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    Balder Side Sword

    Post by User1 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:25 pm

    I think that this sword is great, since it's adaptable to all environments and enemies, and with buffs (Crystal Magic Wep, Power Within) it makes an almost unstoppable force, especially for a dex build. Anyone else think this weapon is good, or is it just me?
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:36 pm

    I think everyone thinks that this is a good weapon. lol!


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Spurgun on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:37 pm

    Yeah, it's known to be one of the best dex weapons silly
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:42 pm

    Unstoppable? No, no. Sure, it's good but nothing beats my Falchion! *sarcasm* lol!

    No, seriously. It's a matter of preference.
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by lalliman on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:45 pm

    They call it the balder swag sword for a reason :D
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:50 pm

    I respect the weapon. It is very good and very easy to use, but I still hate it!

    Two reasons...

    1. 9/10 buff builds use it. It's annoying to fight the same thing over and over again. Not to mention that no other straight sword gets so much love and attention as BSS. I've tried them all and except for Astora's, which is really weak, all other straight swords are very viable.

    2. It's goddamn ugly. Looks like a toothpick to me. :|

    I seriously got offended today when I killed someone with my brand new Dex/Faith. The guy messaged me that I'm a pathetic BSS noob.
    I used a f*cking Estoc for the whole fight. Look Skyward

    My rant aside. It's a really good weapon. If I didn't care about aesthetics more than effectivness, I would use it as well. Prostration


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by User1 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:51 pm

    Sentiel wrote:I respect the weapon. It is very good and very easy to use, but I still hate it!

    Two reasons...

    1. 9/10 buff builds use it. It's annoying to fight the same thing over and over again. Not to mention that no other straight sword gets so much love and attention as BSS. I've tried them all and except for Astora's, which is really weak, all other straight swords are very viable.

    2. It's goddamn ugly. Looks like a toothpick to me. :|

    I seriously got offended today when I killed someone with my brand new Dex/Faith. The guy messaged me that I'm a pathetic BSS noob.
    I used a f*cking Estoc for the whole fight.

    My rant aside. It's a really good weapon. If I didn't care about aesthetics more than effectivness, I would use it as well.
    Good points, but, just out of curiosity, how do you always find my threads?
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:52 pm

    I feel that the Darksword and Sunlight SS are better than the BSS though. It's kinda tragic to hear some people say that there's no other reason to pick any other straight swords because of the BSS. *facepalm*


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:04 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:Good points, but, just out of curiosity, how do you always find my threads?
    Thanks.

    Hmmm...
    I dunno.
    Maybe I'm stalking you :mask-averice:
    Or maybe we just happen to be interested in similar threads.

    I read almost everything going on in here to be honest.

    Automancer wrote:I feel that the Darksword and Sunlight SS are better than the BSS though. It's kinda tragic to hear some people say that there's no other reason to pick any other straight swords because of the BSS. *facepalm*
    Exactly.
    Out of all straight swords, only BSS gets all the love and attention.
    I personally like Sunlight on my quality build and Silver Knight's on my Dex build.

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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:10 pm

    ^ Don't forget the guard break on that Silver Knight SS. So juicy!


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by The Letter X on Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:36 pm

    Automancer wrote:I feel that the Darksword and Sunlight SS are better than the BSS though. It's kinda tragic to hear some people say that there's no other reason to pick any other straight swords because of the BSS. *facepalm*

    It honestly is the best straightsword for SL 100 builds and lower since it doesn't have c/c scaling. It also only weighs 3 pounds and has the coveted thrusting R2 attack that can do well over 1k when buffed and paired with the Leo Ring.

    The Darksword is my favorite straightsword, but I like SL 100 builds and don't lIke the BSS so I just stay away from straightswords altogether unless I'm playing on a SL 120+ build.


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:16 pm

    ^ C/C scalings will always be better than a single B scaling. The more stats you can scale from, the better. Many feel that the Daksword's R2 is trash but it is good for wake-up counters and for that surprise element. It's gotten me good kills in the past.


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by The Letter X on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:23 pm

    Once again, lower level builds. SL 100 builds generally don't have room to go 40/40, and even if they do they are sacrificing health and stamina/equip load. So now you're sacrificing those 3 things along with weight compared to the other straightswords and the piercing attack from the BSS.

    And do I need to repeat myself when I say the Darksword is still my favorite straightsword?


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Jansports on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:30 pm

    SL100 can comfortably go 27/40 Which is enough if you 2 hand , the SSS has really good 2h moveset, it's a very underrated weapon.

    @BSS. The Baller Swag is famous for a reason. It's light, long, has literally the best Straight Sword moveset (double trust heavies) I mean the thing is somewhere between a longsword and a Spear with those Heavy attacks. It was the first weapon I beat Gwyn with (ha how lucky I was I got one on my first playthrough while I was trying to farm shards off balder knights)
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by lalliman on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:35 pm

    The Letter X wrote:And do I need to repeat myself when I say the Darksword is still my favorite straightsword?

    In my experience it's just a broadsword, but heavier. Am i missing something about it?
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:41 pm

    lalliman wrote:
    The Letter X wrote:And do I need to repeat myself when I say the Darksword is still my favorite straightsword?

    In my experience it's just a broadsword, but heavier. Am i missing something about it?

    The movesets. Even at lower levels like SL100, with 27/40, that Darksword can do scary damage.

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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by User1 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:42 pm

    lalliman wrote:
    The Letter X wrote:And do I need to repeat myself when I say the Darksword is still my favorite straightsword?

    In my experience it's just a broadsword, but heavier. Am i missing something about it?
    Yes. It had good scaling, good boosts from reinforcement and even though I said Balder Swag Sword is my favourite, I still think the Darksword is great. Also, the Broadsword is slower, wider attack range, bad in narrow spaces, and leaves you wide open when a power attack fails. You can tell I hate it happy
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by The Letter X on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:43 pm

    lalliman wrote:
    The Letter X wrote:And do I need to repeat myself when I say the Darksword is still my favorite straightsword?

    In my experience it's just a broadsword, but heavier. Am i missing something about it?

    It has C/C scaling so can be good on quality and 40/40 builds. Its heavy attack combo has an irregular parry timing and is very stylish. I personally just like the way it looks, therefore it is my favorite.

    I was trying to explain that I didn't think it was useless.


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:48 pm

    The Letter X wrote:
    lalliman wrote:
    The Letter X wrote:And do I need to repeat myself when I say the Darksword is still my favorite straightsword?

    In my experience it's just a broadsword, but heavier. Am i missing something about it?

    It has C/C scaling so can be good on quality and 40/40 builds. Its heavy attack combo has an irregular parry timing and is very stylish. I personally just like the way it looks, therefore it is my favorite.

    I was trying to explain that I didn't think it was useless.

    You are amongst a few that love other SS than the BSS. No need to explain. happy
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Sloth9230 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:12 pm

    Even at lvl 300+ It's still my main weapon. I prefer the Darksword looks wise, but that thrust attack is just to good to give up.

    And the Sunlight straight sword just looks ehhh. I might use it if i ever get a titanite slab off of a Darkwraith, but I doubt it.


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by kazumoshi on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:18 am

    B-b-but everyone, what about the drake sword?

    In all seriousness, I actually prefer the barbed sword in some occasions for leo builds for its pure thrusting damage.


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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Automancer on Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:49 am

    kazumoshi wrote:B-b-but everyone, what about the drake sword?

    In all seriousness, I actually prefer the barbed sword in some occasions for leo builds for its pure thrusting damage.

    The Barbed sword is awesome. Decent AR with bleed. My go-to weapon sometimes. Drake Sword? Meh.
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by lalliman on Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:34 am

    Wow i got like 4 replies to my broadsword comment silly Lemme confess that i haven't used either of them a lot, so i guess y'all are right about the better moveset.

    though:
    The Letter X wrote:It has C/C scaling so can be good on quality and 40/40 builds.
    RenegadeCop wrote:Yes. It had good scaling, good boosts from reinforcement
    I'm pretty damn sure they have the same scaling and damage, no matter the upgrade...

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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by User1 on Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:33 am

    lalliman wrote:Wow i got like 4 replies to my broadsword comment silly Lemme confess that i haven't used either of them a lot, so i guess y'all are right about the better moveset.

    though:
    The Letter X wrote:It has C/C scaling so can be good on quality and 40/40 builds.
    RenegadeCop wrote:Yes. It had good scaling, good boosts from reinforcement
    I'm pretty damn sure they have the same scaling and damage, no matter the upgrade...
    You must have misinterpretated. I meant that since the Darksword has equal dex and str requirements to wield it, it will scale an equal amount, for each of the two you improve. The broadsword is str focused, so it has bad dex scaling.
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    Re: Balder Side Sword

    Post by Djem on Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:00 pm

    lalliman wrote:They call it the balder swag sword for a reason big grin

    Lol! That's the first time I'm hearing that name.

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