Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

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    Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:22 am

    Can anyone say for sure what the weapon types with the highest poise breaking numbers are? I've been playing with the DGA a lot lately, and now that I'm getting into higher levels, where I'm not just 1 or 2 hit killing people, I'm really starting to feel the poise breaking nerf on the great axes. People seem to be tanking my attacks much more readily than I remember before the last patch. Seems like I was breaking poise a lot more effectively with the Zweihander. So I'm just wondering what breaks the most poise per swing. Is it the great clubs?


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by Carphil on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:42 am

    Before patch, it was said, but not confirmed that the great lord great sword did more poise damage than others greatswords. Never tried out. The great clubs, 2H rolling attacks seems to alwasy break poise unless you have 100+ . Thats a good weapon to start. But I'm no expert on STR weapons.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:50 am

    I hope its not the GLGS. I'm not real big on GS's in general. I much prefer the UGS's


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by Kyōkai on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:41 am

    Actually, I've been quite curious about how well the Lucerne poise breaks. Is the poise damage it deals the same as the rest of the halberds? I think I've seen someone mention that it's slightly more powerful. The R1 attacks looks like it walks the talk as well. Although I do still dislike the R1 attacks that the Lucerne has to offer. Lacking in both speed and range. Though I'm unsure right now.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:53 am

    I actually like the Lucerne a lot. I'm yet to make a build based around it, and am unsure of it's poise breaking ability, but I've used it as a secondary weapon a few times now, and it's yet to let me down. Thrust damage is nice to have.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by Kyōkai on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:59 am

    PlasticandRage wrote:I actually like the Lucerne a lot. I'm yet to make a build based around it, and am unsure of it's poise breaking ability, but I've used it as a secondary weapon a few times now, and it's yet to let me down. Thrust damage is nice to have.

    Leo Ring is awesome. But I wish that rumour about the Barbed Straight Sword being able to dish out full thrust damage with each and every one of its attacks was true, though. Would make life much easier. :mask-sack: Or was it capable of doing that before and was patched?


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:12 am

    This is all one big research test to be made! I'll see what I can do but I'll need the weapons people want to know and test subjects. For the moment the zei weapon(too tired to think) breaks my 70 poise though I'm not sure if it was that or enhanced by something. I'm going to do it so start naming the weapons you want.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:22 am

    ^ If you've got a higher SL toon, I'm talking somewhere between 130 and maybe 160ish, I have a couple toons in that range with multiple copies of every weapon in the game. I don't have a day off until Sunday, but I'd be happy to do some testing that day if you're into it.

    I don't think the Barbed SS ever worked with the Leo. I could be wrong about that, but I've never seen it used that way. Only heard rumors and assumptions. It'd make me happy too though. The Barbed SS is another of my favorites.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:45 am

    Curved Swords and Spears probably do the most poise DPS.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:57 am

    Sorry Plastic I forgot to say that I'm xbox. Anyway I think if I host in the painted world and use my toon against the weapons. A few test with a weapon in one hand and again in two hand. I'm thinking of using poise should be where it's considered good. You guys want to see it against gank armor or what poise you want to see?

    Edit: I almost forgot. Anyone on xbox who wants to help pm me your gt so I don't kill you by mistake. I'm using my sl 120 for this. Better to close the chance to get interupted by random invaders.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:11 am

    I'm not sure that 1h/2h makes a difference. Not sure that it changes outside weapon type either. I've only tested the whips though, so I'm not sure how it works outside that weapon type.

    Why would you say spears and curved swords? What sense does that make? I can say for sure that my Zweihander breaks more poise per hit than any spear or small curved sword I've seen.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:19 am

    An enchanted katana and a 2-hand falchion has broken my 70 poise before, though the falchion is debatable from my view. Spears I don't get. Maybe if you have low poise but no high poise.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by PlasticandRage on Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:23 am

    The Falchion can't do more than 30 or 40. It's edge is that it does a decent amount and hits in quick succession. I've had my 80 poise toon's poise broken from one before, but it took several hits, where I've broken the poise of other heavy poise toons with an UGS in one hit. The question is poise break per hit.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by User1 on Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:41 am

    I've noticed the DKGA is great at breaking defenses at about 100 poise, and all the while, still doing loads of damage.
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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by The Letter X on Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:55 am

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Sorry Plastic I forgot to say that I'm xbox. Anyway I think if I host in the painted world and use my toon against the weapons. A few test with a weapon in one hand and again in two hand. I'm thinking of using poise should be where it's considered good. You guys want to see it against gank armor or what poise you want to see?

    Edit: I almost forgot. Anyone on xbox who wants to help pm me your gt so I don't kill you by mistake. I'm using my sl 120 for this. Better to close the chance to get interupted by random invaders.

    I can help you out with this.


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    Re: Most Effective Poise Breaking Weapons

    Post by TheMeInTeam on Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:59 pm

    I think the curved sword/spear suggestion was related to "amount of poise damage"/time. The problem with that is that it assumes someone just stands there to tank multiple hits from either instead of, say, rolling away or parrying.


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