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    Post by Glutebrah on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:17 pm

    Why do I see so many people uusing this weapon all of a sudden? Isn't it just a weaker Falcion, or a gold tracer with out bleed?



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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:29 pm

    Weight+buffability would be my guess.

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    Post by RANT on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:30 pm

    ive been using it for a while on my dex build(which i dont use much) and i use it on my server build. the reason i use it is because its really light nad pretty much the same as the falchion, i little less reach and a little less ar which you can barely notice really.


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    Post by Glutebrah on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:34 pm

    I've heard people say the reach is less, but if you stand still and face the camera to the side and swap between the scimitar and Falcion, they are equal length .


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    Post by RANT on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:41 pm

    Glutebrah wrote:I've heard people say the reach is less, but if you stand still and face the camera to the side and swap between the scimitar and Falcion, they are equal length .

    that' what i mean, the dfference is so little.
    off topic, i fully upgraded my pyro flamce and in the wiki it says 254 but mine iss 230, did they nerf it on the last patch or the wiki hasnt been updated in a while?


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:55 pm

    MugenMonkey says 230. That's what I go by.

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    Post by RANT on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:58 pm

    usually what i do is line up the tip to a wall and then keep switching weapons to measure the difference and the difference between the scimitar and the faclhion is VERY little. also it weights 1 less which can allow you to use more armor or other secondary weapons or shield.


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    Post by Jansports on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:08 pm

    Full Pyro hand has been 230 since like 1.04 or something.
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    Post by RANT on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:09 pm

    Jansports wrote:Full Pyro hand has been 230 since like 1.04 or something.

    thanks guys, i was confused since i rarely use magic anymore, specially pyro.


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    Post by Spurgun on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:41 pm

    IIRC it can also be bought. So it's easier to make a lot of crystal scimitars.
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    Post by PlasticandRage on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:42 pm

    Spurgun wrote:IIRC it can also be bought. So it's easier to make a lot of crystal scimitars.

    Yeah, I think the male undead merchant sells them.

    I still prefer the Falchion. I'd rather have an extra point in weight in exchange for a few extra AR points and a slightly longer reach any day. I've also seen the Falchion get obscene phantom reach in PvP before, and I've never seen the Scimitar do that. Although that's granting that I've seen the Falchion used in PvP a ton more than the Scimitar.


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    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:56 pm

    The fury sword is better anyways. A bit weak, but its extra reach is just amazing, especially with spell support.


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    Post by Glutebrah on Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:04 pm

    Good call on the vender selling them, I might be seeing a lot of crystal ones.


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    Post by Johnthethird on Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:33 pm

    because Some guy started using it.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:52 pm

    sorry that dude did something bad here so his name has been removed in pretty much every instance possible. but yeah he helped popularize the chaos blade and thorns armor, its safe to say thats part of the reason.


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    Post by RANT on Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:57 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:sorry that dude did something bad here so his name has been removed in pretty much every instance possible. but yeah he helped popularize the chaos blade and thorns armor, its safe to say thats part of the reason.

    yeah, chaos blade used to be cool before he ruined it and thorn armor was used a lot before him anyway.


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    Post by Glutebrah on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:08 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:
    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:sorry that dude did something bad here so his name has been removed in pretty much every instance possible. but yeah he helped popularize the chaos blade and thorns armor, its safe to say thats part of the reason.

    yeah, chaos blade used to be cool before he ruined it and thorn armor was used a lot before him anyway.

    I turned to chaos blade when I turned my back on weapon buffs. And Thorns armor was sweet pre dwgr nerf for the roll damage to cancel backs tabs.


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    Post by EeAyEss on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:37 pm

    Even now I supplement my pvp builds with thorn guantlets so I can cancel out backstabs... all I need to do is work on my rolling direction silly

    I watch some streamers, and I take notes on their play styles, namely what they do that I don't. Then I make sure to practice.... I like pvp.


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    Post by Glutebrah on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:04 pm

    Wait the gloves cause roll damage?? I thought only the chest piece did...

    Wow I feel so dumb... Time to swap gloves when I get home


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    Post by EeAyEss on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:10 pm

    LOL all of the thorn armor inflicts damage...

    I'm glad I shared... happy


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    Post by Anchises on Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:58 am

    I'm using the scimitar also for previously mentioned reasons. Its weight compared to katanas lets me keep my equip weight down so I save a nice amount of lvls in endurance, and strength too, for my dex builds. Between the scimitar and other curved swords, I prefer the way it looks to the falchion and the reach of the pg sword is hard to deal with(personally).

    I used to use it DMB buffed, but I just ended up mashing two handed RB/R1 (which does beastly damage) but I quickly got bored of that build.

    I don't really get why Chaos Blade gets so much guff. I don't see it all that often in pvp, and it makes sense to use over other katanas- it has higher AR, it builds bleed quicker, and it has stylish albeit impractical hard attacks. All you sacrifice are useful hard attacks, some weight, the self damage, and 2 lvls in strength. Should players not use weapons they think are better or cooler?


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    Post by Anchises on Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:01 am

    Oh and it's simply easier to get a fully upgraded Chaos Blade, since demon titanite is SO much easier to farm than titanite slabs, which is another reason I use it over the other katanas


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    Post by Juutas on Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:22 am

    Honestly there is no reason to use scimitar other than it's cool as f*ck (imo).
    It weights the same as PGS, but PGS does more dmg and also has bleed so...yeah.
    Sometimes I dream about scimitar being the only curved sword with the ability to kick so it would actually be viable.


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    Post by Jansports on Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:08 am

    Juutas wrote:Honestly there is no reason to use scimitar other than it's cool as f*ck (imo).
    It weights the same as PGS, but PGS does more dmg and also has bleed so...yeah.
    Sometimes I dream about scimitar being the only curved sword with the ability to kick so it would actually be viable.

    A Curved sword that can Kick?!

    10/10 would upgrade to crystal!

    This reminds me I always feel like weapons in the same class should all have perks, like say Falchion gets the highest AR, Gold tracer is kind of a jack of all trade, PGS has the best bleed, Scimitar has a unique moveset including a kick, Shotel can R2 around shields.

    It's be like this for all types, Rapiers retain bonus crit, estoc has length and raw AR, Ricards has it's super r2, Actually I find piercing swords a great example of what I'd want ideally for each class of weapon.

    But this post is now a little off topic, apologies.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:56 am

    there is a way to make a curved sword kick, its called the egg head, it replaces all forward r1 attacks with the eggkick.


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