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    Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Slarg232 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:10 am

    There were Pirates?

    With the idea of vehicles including ships, and the rumor floating around of a bit of the game taking place on a ship, would you guys be able to handle Pirates with flintlocks? Or is it still a bad idea?


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    Post by Argetlam350 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:14 am

    Still a bad idea, in my opinion. I only see the mention of ships as a means to be transported between lands, and having no real gameplay. Like traveling between the Nexus and Boletaria. You'll get on the boat, then loading screen, and then bam in a new land. I don't think there will be pirates at all either.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Sloth9230 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:16 am

    Single, not to mention slow reload, I I wouldn't mind. Maybe even a matchlock rifle


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by mugenis4real on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:39 am

    Flintlock Pistols and Dragons :suspect:

    It just seems a little off doesn't it?
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    Post by Slarg232 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:45 am

    mugenis4real wrote:Flintlock Pistols and Dragons :suspect:

    It just seems a little off doesn't it?



    Doesn't necessarily have to be a flintlock pistol; could be a magic "Contraption" that shoots crystallized magic or something silly


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Sloth9230 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:50 am

    It's not completely unreasonable, we do have firebombs after all.
    And I wouldn't mind cannons as an added danger for the next game.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Solid Knight on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:52 am

    There were firearms back then but for Dark Souls' combat you'd basically fire at the start then switch to another weapon because you sure as hell aren't going to stick around for the reload.







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    Post by Acarnatia on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:25 am

    Historically accurate pirates are alright; guns just aren't. They just don't fit the series.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Slarg232 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:28 am

    Solid Knight wrote:There were firearms back then but for Dark Souls' combat you'd basically fire at the start then switch to another weapon because you sure as hell aren't going to stick around for the reload.

    Yeah, they would pretty much be a crossbow on roids in all shapes and forms; high damage, short range, long reload, incredibly loud BANG!

    I wouldn't mind if it wasn't a viable weapon, but I would KILL for a chance to RP a Pirate.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:58 am

    yeah pirates would hold around 3 loaded pistols for battle, more if they could find places to strap them, once fired they didn't bother with reloading till after the battle, the equivalent in dks would be no reloading till you rest at a bonfire, sort of like the magic system. we've already got shotguns (bead) and homing missiles, the most i can see in this area (especially looking at the tech level in the areas shown to us so far) is explosives, like barrels that enemies will place or light to blow you up, like the red barrels in demons souls.


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    Post by Sloth9230 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:02 am

    Oh how fun those barrels were, especially the ones with the minister.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Solid Knight on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:09 am

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:yeah pirates would hold around 3 loaded pistols for battle, more if they could find places to strap them, once fired they didn't bother with reloading till after the battle, the equivalent in dks would be no reloading till you rest at a bonfire, sort of like the magic system. we've already got shotguns (bead) and homing missiles, the most i can see in this area (especially looking at the tech level in the areas shown to us so far) is explosives, like barrels that enemies will place or light to blow you up, like the red barrels in demons souls.

    All it would need is long reload. Maybe ten seconds (I know their real reload speed is longer but nobody is going to wait one to two minutes to reload a gun in a game). Ten seconds sounds short but that's an eternity in Dark Souls combat. I don't think any action in the game is that long.
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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by ComaPrison on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:24 am

    I want them to include assault rifles, sniper rifles, machine guns, etc. Maybe even some sci-fi futuristic weapons. Imagine how awesome it'll be to take down a dragon or a hydra using a giant laser cannon. PEW PEW PEW! LASER BEEEEEAMS


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    Post by RedderAI on Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:29 am

    I think its not going to happen. If by any impossible chance they do include guns it would be implemented very well. I'd hope anyways.

    I really wouldn't mind if it had a big drawback or something. Or takes a bit to aim. If it would be done well it wouldn't bother me. I'm looking forward to the inclusion of chariots for enemies. *drool*
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:36 am

    I think the chariot enemy is more or less a part of one NPC/ Boss Character not a whole class of them.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by raecor14 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:47 am

    if by pirate ship you meant dragon boat and by pistol you mean master sword, yeah id be up for it.
    but jokes aside i think pirated are WAY to non soulsy.....


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    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:13 am

    Pirates could be done, souls has a way of twisting and corrupting things to fit into the sadistic worlds they create.

    Guns I don't think so, in terms of balancing, they'd pretty much be high power, stupid reload time, there wouldn't be any advantage to them except as a cheap shot at the beginning of a boss battle...


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by RedderAI on Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:48 am

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:I think the chariot enemy is more or less a part of one NPC/ Boss Character not a whole class of them.

    I know. Just the idea of fighting something with one is just awesome. I want more variety in bosses. Gaping Dragon and a few others were cool the first time but after that they just became a cakewalk.
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    Post by steveswede on Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:39 am

    I don't want pistols, I want an ancient Chinese rocket launcher. lol!

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    Post by Acarnatia on Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:15 am

    Okay, the Chinese rocket makes a lot more sense-though that's still very questionable. And may I remind you that the colonial-era pirates were not the only pirates; the very name viking came from a northern word for pirate. Pirates existed in Greece, the Middle East, and virtually everywhere that there has been civilization, with or without firearms. Pirates are just bandits on the open sea, after all. Considering what Norse influence there already is in the games, Viking-like sea raiders seems possible to me.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Slarg232 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:25 pm

    But think of the UNDEAD PIRATES!



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    Besides, it would be a nice finisher attack in PVP as well.



    And if you think about it, the flow of time in Lordran is distorted, so such an item would technically be findable there.


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    Post by Acarnatia on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:47 pm

    Look at Chester; he came from an age that, by his attire, looks to be from a time well beyond our own and HE doesn't have a gun-he's got a repeating crossbow. And while, yes, undead pirates could be AWESOME, guns will just ruin the setting. Heavy armor was made useless and obsolete by the improvement in firearms, and thus the large weapons used to counter heavy armor were no longer necessary; the entire genre and guns just flat-out don't mix. Look at the gear we already know will be in Dark 2; it's nowhere near an are of firearms.
    Aside from the guns, imagine the underwater scene from the first Pirates of the Caribbean. In Souls. If fine-tuned, I think that can turn into something awesome.


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    Re: Would you accept a Pistol if....

    Post by Infighter on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:42 pm

    I would like to see Sea battles though, Kraken and stuff



    And Some guy would pop up out of nowhere and say this "Player name Do you Fear Death'a" (Davy Jones) and If player answered Yes, he could make a covenant and get benefits that would be awesome. Or Release the Kraken !!!!


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    Post by Guntles_5 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:15 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:Pirates could be done, souls has a way of twisting and corrupting things to fit into the sadistic worlds they create.

    Guns I don't think so, in terms of balancing, they'd pretty much be high power, stupid reload time, there wouldn't be any advantage to them except as a cheap shot at the beginning of a boss battle...

    Agree with the first part, and kind of agree with the second, although i would die to fire some sort of gun well placed in the souls atmosphere. If that happens, i say yes to guns.
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    Post by mr_no_face on Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:23 pm

    let's just have a mini catapult strapped to our back that we use by lying on our bellys


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