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    Am I considered to be griefing?

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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:54 pm

    I'm invading (not invading, not using RSS), on the sewers. My equipment is Obsidian Greatsword, Crown and Robes of the Great Lord, Artorias Gauntlets and Elite Knight Leggings. I seem to kill everyone in one or two shots..
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:08 pm

    Depends on your sl. However are you causeing any form of annoyance, trouble, using the creatures to help you or trolling? If not then you just have op gear.
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    Post by Odinbear Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:16 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Depends on your sl. However are you causeing any form of annoyance, trouble, using the creatures to help you or trolling? If not then you just have op gear.

    Yea, don be causin no trouble. Lol Sun
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    Post by Xero Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:35 pm

    Yes you are.
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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:07 pm

    lol how am i grieving? I worked for my gear, except the sword which a friend helped with, and am level 30. I'm not causing any trouble aside from Destroying other players.
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    Post by Natezer Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:13 pm

    You're not doing anything wrong. You're just using something that is in the game.
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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:19 pm

    THANK YOU!!
    Now see, if i was making them kill npcs or something like that, i'd understand. but i just go in, kill, get out.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:28 pm

    Yeah your not griefing, just overpowered for the sl 30 ranges.
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    Post by Sloth9230 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:29 pm

    Do you at least plan to use the souls? If you do, then your a farmer. It's still as cheap though. So long as you don't ruin their game, you're just a minor annoyance to them. So no, you're not as bad as a griefer.

    Seriously though, go fight someone who can actually fight back. Killing noobs for souls is pretty cheap. Same reason gankers are cheap, it's too easy and takes zero skill.


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    Post by WyrmHero Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:32 pm

    Yes you're griefing because you have equipment that's not available until much later. But you don't have to feel bad because you worked hard (right?) to get that equipment and killing 4 kings at SL 30 is not easy. So you're not a bad griefer because you aren't cheating like everyone used to pre patch.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:33 pm

    Griefing is in intent. You're op though so its kinda a **** move.

    I am curious though why you ask wether or not you're "considered to be griefing" and then try to defend yourself when someone says yes.

    You asked, he answered.
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    Post by Seignar Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:33 pm

    Griefing, in reality, is doing the following:

    - Make them kill/aggravate Downhall
    - TWoP and spam Acid Surge until there items are completely broken
    - Steal all their humanity just because
    - "Guide" them to the frogs after you've done all that to curse them

    If you do all of those except for 3, you're griefing. If you do all of those including 3, you're an evil griefer
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:36 pm

    The only reason I'm not saying your griefing is because your close but not enough to my definition of a cruel griefing. Though I agree with Sloth: What are going to do with those souls?
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    Post by RANT Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:00 pm

    i dont think so, but i consider having op gear to be cheap when you invade in a part of the game when most people have crappy gear and youre using stuff that's not available till ater in the game.
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    Post by Xero Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:01 pm

    You need to realize that most people who are going thorugh the Depths for the first time dont have a lot of humanity. They probably only bacame human so they could summon help for the boss. And then you come along with your Obsidian Greatesword +5 and two shot them taking their last humanity. HOW CAN YOU SLEEP WITH SUCH GUILT ON YOUR SOUL!
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    Post by Sloth9230 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:07 pm

    Xero wrote:HOW CAN YOU SLEEP WITH SUCH GUILT ON YOUR SOUL!

    lol
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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:16 pm

    Xero wrote:You need to realize that most people who are going thorugh the Depths for the first time dont have a lot of humanity. They probably only bacame human so they could summon help for the boss. And then you come along with your Obsidian Greatesword +5 and two shot them taking their last humanity. HOW CAN YOU SLEEP WITH SUCH GUILT ON YOUR SOUL!
    ...what soul? Am I considered to be griefing? 3358384175
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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:19 pm

    Also, guys. I dont plan on using the souls just yet. Once i get mored, I'll but materials and make awesome gear that lowbies can equip, like say a claymore+15, and drop it to them as gifts. Might possibly do a christmas in july event in the forest.
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    Post by Sloth9230 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:21 pm

    You shouldn't do that either, it would take the challenge out of a lot of the game for them. Thought it's better than giving them a chaos/lightning variant.
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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:27 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:You shouldn't do that either, it would take the challenge out of a lot of the game for them. Thought it's better than giving them a chaos/lightning variant.
    hmm.. =10 would be okay, though. Right? I mean.. its possible to have a +10 weapon by the time you reach quelaag. And like i said, i wouldnt do it aaaaaall the time, just at a certain date.
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    Post by defacto Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:30 pm

    Hey guys I beat the game at level 1 and when I invade the burg with my fully upgraded pyro flame everyone dies in 1 hit.

    This is legit PvP right?

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    Post by Sloth9230 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:31 pm

    Yeah, you shouldn't give newbies anything that they wouldn't be able to accesd themselves. Like Chaos weapons. You could get them early in the game, but it takes a certain level of skill to do so. Maybe drop a slab so they can make it +15 themselves, once they get the ember in new londo.
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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:37 pm

    Hmm..or chunks and titanite? Seems better than a weapon.
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    Post by ChizFreak Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:48 pm

    Shindori wrote:THANK YOU!!
    Now see, if i was making them kill npcs or something like that, i'd understand. but i just go in, kill, get out.

    Yes it's griefing. Actually, that's exactly what griefing is, invading players while you gear that it's not commonly accesible by those of that level. Griefing stops at level 40 to me. Once you reach Anor Londo, everything goes as that's mid-game, when people should be ready to face everything (also there you have lighting weapons).

    It's like invading with an Ascended Pyromancy Hand +5 and spamming Great Combustion to level 5 players in the Burg, it's griefing.

    To me, this post just seems to be you looking for people to tell you that what you're doing it's not wrong, this tells me that a part of you feels something is wrong.

    Let me tell you, IMO it's griefing and it's wrong. Even if most people don't agree. You put your own rules, wanna grief? Okay do it, but don't fool yourself thinking it's not griefing.
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    Post by Shindori Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:55 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:
    Shindori wrote:THANK YOU!!
    Now see, if i was making them kill npcs or something like that, i'd understand. but i just go in, kill, get out.

    Yes it's griefing. Actually, that's exactly what griefing is, invading players while you gear that it's not commonly accesible by those of that level. Griefing stops at level 40 to me. Once you reach Anor Londo, everything goes as that's mid-game, when people should be ready to face everything (also there you have lighting weapons).

    It's like invading with an Ascended Pyromancy Hand +5 and spamming Great Combustion to level 5 players in the Burg, it's griefing.

    To me, this post just seems to be you looking for people to tell you that what you're doing it's not wrong, this tells me that a part of you feels something is wrong.

    Let me tell you, IMO it's griefing and it's wrong. Even if most people don't agree. You put your own rules, wanna grief? Okay do it, but don't fool yourself thinking it's not griefing.
    I guess it's because I see griefing different from others. I see griefing as going in with stuff you havent even worked for, then using it against other players. Like i said, aside from the sword, I got through the whole game, even sliced kalameet's tail off and only then did I begin to use the sword online, but otherwise I left it untouched. I got the armor and upgraded it myself, and all i do is kill. I dont cause problems like most griefers do. I can see how some would consider it griefing, but if I got through the game at this low level and earned my way through, why should I not enjoy the spoils of my adventures? I'll probably start invading in anor londo soon, but i can see how doing this in the sewers or blighttown might be considered griefing.

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