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    Post by HelmHammerhand Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:30 pm

    He's not in the watchtower basement. Can he be anywhere else? Or am I screwed out of his ring?
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    Post by bloodpixel Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:31 pm

    You are screwed out of his ring.
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    Post by HelmHammerhand Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:32 pm

    What happened to him? Is it a glitch?
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    Post by bloodpixel Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:33 pm

    I have no idea. This never happened to me.
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    Post by ChizFreak Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:05 pm

    I've never heard of him disappearing. It's very strange, did you tried going to a different area, reloading your game, and then coming back to the basement?

    The only thing I can think of it's that maybe you did Undead Burg with a phantom and he killed him without you realizing it.

    Really, I've never heard of a glitch like that.
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    Post by Back Lot Basher Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:25 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:I've never heard of him disappearing. It's very strange, did you tried going to a different area, reloading your game, and then coming back to the basement?

    The only thing I can think of it's that maybe you did Undead Burg with a phantom and he killed him without you realizing it.

    Really, I've never heard of a glitch like that.

    That actually makes perfect sense. How about that for griefing a guy's game...kill Havel secretly so he loses the ring.
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    Post by User Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:26 pm

    I lost Solaire due to me going a different course, reaching towards his standing point around the taurus demon (didn't kill that boss, I went threw New Londo VIA Water Gate). He wasn't their, and now I can't lay down a white summon sign for one of my characters. sad
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    Post by Serious_Much Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:31 pm

    Acidic_Cook wrote:I lost Solaire due to me going a different course, reaching towards his standing point around the taurus demon (didn't kill that boss, I went threw New Londo VIA Water Gate). He wasn't their, and now I can't lay down a white summon sign for one of my characters. sad

    I've done that shortcut most faith playthroughs for a while now.. He appears still when i do that
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    Post by User Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:35 pm

    Well, he didn't for me. i summoned him at the gargoyles too before I even talked to him. Sigh, I can not get my soapstone for my character until NG+, it seems.
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    Post by HelmHammerhand Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:42 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:I've never heard of him disappearing. It's very strange, did you tried going to a different area, reloading your game, and then coming back to the basement?

    The only thing I can think of it's that maybe you did Undead Burg with a phantom and he killed him without you realizing it.

    Really, I've never heard of a glitch like that.

    Wow, I really hope that's not the case but I think you may be right. I wanted to try the summoning mechanic and the dude I summoned went off without me and killed the Black Knight. So, he probably killed Havel, but shouldn't his ring still be there? I thought items don't dissapear.

    I don't see the pleasure of ruining someone else's game experience. That part of the DS community is a real bummer.
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    Post by HelmHammerhand Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:29 pm

    Is this going to kill my game? I plan on wearing medium armor through my first playthrough.
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    Post by Teh_hapy_octopus Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:04 pm

    HelmHammerhand wrote:Is this going to kill my game? I plan on wearing medium armor through my first playthrough.

    no medium armor isnt too heavy most people wear it for heavy armor
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    Post by justwant2play Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:13 pm

    Sorry but that ring is gone for good. Once you kill an enemy and he is supposed to drop something if you warp to a different area or die you will no longer see the dropped item. Better get his ring in the new game (or find someone who is generous enough to give you an extra one they have).
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    Post by Danthuyer Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:37 pm

    HelmHammerhand wrote:He's not in the watchtower basement. Can he be anywhere else? Or am I screwed out of his ring?

    what platform are you on and what SL are you ?

    I have s couple on different toons that you are more than welcome to if you meet the criteria happy

    and if I cant help you I'm sure others on these forums have a spare one that they are more than willing to part with
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    Post by lextune Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:08 pm

    What level and system are you?

    Many might be able to drop it for you.
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    Post by ChizFreak Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:34 pm

    HelmHammerhand wrote:Is this going to kill my game? I plan on wearing medium armor through my first playthrough.

    Don't worry, most medium armors builds have high endurance, so if you use Ring of Favor and Protection you should be fine. Havel's ring is mostly used to use heavy armors and combine it with Darkwood Grain Ring but if you are going for medium the RFP it's better than Havel's. You can easily get it by killing Lautrec.
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    Post by Herbo Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:57 pm

    OP if you are in a part of the game where offing Lautrec isn't an option, and you don't get a nice white phantom to drop you a copy of Havel's Ring you do have some more immediate options.

    I'd recommend wearing some lighter armor unless you can get used to fat flops and slow running. The Warrior's starter armor (Hardened Leather) can be snagged from the Gaping Dragon's room off a corpse if you didn't start as a Warrior. If you can get it to +5 or better (easy enough to do if you can get to the Gaping Dragon), it will have comparable stats to the baseline Elite Knight armor and it'll be 10 pounds less. Not a perfect solution, but one that is pretty easy to brew up.


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    Post by Serious_Much Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:58 pm

    Well the positive thing in this thread is there will be one less ninja flipping havels tank griefing in the burg!
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    Post by HelmHammerhand Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:01 pm

    I'm on PS3 and I'm SL 31. I'd appreciate any help from you guys.



    @Serious I have no plans on griefing. I'm mainly interested in jolly co-operation.

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