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    Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by MiketheMushroomMan on Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:50 pm

    Apart from Demons Souls of Course?

    For me there are none. But prior to experiencing Dark Souls i had very high regard for the following:

    Shadow of the Colossus - A great work - perhaps PS2 finest game - and perhaps closer in spirit to Dark Souls than most.

    Dark Chronicle (Dark Cloud 2) - a gorgeous and very fun and playable RPG.

    Dragon Quest 8 - ditto.

    Bioshock - beautiful and haunting FPS set in a wonderfully realised dystopia

    Half Life 2 - Another thoroughly absorbing Action Adventure.

    GTA Vice City- Music, Style, freedom, a very entertaining sandbox game.

    However - none of the above could i consider to be works of genius that transcend their medium. Dark Souls on the other hand can be compared with any great work of art and stand up well against it imo
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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by SillentShadow on Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:07 pm

    Hummmm.

    Baldurs gate first 2 games;

    The first DOOM;

    Half Life (the first game beats the secind by far far away);

    Halo Combat Evolved;

    Jagged Alliance 2;

    War of the Worlds;

    Monkey Island;

    Morrowind (WAY better tha skyrim)

    (Yup all old but gold games, these were all marks for me, as dark souls was)
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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by deadagain on Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:06 pm

    Tenchu is the only game besides demons and Dark that ruined all other games for me for a long time. Soon the flames will fade and you will be able to try other games. As of now I am trying to force myself to play other games, Ive decided to go the racing game route since I cant compare those to the souls games. Right now Im on GT5 and its pretty cool, I havnt played anything but rpg and action games in so long that this is a nice break, I actually relax when Im playing.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Automancer on Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:27 pm

    Shadow of the Colossus does not need anyone to defend it because it's simply amazing. It revolutionized boss battles. Sorry but F*CK quicktime events.

    I would say the .hack series. The lore in the entire 'franchise' is mind blowing.
    Also, the lore of the entire Zone of the Enders series, from all the way back to the Gameboy series.
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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by The Letter X on Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:42 pm

    Armored Core: For Answer is the only game that I enjoy playing besides Dark Souls at the moment.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Djem on Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:27 pm

    Shadow of the Colossus, man... That game is closer in story telling to Dark Souls than any other game. It gives you nothing, along with everything... Just like Dark Souls, it had lots of players searching for the tiniest bit of knowledge years after it was released...

    Unlike our Pendant, at the end it worked out for them though. If I remember correctly, someone found a dam from ICO (previous game by the producer) hidden away somewhere in the game, obviously not meant for players to find.

    Keep believing people. One day we will find our dam too. One day.
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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Djem on Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:31 pm

    Here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvpcwR7Omdg

    The video is uploaded by the guy who originally found the dam too. Respect to that guy for not giving up. The Dark Souls community will probably completely stop searching when the second game is released.
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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Everynevers on Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:40 pm

    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

    It's not similar in design, gameplay or story, lol... The similarity is that I've not respected any game designers as much as the SotN team before the Souls games came along. I played it around the time it came out at a friend's place and thought I had beat it... Years later I remembered I really liked it so I bought it for XBL... then I found out that I only had done the false ending (less than half of the game). When I flipped the map, my brain 'sploded!! Such a brilliant move, imHo.

    Shadow of the Colossus came out while I was sequestered in college so I never played it but always wanted to; so I got the HD collection with Ico. If it wasn't for DkS, I'd have finished them by now but I have trouble bringing myself out of playing DkS =/ ... that said, lovely game. Difficult for me too.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:06 pm

    Other games I love in no order:

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    Shadow of the Colussus: Amazing game if you look at it from another view. Vast and lonely, with conflicting moral life goals. Defy everything from the begining to save the one you love? would you?

    Oblivion: Only other Elder Scroll game I still have (don't ask about Morrowind). I don't know why but I find that skyrim lacks the lasting value that keeps me playing it. I like Oblivion better.

    Prince of Persia warrior within and 2 Thrones: Two hard games of my youth, these two had action, a bad*** main character, and a combat style I find is borderline sadism. Oh I forgot: you control time! I prefer these over some of the Assassain creed games.

    Assassain's Creed: I know I'm countering myself with the above one, but some games were better than others. I like the gameplay and the whole you are something normally feared yet are helping the common folk. I have a hard time finding a game that uses stealth killing like this. I would say try the first, brotherhood and, revalations.

    .hack: A ps2 series that was better than I thought it was. The music was great, the story makes sense in a way. The ability to hack the enemy was always fun to do. and character dialogue was to me funny when it needed to and serious when it need to. Though I think it got better which each new game.

    Finally Castlevania: Lords of Shadow: It's a hard game, not that anyone should be suprised. But It's a good 3d one. The combat is tough and wide when you get upgrades, paltforming is a little challenging at times but do able.

    Are these better or close to Dark Souls and Demon Souls? No but if I ever lose my copy, I'm playing these till I get it again.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Isirith on Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:26 pm

    The Letter X wrote:Armored Core: For Answer is the only game that I enjoy playing besides Dark Souls at the moment.

    Some.. Someone... Someone else.. A-actually plays this..?
    I-I.. I thought I was the only one..

    I'm actually speechless.


    Also...
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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by The Letter X on Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:36 pm

    Isirith wrote:
    The Letter X wrote:Armored Core: For Answer is the only game that I enjoy playing besides Dark Souls at the moment.

    Some.. Someone... Someone else.. A-actually plays this..?
    I-I.. I thought I was the only one..

    I'm actually speechless.


    Also...
    :bas:

    Pfft, of course someone else plays it! We've still got thousands hundreds dozens ... I can probably count the people who still play the game on one hand, but I'm glad someone else plays it.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Slarg232 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:28 am

    I think Legend of Zelda is the only game that really compares to Dark Souls game-wise (It's kinda like "Babies first Souls", but not in a bad way).



    The only two games that really revolutionized my way of thinking were Secret of Mana on the SNES, and Shadow of the Collosus.

    Though with SotC, if most people thought that the last Collosus was to be pitied, is it bad that I was thinking grinning like a fool while I killed him?


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:42 am

    Slarg232 wrote:Though with SotC, if most people thought that the last Collosus was to be pitied, is it bad that I was thinking grinning like a fool while I killed him?

    In our defense the thing was somewhat the reason we lost our horse, and to me if we killed it faster those pricks may not have gotten to the temple before we did. Man I really did not think many here would know these games! It is welcoming.

    On topic: How did I not think of Zelda? Some of those games are to me the stepping stones to hard gameing.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Isirith on Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:55 pm

    The Letter X wrote:
    Isirith wrote:
    The Letter X wrote:Armored Core: For Answer is the only game that I enjoy playing besides Dark Souls at the moment.

    Some.. Someone... Someone else.. A-actually plays this..?
    I-I.. I thought I was the only one..

    I'm actually speechless.


    Also...
    :bas:

    Pfft, of course someone else plays it! We've still got thousands hundreds dozens ... I can probably count the people who still play the game on one hand, but I'm glad someone else plays it.

    I've been told to use Assault Armor less.. sad
    But I like the sound it makes!


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by RANT on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:23 pm

    Monster Hunter games, i have about a thousand hours with greatswords only on unite, if you thought the souls series was hardcore you havent seen anything yet.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Oran_G_Coon on Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:38 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:Monster Hunter games, i have about a thousand hours with greatswords only on unite, if you thought the souls series was hardcore you havent seen anything yet.

    Comrade, while I agree that the Monster Hunter series is pretty awesome (endless boss fights and flying tails) I have to say that, even with the PSP's messed up camera set up, there is no way MH is harder than the Souls Series. When I got back to playing Unite and Tri, I was dodging EVERYTHING man! Going from a puny stamina bar to nearly limitless stamina (and that's before using the energy drinks!) - made me wonder why I wasn't slaughtering them like that before.


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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:33 am

    both .hack ps2 trilogies, good music and interesting concepts, the monster hunter games (always chasing tail, much like dark souls lol), the soul reaver series, Phantom brave (srpg)


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    Post by CaptanSpudsy on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:55 am

    I've yet to find an equal to DkS...
    Asides from Half Life 1 & 2, but I've not played as many games as other people.


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    Post by GkMrBane on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:36 pm

    The Letter X wrote:Armored Core: For Answer is the only game that I enjoy playing besides Dark Souls at the moment.

    The battles with other mechs were so fast it was awesome.

    Got S on every mission even the one where you have to fight like 5 mech at the same time was one of the hardest battles I've ever had in any game.


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    Post by The Letter X on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:39 pm

    GkMrBane wrote:
    The Letter X wrote:Armored Core: For Answer is the only game that I enjoy playing besides Dark Souls at the moment.

    The battles with other mechs were so fast it was awesome.

    Got S on every mission even the one where you have to fight like 5 mech at the same time was one of the hardest battles I've ever had in any game.

    I'm still at an A or B on that one. I can consistently beat it, but never got S.

    The dialogue in the game is also unmatched. Old Dog said the original "It is what it is."


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    Post by RANT on Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:01 pm

    Oran_G_Coon wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:Monster Hunter games, i have about a thousand hours with greatswords only on unite, if you thought the souls series was hardcore you havent seen anything yet.

    Comrade, while I agree that the Monster Hunter series is pretty awesome (endless boss fights and flying tails) I have to say that, even with the PSP's messed up camera set up, there is no way MH is harder than the Souls Series. When I got back to playing Unite and Tri, I was dodging EVERYTHING man! Going from a puny stamina bar to nearly limitless stamina (and that's before using the energy drinks!) - made me wonder why I wasn't slaughtering them like that before.

    yo found it a lot easier because you had played it, can you honoestly tell me that the first time you played it solo it was easier than demon's or dark souls? it took me forever to beat the Monster Hunter mission in unite(tri is easy mode btw) the best one is freedom 2 imo, so damn hard it made me rage pretty much every day on my first play through. i always solo everything then coop since its a lot eaiser to make all the armors and weapons.


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    Post by bla on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:29 pm

    Despite the great minimalistic storytelling and rpg aspects, dark souls is, for me, about combat.

    In that regard only two games match dark souls in my opinion (not counting demon's)
    Severance blade of darkness (blade the edge of darkness in the US) and Oni.
    Truly enjoyable combat.

    Thumbs up for Symphony of the night as well. While trying to get a friend to play dark souls I described it as a mix of SOTN and severance, games we both loved.
    Also, massive balls on the creators of SOTN: actually risking to "hide" half of their great game for the sake of a massive secret ending.
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    Re: Are there any other video games that are worthy of comparison?

    Post by Tomhet on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:41 am

    Soul Reaver series, the gameplay itself is not very evolved but in terms of story it's just as refined as the Souls games.
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    Post by Bioraptor on Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:05 am

    Djem wrote:Here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvpcwR7Omdg

    The video is uploaded by the guy who originally found the dam too. Respect to that guy for not giving up. The Dark Souls community will probably completely stop searching when the second game is released.
    Haven knows how I missed this one.I played a lot of PS2 games back in the day but never came across this game.More the pitty for me as I have just seen the 13th an 14th and to be honest there is no way I would have figured out how to strip its rock armour to kill it.....but the whole world looked fantastic......


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    Post by befowler on Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:37 am

    The original Moria and Angband games in the 90s. A thousand different items and effects to memorize, randomly generated dungeons every time, and one save file per character with perma-death. They were turn-based so you had to think about literally every move, because if your resistance potion happened to wear off the turn before a full strength chaos drake decided to blast you, your 50th level paladin was going to turn back into a level 1 pumpkin in a hurry. There was also no cap on mob summons, so if you step through a door just as a death lord summons an archlich, the archlich summons 10 liches, each lich can then summon 10 nether wraiths, each of which can then summon 10 barrow wights, etc, and suddenly your laptop is on the other side of the room. This goes way back, but I think you can still find them online if you really want to lose a year of your life.


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