, and i feel under the circumstances your reasoning of deduction was well thought out and concise. thank you happy
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    Post by Samurainova Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:06 pm

    PlasticandRage wrote:I think your opponent sounds like a sore loser. My understanding of turtling is the same as yours. It's using a weapon from behind a shield, and not lowering your guard at all while you do it. There are a lot of ways to get through someone's guard if they're blocking with a weapon. If your opponent couldn't figure that out, than it's no surprise that he's getting frustrated enough to send hate mail. He's probably getting smacked around quite a bit by a lot of different players.

    Perhaps. none the less i respect my opponents whole heartedly, and keep an open mind to different views no matter how Absurd they may seem. That being said i also really respect your view and must say that i agree with it. I also appreciate your detailed information and effort in replying to my post. Thank you happy

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