Both wikis say that you'll need a Pyromancy Flame +10 to make her appear, but of course there are many reports of seeing her without upgrading or even obtaining a Pyromancy Flame.
This means that are probably at least two independent triggers for making her spawn. Has this ever been figured out? I've read various ideas, like she'll appear after ringing both bells, but I haven't confirmed any to be true yet.
The following are NOT sufficient triggers for her appearance, at least not on their own. I did the following things, in this order, and she still has not appeared. I also quit and reload each time to be certain:
In a follow-up test I also did the following:
I started with a Warrior and do not have a Pyromancy Flame in my inventory. I skipped Taurus and talking to Solaire, but went back and did those things after the last item on the list, and she's still not there.
Someone claimed to have seen her without ringing either bell at SL60, so perhaps it's triggered by reaching a certain level? I was at level 31 by the last test I conducted, so I think my next test will be to stockpile souls and then level up one level at a time and check each time until I reach 60... see if that works.
A reliable source had this to say (and did not BB glitch):
This means that are probably at least two independent triggers for making her spawn. Has this ever been figured out? I've read various ideas, like she'll appear after ringing both bells, but I haven't confirmed any to be true yet.
The following are NOT sufficient triggers for her appearance, at least not on their own. I did the following things, in this order, and she still has not appeared. I also quit and reload each time to be certain:
-Obtain the Blighttown Firekeeper soul and reinforce Estus
-Defeat Quelaag
-Ring the bell in Quelaag's Domain
-Rest at the Chaos Covenant bonfire
-Talk to Quelaan
-Join the Chaos Covenant
-Enter the Demon Ruins
-Take + Equip the Gold-Hemmed Black Set
-Defeat Ceaseless
-Reach lower Demon Ruins (obtained Large Flame Ember in suicide run)
-Ring the bell in the Parish
-Enter Sen's Fortress
In a follow-up test I also did the following:
- -Defeating Capra
-Entering the Depths
-Obtaining the Large Ember / Giving it to Andre / Upgrading a weapon beyond +5
-Resting at the depths bonfire
-Killing both butchers / seeing Laurentis and triggering dialog but not freeing him / grabbing the spider shield
I started with a Warrior and do not have a Pyromancy Flame in my inventory. I skipped Taurus and talking to Solaire, but went back and did those things after the last item on the list, and she's still not there.
Someone claimed to have seen her without ringing either bell at SL60, so perhaps it's triggered by reaching a certain level? I was at level 31 by the last test I conducted, so I think my next test will be to stockpile souls and then level up one level at a time and check each time until I reach 60... see if that works.
A reliable source had this to say (and did not BB glitch):
Any other ideas?I know this gets talked about a lot but she appeared for me earlier today and I had no Pyromancy Flame.
I had a Longsword+5, Rapier+5, basic armour and a Heater Shield. All I had done up to that point was kill Taurus, Gargoyles and Quelaag and rang both bells. Oh, and talked to her sister (using the Talk) option.
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