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    Post by SillentShadow Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:56 am

    So i am getting so pvp action again after i lost my accounts.

    Care to share some thoughts on this new build?

    What would you change?

    I am currently lvl 50 so i can re arranje nearly everything.



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    Post by reim0027 Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:03 pm

    What's your target SL?
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    Post by Jansports Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:29 pm

    I think 99/100 for fightclubs arenas ect.

    If so honestly despite it being somewhat unoriginal, WoG really is hotness when offhanding a weapon (I used to offhand a GSycthe with SLB, that R2 sweep!)
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    Post by SillentShadow Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:08 pm

    Its for 100 SL. So opinions opinions?



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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:40 pm

    I'm doing an in-depth look here:

    Spoiler:

    Hopes this helps!
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:47 pm

    http://mmdks.com/jxc could work man.
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    Post by SillentShadow Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:00 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:I'm doing an in-depth look here:

    Spoiler:

    Hopes this helps!



    Hi! i am not to found of poise. winking I get some stunlocks for sure but i like the fast roll. And having no poise makes the victories feel way better;)

    I believe you are right about power within, i shall replace for example with karmic justice wich might even save me from a stunlock
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    Post by SillentShadow Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:02 pm

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:http://mmdks.com/jxc could work man.



    I feel like the low endurance will give me a hard time no?

    And the extra 10 points in faith wont give me the punch needed for the extra 10 levels or would they?
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:04 pm

    no they wouldn't - drop to 30 faith and change Darkmoon to Canvas Talisman and you can raise it like this: http://mmdks.com/jxe
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    Post by SillentShadow Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:11 pm

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:no they wouldn't - drop to 30 faith and change Darkmoon to Canvas Talisman and you can raise it like this: [url=http://mmdks.com/jxe
    http://mmdks.com/jxe[/quote[/url]]



    Seems better with that shield. More stable too! And 95% physical resistance to trigger karmic justice. Just might be MEAN!!! ahahahahah winking
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:13 pm

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:no they wouldn't - drop to 30 faith and change Darkmoon to Canvas Talisman and you can raise it like this: http://mmdks.com/jxe

    Seems durable but since the patch I find the dark wood ring a bit useless and Silent can still use the fast roll. Maybe replace that with the cloranthy ring for the stamina boost. Better yet use the ring of the firstborn for it's 20% miracle increase. Maybe swap the grass shield for the santus, or one that covers the fire area.
    But if your are going to use karma, it's your choice.

    Edit: That link did not come out right in the quote.
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    Post by SillentShadow Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:34 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:
    TehInfamousAmos wrote:no they wouldn't - drop to 30 faith and change Darkmoon to Canvas Talisman and you can raise it like this: http://mmdks.com/jxe

    Seems durable but since the patch I find the dark wood ring a bit useless and Silent can still use the fast roll. Maybe replace that with the cloranthy ring for the stamina boost. Better yet use the ring of the firstborn for it's 20% miracle increase. Maybe swap the grass shield for the santus, or one that covers the fire area.
    But if your are going to use karma, it's your choice.

    Edit: That link did not come out right in the quote.



    Hummmmm i do not find the Dark wood ring an essencial and can be swapable even for FAP wich gives me quite the boost in health and equip load, while still fast rolling and will allow me to swap the crest shield with the black knight shield for fire protection and still be fast rolling.

    Good idea no?
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:51 pm

    I am saying use DWGR because you can menu swap it to RTSr at low hp - so you essentially have 100% I-frames until your hit 20% life when you can then hit for like 700+ damage.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:08 pm

    Hitting like a tank is useful but the issue is taking a hit that can activate it but not kill you. I have seen some that go for the offense when you have low hp. If you are quick, you kill them, but that's a 50%. I've fought someone who used a build very similar to this but the error I saw was that he was going offense when I was defense. One missed hit and I killed him. Sure it makes it more challenging but it needs a real balance of offense and defense.
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    Post by SillentShadow Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:34 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Hitting like a tank is useful but the issue is taking a hit that can activate it but not kill you. I have seen some that go for the offense when you have low hp. If you are quick, you kill them, but that's a 50%. I've fought someone who used a build very similar to this but the error I saw was that he was going offense when I was defense. One missed hit and I killed him. Sure it makes it more challenging but it needs a real balance of offense and defense.





    Hum... But can you explain better? What is wrong with the defence of this build? I can use all mid shields and dodge fast. I think its ballanced no?
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:23 pm

    Sorry it was the user not the build that went wrong. After a while fighting this guy I figured he was trying to bleed/cut through my shield by rushing some fast wide hits at me. One hit took a third off me and when we were both low hp he had the RTS and tried to two-hand kill me in a rushed move, and that was the error: a rushed move.

    Point is build is fine, but as with all it depends on the user. I don't doubt you are good, but what I had was a good build that failed by the error of the user.
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    Post by SillentShadow Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:33 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Sorry it was the user not the build that went wrong. After a while fighting this guy I figured he was trying to bleed/cut through my shield by rushing some fast wide hits at me. One hit took a third off me and when we were both low hp he had the RTS and tried to two-hand kill me in a rushed move, and that was the error: a rushed move.

    Point is build is fine, but as with all it depends on the user. I don't doubt you are good, but what I had was a good build that failed by the error of the user.



    Ahaha, i am not that good winking but thanks for the complement anyway.

    My previous build was 40/40 with a katana dex/faith. Wrecked most builds when buffed with DarkmoonBlade but its very very boring.......... Think like this: You are invaded by a katana user - you almost allaws assume - another R1 spammer with a katana. I rushed to the player and the first thing they did was a parry wich i punished for 600-800 damage. I say it gave quite an edge winking But very few fights were actually any good in that char.

    I am at SL 50 and i am loooooving the flameberge wich i can also use in this build if i want to.

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