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    What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:37 am

    Light Crossbow +15 with heavy bolts or Darkmoon Bow +5 with Moonlight Arrows. Mainly for PvP.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:46 am

    It's really situational. Depends a great deal on your enemy's armor. When I was doing my testing with the Heavy CB, I was told several times that the +15 with Heavy Bolts would have an easier time staggering my enemies than the Lightning path would, and it was completely untrue. I was generally seeing more damage with the Lightning Heavy CB with Lightning Bolts, but I ultimately went with +15 and Heavy, because the Heavy bolts are so much less expensive.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:52 am

    I'm going for damage, just to let you know, sadly you talk about the Heavy Crossbow, and I can't use it, my build has only 10 STR. But I will keep in mind that about staggering.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:57 am

    My point is that I'm sure the same rules apply. You're going to see the most damage if you don't split it, as I know you know, but it's all going to depend on who you're fighting and whether or not the investment of lightning bolts is worth it to you. After my testing, if the cost of souls isn't an issue for you, I'd recommend lightning. On average, across several different enemy types, I was seeing more damage with lightning than standard.

    It fluctuated a lot though, and most of the time there wasn't too huge a difference. Maybe between 20 and 50 more damage with each bolt, depending on the enemy.

    Another thing to consider, or at least that I like to consider, is that it's nice to have a variety of damage types. The last build I made has a purely physical main weapon, a chaos secondary backup, and a lightning projectile. It's nice to be able to mix it up and try to exploit weaknesses.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by RANT on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:11 am

    pvp=+15


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:49 am

    RantFromRant wrote:pvp=+15

    I'm gonna change the title. Look at the new question.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:51 am

    Depends on your stats. Do you have a lot of FTH?

    The nice thing about CB's is that you don't need the stats for them to be powerful. It's like the difference between elemental weapons and standard ones. If you have the proper stats to scale well with the DM bow then go with that, but if you just have the base stat prereqs to equip it then I'd say the CB.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by RANT on Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:00 am

    im gonna with with light crossbow still but it really depends on your faith, but i know for sure am occult comp bow outclasses the darkmoon bow.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:04 am

    RantFromRant wrote:im gonna with with light crossbow still but it really depends on your faith, but i know for sure am occult comp bow outclasses the darkmoon bow.

    I've never really used the DM Bow, so I can't know for sure, but the reason I've never really used it is because I've found it to seem pretty underwhelming. While the Comp Bow can be an absolute beast under the right circumstances. I'm with Rant. If it's a question of Bows and damage, I'd say the Comp is the way to go.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by RANT on Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:07 am

    its also situational, the corsbows are a lot better at sneak attacks and that last hit when your opponent is doing nothing but dodge and lets their guard down and boom dead. comp bow is more for chip damahe and pressuring your opponent with poison arrows.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:48 am

    PlasticandRage wrote:Depends on your stats. Do you have a lot of FTH?

    The nice thing about CB's is that you don't need the stats for them to be powerful. It's like the difference between elemental weapons and standard ones. If you have the proper stats to scale well with the DM bow then go with that, but if you just have the base stat prereqs to equip it then I'd say the CB.

    I have 30 FTH.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:24 am

    Maybe make your Comp occult and see what you're getting more damage with then? I'm not really sure. I'd think the Comp, but I don't have enough experience with the DM to be able to say for sure either way.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:32 am

    Your faith is too low, go crystal light crossbow. You can farm them at the Burg's bonfire that has a crossbow archer nearby. For best results use it as offhand.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by mugenis4real on Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:00 am

    Definitely go with the +15 Light Crossbow. It deals impressive damage and works wonders when your enemy tries to make a run for it.
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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:30 pm

    Not sure if it's been said but a divine/occult. Composite bow is a better choice then darkmoon bow


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:40 pm

    AFAIK, the composite bow (with 40 dex) outdamages every bow, not including great bows.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:54 pm

    reim0027 wrote:AFAIK, the composite bow (with 40 dex) outdamages every bow, not including great bows.

    I have very low stats, 10 STR and 16 DEX, 30 FTH. That's why I'm asking.

    In my other build, I have 18 STR and 12 DEX, 50 FTH, any tips for that?


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

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    ChizFreak wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:AFAIK, the composite bow (with 40 dex) outdamages every bow, not including great bows.

    I have very low stats, 10 STR and 16 DEX, 30 FTH. That's why I'm asking.

    In my other build, I have 18 STR and 12 DEX, 50 FTH, any tips for that?

    i would make a divine or occult comp bow, and a +15 light cross bow and see what one you like more.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:55 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:AFAIK, the composite bow (with 40 dex) outdamages every bow, not including great bows.

    I have very low stats, 10 STR and 16 DEX, 30 FTH. That's why I'm asking.

    In my other build, I have 18 STR and 12 DEX, 50 FTH, any tips for that?

    For that one definitely an occult/divine composite.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:58 pm

    Try the Heavy CB with the second one. I've been using it with my STR build and it doesn't disappoint. It's really nice for interrupting spell spammers with no poise every time they try to cast at you. Not sure if you get the same results with the light CB.


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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:20 pm

    PlasticandRage wrote:Try the Heavy CB with the second one. I've been using it with my STR build and it doesn't disappoint. It's really nice for interrupting spell spammers with no poise every time they try to cast at you. Not sure if you get the same results with the light CB.

    Yeah I used the Composite Bow +15 a lot a long time ago in my STR build, but it was useless unless I already pulled it out. And if I go all the time with the bow just in case I have a good opportunity to use it, good players are going to punish my lack of offensive. And if I just spam arrows from distance I can get roll BSed. It was useful, but VERY situational.

    A crossbow as you said, is good to counter casters, or guys fleeing in a straight direction. Situational too because against a melee guy, who will be probably dodging close to you all the time and if I use the crossbow I would get roll-BSed.

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    Re: What's better: Light Crossbow +15 or Darkmoon Bow +5?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:34 pm

    ^ yeah, I tend to carry bows with all my toons anyway too. Whether it's part of my general equips or not, you never know when one will come in handy.


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