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    Post by raecor14 Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:02 am

    well of late the PVP has been rather bland. while i use and think many others use the lords blade set i am sick of the gold tracer/dark magic/black flame builds. i miss taking pride in the fact i was one of a select few people who used curved swords and now everyone is useing it because it is a tad OP (not complaining about it but yeah it really is) because it has bleed and almost as good AR as a falchion! so anywhere where i can PVP where people have some originality?
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:06 am

    I usually either go to the Forest, the Kiln, or the Duke's Archives. There're usually a fare amount of players to connect with in those places, and I've had a decent amount of goods fights in all of them. Although, like anywhere else, you get cheesed just as much. I still have good fights in the DLC area too though.
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    Post by raecor14 Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:12 am

    PlasticandRage wrote:I usually either go to the Forest, the Kiln, or the Duke's Archives. There're usually a fare amount of players to connect with in those places, and I've had a decent amount of goods fights in all of them. Although, like anywhere else, you get cheesed just as much. I still have good fights in the DLC area too though.
    i get about 50/50 in the township, the funny part is though most of the guys i loose too are using non-dlc items ^_^
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:29 am

    I've had some decent PvP in the Abyss. Maybe half of them have phantoms when I invade, but that's fun for a whole other set of reasons. Have you played in the arena at all? That can be really fun. You run into the occasional d bag who does everything they can in order to cheese their way up the leader board, but I've run into a much higher number of players who are just there to have fun.
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    Post by raecor14 Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:16 am

    i have used the arena, but theres nothing like a good invasion :'(
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:04 am

    Yeah, I'll give you that. I had a pretty productive night in the Archives. Try there maybe? In probably 2 hours, I ran into maybe 7 or 8 players, and only one of them wanted something other than a good fight. He kept coming in and fighting, getting rolled, then sprinting away behind enemies and healing. Did it probably 5 times, and then didn't come back the last time and disconnected his internet. Cracked me up. Idiot doesn't know how to use the BSC. Hahaha.
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    Post by Juutas Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:34 am

    If you happen to own Xbox, come to Burg, it has started to be revived again and some of the best players are there quite frequently like it was before.
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    Post by Automancer Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:30 am

    Ugh, Gold Tracers... Nothing against them but the freaking spammers that camp at your spawn point and they give you the "Well, what is it" gesture when you die... =_=
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    Post by raecor14 Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:32 am

    exactly, i actually prefer the falchion....
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    Post by The Letter X Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:33 am

    Juutas wrote:If you happen to own Xbox, come to Burg, it has started to be revived again and some of the best players are there quite frequently like it was before.

    Are you getting these players while invading or hosting? If both that'd be even better.
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    Post by Automancer Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:37 am

    raecor14 wrote:exactly, i actually prefer the falchion....

    To be honest, all the Curved Swords are awesome and have their own unique style. The Gold Tracer just happens to be the prey of "noobish" player that aim the easy way out. And when i say noobish, i don't mean amateur or novice player, i'mn talking about the ****-infested players that dirty the game.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:11 am

    Tbh i noticed this way before hte DLC peopel would stack poise and just press R1 constantly.........I have only ever seen a handful of people use a curved sword the way they are meant to be used sad
    makes me sad
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    Post by raecor14 Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:53 am

    billy_bayonet wrote:Tbh i noticed this way before hte DLC peopel would stack poise and just press R1 constantly.........I have only ever seen a handful of people use a curved sword the way they are meant to be used sad
    makes me sad
    yeah but at least before the DLC everyone had another whacking stick ahahaha
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    Post by Bioraptor Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:22 am

    Automancer wrote:Ugh, Gold Tracers... Nothing against them but the freaking spammers that camp at your spawn point and they give you the "Well, what is it" gesture when you die... =_=
    This i am starting to hate the DLC  2324285107 get's right on my tits.Them giving it the big charlie potatoes when all they have done is jumped you......But I guess this is why they do it.....i am starting to hate the DLC  1330857165
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    Post by Bioraptor Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:30 am

    billy_bayonet wrote:Tbh i noticed this way before hte DLC peopel would stack poise and just press R1 constantly.........I have only ever seen a handful of people use a curved sword the way they are meant to be used sad
    makes me sad
    Billy every time I see a post by you I alway's get hungry....The size of that sandwich your eating in your avatar is fracken unreall man.....:cyclops:
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    Post by Automancer Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:20 pm

    Bioraptor wrote:
    Automancer wrote:Ugh, Gold Tracers... Nothing against them but the freaking spammers that camp at your spawn point and they give you the "Well, what is it" gesture when you die... =_=
    This i am starting to hate the DLC  2324285107 get's right on my tits.Them giving it the big charlie potatoes when all they have done is jumped you......But I guess this is why they do it.....i am starting to hate the DLC  1330857165

    Some people just want the easy way out. Oh well. I love the Gold Tracers but it's people like these that give such a beautiful weapon a bad name. =S
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:37 pm

    I actually have a Gold Tracer toon, and I'm noticing that it's starting to become less and less useful. At least against the right players. Those R2 attacks are nice for causing quick bleed, but against a confident player you're just setting yourself up to be parried over and over again. That's at least been my experience with it the last few times I've PvPed with that toon. It's forcing me to be more creative with it than I was originally
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    Post by Automancer Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:45 pm

    PlasticandRage wrote:I actually have a Gold Tracer toon, and I'm noticing that it's starting to become less and less useful. At least against the right players. Those R2 attacks are nice for causing quick bleed, but against a confident player you're just setting yourself up to be parried over and over again. That's at least been my experience with it the last few times I've PvPed with that toon. It's forcing me to be more creative with it than I was originally

    Despite the awesome bleed buildup, i feel that the Gold Tracer does better in the offhand in terms of surprise attacks. I've noticed that using the L2 of the Gold Tracer allows me to cancel some of my R1/R2 combos.
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:47 pm

    That's interesting. I'll have to try that
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    Post by Sentiel Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:11 pm

    Bioraptor wrote:This i am starting to hate the DLC  2324285107 get's right on my tits.
    This is quite disgusting.

    About the Gold Tracer...

    I use it myself, quite a lot.
    Do you want to know why?
    Because I like that golden effect.
    Yes, I don't care about damage, or bleed, I just like that gold, shiny trace after it's attacks.

    Anyway, as a weapon, it's popular 2H R1 spam is easy to parry, not to mention it costs a dungload of stamina to keep up and you can exploit that aginst it's user. Also, when I use Chaos Blade, I just go trade hits with them. Soon, they relaize I not only do more damage, but I break their Poise and do bleed faster as well and then they die. twisted
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    Post by Djem Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:08 pm

    I prefer Kiln for PvP, but last I checked it was pretty desolate.
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    Post by Automancer Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:16 pm

    Djem wrote:I prefer Kiln for PvP, but last I checked it was pretty desolate.

    The Kiln is unfortunately filled with trash. Gankers, spawn campers and the like. Geographically not the best way to PvP either.
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    Post by Juutas Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:28 pm

    The Letter X wrote:
    Juutas wrote:If you happen to own Xbox, come to Burg, it has started to be revived again and some of the best players are there quite frequently like it was before.

    Are you getting these players while invading or hosting? If both that'd be even better.

    Kinda both happy
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    Post by MasterofShadows Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:45 pm

    I use the gold tracer alot, but I'm a 0 poise player, so it balances out. The thing is, if you don't know how to parry, use WoG, or use your poise to counter attack, then you deserve to get bleeded up. Its an aggressive weapon. Its main strength is its ridiculous bleed buildup. Its also meant to be the dex player's answer to super high poise. So expect players that will try to slice you to ribbons in seconds. That's the point. However, as with almost anything in the game, there are ways to deal with it. I know this, because whenever I come up against more calm and experienced players, they seem to fair much better against me than the others do.
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    Post by Sentiel Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:02 pm

    I also prefer Kiln for PvP, but I just don't like the place.
    I'm usually hosting and I never stumbled upon someone who just runs off and hides behind black knights in Kiln, but in Township, more than half, HALF of the people that invade me, just run away to hide behind the four mobs down the stairs.

    I could understand that if I was ganking, but I'm always alone. I buff, let them buff and then they just hightail it out of there. I tried TWoPing them, but they just wait it out and run away afterwards. It's just ridiculous.

    Unlike Kiln, where most of my fights were fair, with the exception of the rare bow backstabber, in Township, I usually ended up getting killed by NG+ mobs, rewarded with Well What is it .

    Well, not anymore. When I see someone run away, I simply log off PSN and f*ck them cowards, but it's still annoying as hell.

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