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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Carphil on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:04 am

    Jester's Tears wrote:
    Forum Pirate wrote:I'm a pyro a lot of the time actually. This one. http://mmdks.com/hz8

    I'm no less trustworthy because I cast. I don't interfere with ongoing fights unless its a gank squad. Ever. No skill in roasting someone who's occupied.

    BTW, I never run completely out of spells, I only need to land 2 casts to kill most builds, 3 for the rest. GC for 600, gcfb for 800 (1k if you fail a dodge) plus at least 300 lave, tempest for 2000-3300.

    I don't know but even If Pyros can give out up to 3K Damage. I think they're balanced. Their big hitters are Slow (Even with Dex) and They're attacks leaves them OPEN FOR ANYTHING. Mages will already be on their Jolly Rolling way before you react.


    I agree with this post, after casting a fireball, you can't move for 1.5 sec or something. After casting a soul arrow, you can just roll almost instantly


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:34 am

    pyromancies are pretty difficult to spam and the caster has to be pick his timing pretty carefully. sorceries for the most part are pretty easy to spam and with the knock out power that some of them posses, only one needs to hit you. similar could be said about wrath of the gods.

    i fought this one sorcerer that must have been pretty high level, i invaded him in the forest and i was SL124 at the time, and all he did was flip around and spam cast soul arrow. i thought he was tooling around at first. then i realized that he must have had several copies of the spell, i'm going to hazard a guess and say that he had 120 or more of the damn things. soul arrow is fast, has better tracking than you'd expect and they just would not stop spamming it. eventually i would ran out of stamina trying to chase them down or from the constant dodging and they kept wearing me down until i fell over died. it was unbelievable.

    i haven't complained about dex builds spamming their katana's R1 since.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:45 am

    Nybbles wrote:i haven't complained about dex builds spamming their katana's R1 since.

    Why would anyone ever complain about something like that?

    Also, is this thread for real? Replace the word "mage" with anything of this world (our world) and we're talking about pure and unbridled prejudice.

    Did it ever occur to you that any of these mages you run across have tons of other builds just like you, and get killed by mages about as often as you do?

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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Rynn on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:57 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:
    Nybbles wrote:i haven't complained about dex builds spamming their katana's R1 since.

    Why would anyone ever complain about something like that?

    Also, is this thread for real? Replace the word "mage" with anything of this world (our world) and we're talking about pure and unbridled prejudice.

    Did it ever occur to you that any of these mages you run across have tons of other builds just like you, and get killed by mages about as often as you do?
    Yes it did!
    And when I'm on my mage, I wouldn't trust me either XD.
    We're untrustworthy.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:01 am

    Well, at least you're self-aware. I'll give you that. silly

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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:04 am

    If I see someone pull out their wand, then I'm pulling out mine. If i'm going down, then I'm taking you with me. Seriously I had like 12 2KO's just today in the forest.


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:05 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Why would anyone ever complain about something like that?

    because every time i see a katana user, i expect them to furiously mash the R1 and not do much else. not all dex builds do this of course, just like not every sorcerer build spam casts. but it happens often enough that it becomes predictable.

    i got nothing against spammers, sometimes it's just what you have to do, but some times you can guess who will and who won't spam attacks just by looking at their equipment.

    hell, i'm playing a str build that uses the great axe and i mash the hell out of the R1 with that thing. it's sort of shocking how fast it can bludgeon players to death. i'm actually surprised more players don't use that weapon.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:17 am

    the thing about both those weapons though... parries will kill them.

    Katanas are best used for hit and runs, and big weapons to punish your opponent when they leave themselves open, if you manage to stun them then fell free to mash away.


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:28 am

    I would love to play against you with my mage! Anything against pseudo mages? I've got alot of buff builds recently. =B


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:33 am

    What's a pseudo-mage? I have a Velka's Rapier build that has high INT but only a couple of spells.

    Does that count?

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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:34 am

    You are right Jester they are GODDAMN ABOMINATIONS!


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:42 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:What's a pseudo-mage? I have a Velka's Rapier build that has high INT but only a couple of spells.

    Does that count?

    It's my way of calling a buff build. We pump INT just so we can use Crystal Magic Weapon.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:45 am

    Automancer wrote:
    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:What's a pseudo-mage? I have a Velka's Rapier build that has high INT but only a couple of spells.

    Does that count?

    It's my way of calling a buff build. We pump INT just so we can use Crystal Magic Weapon.

    I'm guessing that means you don't raise attunement right?


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:48 am

    Sloth9230 wrote:
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    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:What's a pseudo-mage? I have a Velka's Rapier build that has high INT but only a couple of spells.

    Does that count?

    It's my way of calling a buff build. We pump INT just so we can use Crystal Magic Weapon.

    I'm guessing that means you don't raise attunement right?

    I do but only for 1 slot most of the time. Because for me, it's either CMW or Hidden Weapon.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:51 am

    I know that higher INT affects the dmamge for CMW but i have the Leo Ring for that.


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:53 am

    So you use the Oolacile catalyst then?


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Rynn on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:54 am

    A pseudo mage has 1-3 attunement slots.
    if it's 1-2, just buffs. If it's 3, 2 slots for buffs, and 1 slot with either dark bead or crystal soul spear.

    Essentially they plan to buff, and just use that buff for support. They don't cast spells, except for the 3 attunement variety, that tends to have a "*** you" spell for ganking situations.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Automancer on Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:03 am

    Sloth9230 wrote:So you use the Oolacile catalyst then?

    Yup. And also what Rynn said. I'm more of a pure melee kind of guy with added support.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Nightmare Moon on Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:09 am

    I have more of a problem with people who pull out wrath of the gods. Magic is really easy to avoid but with that all they need is to get in close and spam it.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Deprived Lord on Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:19 am

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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:34 am

    Sloth9230 wrote:the thing about both those weapons though... parries will kill them.

    Katanas are best used for hit and runs, and big weapons to punish your opponent when they leave themselves open, if you manage to stun them then fell free to mash away.

    agreed, but i haven't run into allot of players that actually do those things. when i do, i'm usually losing lol. not many seem to be very good at parrying either. i can parry but it is more blind luck than skill in my case.
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Jester's Tears on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:37 am

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:You are right Jester they are GODDAMN ABOMINATIONS!


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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by Deprived Lord on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:01 am

    dragon age refrence?
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    Re: CAN'T Trust Mages.

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:06 am

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    ViralEnsign_ wrote:You are right Jester they are GODDAMN ABOMINATIONS!

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