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    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:16 am

    The shields pages need a lot of work done. Right now, they each have their own page, with at least a template. Some of them have a bit of information filled in.

    The only shields who's pages currently do not conform to the rest are:

    - Black Knight Shield
    - Crest Shield
    - Grass Crest Shield
    - Stone Greatshield
    - Black Iron Greatshield
    - *

    I'm just a little tired of fixing shield pages for now so I thought I'd give everyone a status update so we can pursue the work together! What remains to be done is:

    1. Fix the above shields' pages
    2. Fill in all the information on all the pages!

    *Edit: - Crystal Ring Shield (formatting needs to be touched-up)

    Edit 2: Striked out the shields, pages have been fixed.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:22 am

    I'm going to take a crack at Stone Greatshield right now. After that I'm going to go back to filling in spaces of what they should be, like a fire shield not having lightning damage, thus being 0.


    I'll get back to smithing next time I can get on the Xbox, I'm pretty sure I have a base of every shield now and with the pages up and knowing how to work them I'll get quicker at it.

    Also the Moonlight shield page doesn't really fit with the shield style, looks more like a weapon page.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:28 am

    lol did you see it? Stone Greatshield was the worst offender! 1 line of text... Would have been better if the page had just not been made at all so we could have used a template at least. Thanks for volunteering, and thanks for your continued efforts.

    Edit: The Crystal Ring Shield's page I didn't really bother with... All the info was already there, so I didn't want to mess up the formatting just for looks' sake.

    But you're right. Added to the list of to-fix!

    - Crystal Ring Shield (formatting)


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    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:31 am

    I got the format copied but it won't copy the icons, anything you can do about that? Right now I'm just trying to make it look decent, so it's looky fairly sloppy.


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    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:34 am

    Last time I used copy/ paste, the icons transferred over, but for some reason all their captions were showing and I couldn't find a way to make them go away short of deleting each individually... So I don't really know what's gonna happen when copy/ pasting.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:38 am

    Oh god, I really broke the page...

    Oh hey, I'm fixing Havel's, does the L2 buff just do physical/magical or both? I'm leaving it empty for now.


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    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:41 am

    I'm really not sure... I don't think it shows up on your stats screen, is why I don't know what defense it buffs. Will need some testing to know for that one.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:49 am

    If I can remember I'll play with it against some stuff.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by FexDS on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:54 am

    Hey guys

    To ensure the copy and paste works well, click on "edit" on the source page (the one you intend to copy) and copy from the editor. This works well with icons n stuff


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:57 am

    Oooooh I get you. Thanks for that tip ><; I'll fix it now. I'm going to eat and sleep, so don't work to hard Blaine. I'll do more work tomorrow I hope.

    I updated the original Stone with the new one Blaine, can use either one. I'm heading to bed now, have a good night~


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    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:00 am

    Yeah I'm off too, later!


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pm

    Alright, I'm up roomie should be sleeping for several more hours, back to smithing I go. With some luck I can get to doing the +14/15 upgrades today and maybe magical.

    Oh does anyone cary if I copy same shield stats? Like the Tower Kite and Caduceus Kite shields are basicly the same thing, the light round shields are doing it also.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:01 pm

    Huh, that's strange. I thought the Red & White, for example, had more magical resist than some of the other small shields. Either I'm wrong (very possible, since it's been a long time since I used and even looked at a shield, let alone a small one) or the wiki was edited wrong. Since you're asking, myself I would do them all separately, just to be sure. Once it's up on the wiki, there's so much information up there and so many different people editing it, that you have to be able to just go on trust that the information is correct. So when I add info, I only add stuff I researched. Like for the Catalysts Mag Adj, where it turned out that the Sorcerer's, Beatrice's, and Izalith Catalysts have all the same Mag Adj values; I still tested all 3 individually all the way.

    So I'd say: write what you research, the rest leave blank. I'd rather have blank pages, so people will know they still need to be done, than filled-in pages that could potentially be wrong but everyone will trust are true and no one would check.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:08 pm

    I'll run a double check and take the other two to +10, you do have a strong point.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:24 pm

    Just noticed, on a few pages on the right hand side it says others abover the stability icon, should we change it to stability? I changed a few yesterday but right now I'm leaving it alone, better to get data in while I can and fiddle with making pages look nice when I can't.

    Also Crystal versions have extremely reduced stability, I'm going to do a linebreak under normal durability and write Crystal: #. If any others show this I'll add them in the same manner.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:07 pm

    You meant reduced Durability, right? You said Stability once and Durability once, just want to make sure!

    Yeah, I think almost everything gets its durability cut 90% when going the Crystal route (a bit extreme, in my opinion!). It's a good point, should be mentioned on the pages.

    I'll check out the icons you were talking about.

    Edit: oh you mean at the top of the table, it says "Other" where it would make more sense for it to say "Stability". I don't think it's a big issue... If anyone is really confused, they can hover their cursor over the image and they'll see it says "stab" in there. Also the legend at the bottom of the page shows the icon means stability.

    I'm just hesitant to change it because, if I recall, there were issues with the tables on the shields pages a while ago. I think they were too wide for some monitors' resolution, and this might have been a fix. If we change "Other" to "Stability", it might create unwanted problems. I don't know, but I'd rather not mess with it!


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:14 pm

    Yeah durability, hilariously it seems stability may actually always go up. +10 knight shield is 67, and a crystal+0 has 70, this leads me to believe that a crystal +5 will have slightly higher stability than a +15, but we'll see.

    Also I am not able to input data for the Sunlight Shield, though I do plan to let Solaire get attacked by maggots, and I don't have another Iron Round Shield, nor do I really want to swap convents and lose my +2 sunbro status, I can down grade it since it isn't a +15 but I can't get base stats for it.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:17 pm

    Eh, don't ruin your playthroughs to get this data! Get what you can, and we'll get other people to fill in the rest.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by meridam99 on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:27 pm

    Good job so far guys, thanks!


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:29 pm

    It's fine, I have the resources I may as well use them. I'm a little past the halfway point on medium shields, and there are not that many greatshields. I should have all the data for +0 to +10 normal filled out today and then I'll start working on the +14/15, however that may take a few days depending how farming goes.

    Once that is done I'm going to need to go back to playing, I don't have the large fire/divine/magic/crystal embers yet but it shouldn't take but a day to get them.

    Oh if you ment Solaire, it's fine. I actually want to fight him and see what he does and also collect his gear.Will probably make Gywn harder but he wasn't to bad NG+ so I imagine after some practice I can do it solo.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Emergence on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:32 pm

    I just offed Solaire on a new toon, so I put the base stats/flavor text in.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:44 pm

    Hah only had a few left to go and ran out of shards, 180 shards lasts a really long time.

    Also totally just tried to run into Sens with the artorias sword in my left hand and shield in my right... that tink tink tinking is getting to me I think.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Emergence on Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:47 pm

    Also added stuff for Iron round at +10. I would add the pics but I'm on a tablet now and it's not very conducive to editing.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by Whknight on Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 pm

    Took a swing at it, think I got it. I used the .jpg one, it looked nicer from the selection menu. I'm hauling butt back to the smith, should wrap up soon. Also I'm almost broke, I've went from 2 million to 150k, just from buying shards. Hopefully I can get enough souls from Darkwraiths so I can buy green shards, I'd perfer not having to farm in blighttown.


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    Re: Shields Pages

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:11 pm

    It might be more efficient for you to get to the Kiln now then. Farm chunks on the Black Knights, and they give a decent amount of souls too, so you'll be able to buy shards with that.

    Just want to say it again: I lent my game to a friend, so while I can help with pages and formatting on the wiki, I can't actually gather any data myself. Sorry, otherwise I would. :/

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