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    Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:08 am

    Is there anyway possible to make a this weapon viable? I love the AoE attack but not scaling with anything sucks.. Any strategy or tips?


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by raecor14 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:11 am

    all the dragon weapons are viable, quite good for a STR actually, its just that most people agree that a STR weapon will almost allways be outclassed by a DEX weapon. go for a SL 120 high poise no roll build, that should be good enough to make it competitive


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:19 am

    raecor14 wrote:all the dragon weapons are viable, quite good for a STR actually, its just that most people agree that a STR weapon will almost allways be outclassed by a DEX weapon. go for a SL 120 high poise no roll build, that should be good enough to make it competitive
    I was thinking about using the Dragon Axe with Steel armor, Artoria's Great shield and pyromancies


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by raecor14 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:29 am

    Jiub of Carim wrote:
    raecor14 wrote:all the dragon weapons are viable, quite good for a STR actually, its just that most people agree that a STR weapon will almost allways be outclassed by a DEX weapon. go for a SL 120 high poise no roll build, that should be good enough to make it competitive
    I was thinking about using the Dragon Axe with Steel armor, Artoria's Great shield and pyromancies
    that would work quite nicely, your main obvious problem will me movement, but unless your willing to go almost poiseless there's nothing we can do about that.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:32 am

    raecor14 wrote:
    Jiub of Carim wrote:
    raecor14 wrote:all the dragon weapons are viable, quite good for a STR actually, its just that most people agree that a STR weapon will almost allways be outclassed by a DEX weapon. go for a SL 120 high poise no roll build, that should be good enough to make it competitive
    I was thinking about using the Dragon Axe with Steel armor, Artoria's Great shield and pyromancies
    that would work quite nicely, your main obvious problem will me movement, but unless your willing to go almost poiseless there's nothing we can do about that.
    i have no idea how to use str weapons. i have a feeling i'm gonna be back stabbed alot


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by raecor14 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:34 am

    Jiub of Carim wrote:
    raecor14 wrote:
    Jiub of Carim wrote:
    raecor14 wrote:all the dragon weapons are viable, quite good for a STR actually, its just that most people agree that a STR weapon will almost allways be outclassed by a DEX weapon. go for a SL 120 high poise no roll build, that should be good enough to make it competitive
    I was thinking about using the Dragon Axe with Steel armor, Artoria's Great shield and pyromancies
    that would work quite nicely, your main obvious problem will me movement, but unless your willing to go almost poiseless there's nothing we can do about that.
    i have no idea how to use str weapons. i have a feeling i'm gonna be back stabbed alot

    and thats an understatement. the best strategys i have seen where buy exploiting stunlock a whole lot. play it cool and circle then when they mess up STUNLOCK DOOM AHOY!


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:28 pm

    Does the Dragon Great Axe have a good stunlock? how effect is the AoE in Pvp?


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Carphil on Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:29 pm

    the AOE attacks is perfect for preventing backstabs. Its a fine weapon, with a bit less damage than other greataxes at 40 STR. definitaly viable and most importantly: It looks awesome!


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:06 pm

    Jiub of Carim wrote:Does the Dragon Great Axe have a good stunlock? how effect is the AoE in Pvp?



    The stunlock was nerfed post patch for greataxes, since almost no one use them you don't see much complaining, but that made them almost useless. I would use fast roll for the roll R1 360 swipe is pretty good unless you face a bs fisher.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:08 pm

    The best thing it has is that it can be buffed imo.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:28 pm

    ^What Wyrm said, try to get at least 15 INT in order to be able to buff it with GMW. Will help its viability out a bunch.

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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:21 pm

    Does a buff effect the AoE damage? Like if i used DMB would the AoE scale with it? What about added damage for resins?


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:26 pm

    I think so, the AoE attacks seem to get a boost from the buffs.

    Don't bother with the Resins, they won't do too much for you.

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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:03 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:The best thing it has is that it can be buffed imo.

    This. I'm also pretty sure the dragon weapons give you stat bonuses if you're a dragon. I've never done it myself, but I'm fairly sure I've read that

    Yeah, they do give you stat bonuses. At least according to the wiki. May not even need to be a dragon. I'm not too sure. I don't use the dragon weapons very often.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by LunarFog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:07 pm

    You could try going for the minimum requirements on a low sl character. That's usually when dragon weapons shine

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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:59 pm

    Also, fight unlocked. That way you can aim behind you (if they are trying to BS you) and adjust your attack (during the animation) to aim it better.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Ghadis_God on Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:57 pm

    I would make a fragile low level character with 34 Str (To wield it 2h) and try to oneshot lower level players with it. Buffing with GMW isn't a bad idea, but it's not a huge step up from the resins.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Carphil on Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:12 pm

    Ghadis_God wrote:I would make a fragile low level character with 34 Str (To wield it 2h) and try to oneshot lower level players with it. Buffing with GMW isn't a bad idea, but it's not a huge step up from the resins.

    actually it is


    http://mmdks.com/qri

    +200 AR, while resins give 20 or 30


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:20 pm

    reim0027 wrote:Also, fight unlocked. That way you can aim behind you (if they are trying to BS you) and adjust your attack (during the animation) to aim it better.
    Unlocked combat vs primarily locked combat are two very different beasts


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:34 pm

    Jiub of Carim wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:Also, fight unlocked. That way you can aim behind you (if they are trying to BS you) and adjust your attack (during the animation) to aim it better.
    Unlocked combat vs primarily locked combat are two very different beasts
    True, but it is a good way to avoid being BSed.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Sloth9230 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:46 pm

    Carphil wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:I would make a fragile low level character with 34 Str (To wield it 2h) and try to oneshot lower level players with it. Buffing with GMW isn't a bad idea, but it's not a huge step up from the resins.

    actually it is


    http://mmdks.com/qri

    +200 AR, while resins give 20 or 30

    Huh? resins are 80 and 150 AR for fire and lightning respectively. Those numbers mean squat when you factor in defenses though.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Ghadis_God on Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:07 pm

    Carphil wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:I would make a fragile low level character with 34 Str (To wield it 2h) and try to oneshot lower level players with it. Buffing with GMW isn't a bad idea, but it's not a huge step up from the resins.

    actually it is


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    +200 AR, while resins give 20 or 30
    Resins add no less than 150 AR of that element to their weapon. It usually translates to an increase of 20-50 damage on the enemy. I agree that GMW is a good buff for the stat investment, but it's not a huge step up from 150 lightning damage that gold resin would give you.


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:09 pm

    use hidden weapon, it will help disguise when your going to use the explosion attack,

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=126135956351174057


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:59 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:use hidden weapon, it will help disguise when your going to use the explosion attack,

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=126135956351174057

    That's a neat idea. I've never really messed around with that spell at all


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    Re: Dragon King Greataxe

    Post by Jiub of Carim on Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:19 pm

    I'm at work, so I can't look Hidden Weapon up. (But I can post to forum hahaha I know I know) How much Int does that require?


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