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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:04 am

    Then Celestia, and perhaps some extension Luna, must have really trusted the mane 6 if Celestia tried to have Discord reformed by being under the watch of Fluttershy of all ponies. I mean he ruled the land bad got overthrown and turned to stone for god knows how long, and then you want the new wielders of the Elements of Harmony to reform the guy? Celestia must really like risk to do that.

    Also Grin I think that Twilght becoming a princess had something to with Shining Armor marrying princess Candace.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:12 am

    I sometimes wonder if Celestia had any proteges before Twilight (does Starswirl qualify?). It seems like an amazing leap of faith into uncertainty (maybe for a god it isn't so uncertain?) to just sit idly back waiting for some "worthy" pony to just happen upon before.

    If Twilight never existed would she just still be sitting on the Elements of Harmony to this day without passing them to other potential candidates?
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:23 am

    My best assumption would, if cannon, that Nightmare Moon would still attack Celestia and without the Elements of Harmony I always assumed that Nightmare Moon would take over and banish Celestai for 1000 year as payback for what Celestia did to her. I mean Celestia did say that she and Luna were no longer connected to the Elements, something that Celestia needed to banish her sister in the first place.

    Edit: forgot to add what is in blue.
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    Post by Reaperfan Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:13 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:I sometimes wonder if Celestia had any proteges before Twilight (does Starswirl qualify?). It seems like an amazing leap of faith into uncertainty (maybe for a god it isn't so uncertain?) to just sit idly back waiting for some "worthy" pony to just happen upon before.

    If Twilight never existed would she just still be sitting on the Elements of Harmony to this day without passing them to other potential candidates?

    Ever since the season 3 finale and learning how Alicorns come to be, I imagined that there was a time when Celestia and Luna weren't alicorns (likely with their initial defeat of Discord as the task that allowed them to ascend). Given his almost legendary status in the understanding of magic in Equestria, I can imagine that Starswirl existed alongside the two would-be-princesses as a friend/rival or maybe even superior to the two in terms of magic during the time before they ascended. However when it came down to it, Starswirl had some kind of shortcoming that prevented him from ascending alongside the two sisters and so he never gained the supposed immortality that comes with being an Alicorn.

    As for the second point, as long as someone was in possession of the Elements of Harmony there's no reason to really worry too much. The only reason Twilight and friends are in control of them is because they individually represented each element very strongly. But we're told that before they took them over Celestia and Luna were able to handle them between just the two of them, and it's implied that Celestia was able to control all of them herself. While they might not have been as potent in just her control as they are in the Mane 6's, they weren't just stranded with no owners.

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:My best assumption would, if cannon, that Nightmare Moon would still attack Celestia and without the Elements of Harmony I always assumed that Nightmare Moon would take over and banish Celestai for 1000 year as payback for what Celestia did to her. I mean Celestia did say that she and Luna were no longer connected to the Elements, something that Celestia needed to banish her sister in the first place.

    Edit: forgot to add what is in blue.

    The problem I see with this is that Nightmare Moon would need the elements herself to banish Celestia, which she is no longer in control of. She would have to somehow take control of them from the Mane 6 before they used them to suppress her again and allow Luna to take control.
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    Post by Marino. Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:37 am

    Twilight becoming a Princess was planned all along .
    Faust originally wanted Twilight to be Celestias succesor, so the direction the Show has taken isn't too different from Faust' original Idea.
    So no, i don't think Hasnobro forced Twilicorn .

    If you look through the Episodes again you notice how Twilight is the Leader most of the time (extremely apparent in "Winter Wrap up") .
    And just think about it :
    She is Celestias one personal student.
    Why would she personally train a Pony ?
    So that she would become a Council Magician ? Nah, it's got to be something bigger .

    And look at the Elements .
    The other have Necklaces and Twilight has a frikken Crown .

    And Season 3 basicly waggled it in our Face .


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    Post by User1 Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:01 am

    Well, I've only recently tuned in now, but I'm gonna stay tuned in.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:31 am

    Marino. wrote:Stay tuned for my ramble about Starswirl the Bearded !

    Quit holding out on us! silly
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    Post by Reaperfan Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:50 pm

    Interesting news. Apparently if Labzero (the developers of Skullgirls) raise $725,000 (USD, to be specific for our international members) on their Indigogo campaign fundraiser, they will allow Mane6 to use their engine for the new version of Fighting is Magic for free! Unfortuantely I'm piss-poor and forced to squander any money I can so I can last through 3 months of Summer with no job, but to any of us who may be not-poor, consider helping the cause for Mane6, Labzero, or both!
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    Post by Marino. Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:50 pm

    I hope i didnt raise your expectations too much silly
    Just my thoughts about Starswirl .

    So, Starswirl was around at Hearts Warming Eve and he had a student called Clover the Clever .
    Starswirl was powerful and invented many Spells but he didn't have any Friends and thus had no acces to the most powerful Magic there is .

    This is where my theory starts.

    After the Events of Hearts Warming Eve when the three tribes came to peace Starswirl rejected the idea of Harmony between the tribes because he thinks that Unicorns should be the Rulers since they're the most powerful Race.

    This is supported by the Fact that there was a Unicorn King and Princess Platinum .

    Starswirl was disgusted by the Idea of being equated with the other Races.

    And so disharmony began to rise again and Discord was born .
    Starswirl was the reason Discord came to be.
    And then Celestia and Luna fired the Friendship Cannon and yadayadayada .

    Starswirl represents what Twilight could have become if Celestia didn't send her to make some Friends .
    Celestia saw her connection with the Element of Magic (It's the same Avatar mode when she uses the Elements of Harmony) and feared that History would repeat itself .

    I don't really know what i'm trying to say to be honest .
    Forgive this Scatterbrain lol!
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    Post by Marino. Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:54 pm

    Reaperfan wrote:Interesting news. Apparently if Labzero (the developers of Skullgirls) raise $725,000 (USD, to be specific for our international members) on their Indigogo campaign fundraiser, they will allow Mane6 to use their engine for the new version of Fighting is Magic for free! Unfortuantely I'm piss-poor and forced to squander any money I can so I can last through 3 months of Summer with no job, but to any of us who may be not-poor, consider helping the cause for Mane6, Labzero, or both!

    Already heard that one .

    But jeez 725 k ("k" stands for "thousand" yes ?) ?

    To use an engine from a rather small company ?
    I'm not good with propotions in the Game industry but that seems like an awful lot .

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    Post by Reaperfan Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:06 pm

    Marino. wrote:Already heard that one .

    But jeez 725 k ("k" stands for "thousand" yes ?) ?

    To use an engine from a rather small company ?
    I'm not good with propotions in the Game industry but that seems like an awful lot .


    Yeah, "k" stands for a thousand, so $725k is $725,000. Ultimately for a company, that's actually not alot of money. To the best of my knowledge most small games work with a budget in the couple hundreds of thousands, with bigger titles pushing into the millions and the AAA games going into multimillions.

    Also, creating a working engine for a game is the most difficult and technical part. The engine is what defines every aspect of coding and design. It's kind of like your operating system on your computer, in that (nowadays at least) you can't run one without it, and every program you use has to be properly formatted for that particular system. Having a studio say "sure, we'll let you use our engine instead of making one yourself" basically cuts development and production costs in half. And just because their a small developer doesn't mean their engine is bad. Have you ever seen Skullgirls in action? Seems just fine to me winking
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:11 pm

    Some indie companies really know how to do some great stuff with their engines. But Reaper has the point down and the Skullgirls engine seems to really function for abnormal fighting styles. I can imagine it being used for Mane6.
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    Post by Marino. Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:14 pm

    I didn't mean to say that the price wasn't warranted or anything .
    I'm just not familiar with the Propotions silly .

    The Game looks pretty awesome happy .
    Sadly we won't see Ponies though, i'm curious about Faust' designs for the Characters now .

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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:37 pm

    Skullgirls' style might fit a pony fighter quite well actually.
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:11 am

    I saw Princess Molestia the other day.
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    Post by User1 Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:13 am

    I thought Molestia was called Big Sexy...

    Also, sup, dude!
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:15 am

    Vinyl Scratch wrote:I saw Princess Molestia the other day.
    Sup dudes! and dudesses!
    How'd that go? Also what is your avatar Vinyl?
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:34 am

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:
    Vinyl Scratch wrote:I saw Princess Molestia the other day.
    Sup dudes! and dudesses!
    How'd that go? Also what is your avatar Vinyl?
    It was fun. She gets horny easy.


    What do you think it is?
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    Post by User1 Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:37 am

    It looks like some kind of insect, like a spider or a fly scuttling around on the floor.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:42 am

    A beautiful orchestra of drums, a piano, some tumpets and various other instruments suited for a remix of an equally beautiful theme for a vampire.... oh wait that is what I'm listening to silly !
    I hear a drum that signals a death by rainbows.


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    Post by Hatsune Miku Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:42 am

    It's my pet fly avatar. Like it?
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:43 am

    ^ As long as it is not a mosquito I have no issues.
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    Post by User1 Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:44 am

    I don't really understand it, but it's pretty cool.
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:45 am

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:A beautiful orchestra of drums, a piano, some tumpets and various other instruments suited for a remix of an equally beautiful theme for a vampire.... oh wait that is what I'm listening to silly !
    I hear a drum that signals a death by rainbows.
    Try this.
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    Post by User1 Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:46 am

    Which Castlevania is that?

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