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    All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Jester's Tears on Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:01 pm

    Mages in a Nutshell:
    Buff and Hide behind Shields.
    Pursuers + Dark Bead Spam

    Clerics in a Nutshell:
    Buff themself with Healing Miracles. ATTACK THE ENEMY HEAD ON. (Also. A huge amount of WoG...Alot...)

    Knights in a Nutshell:
    Bow and attack. Normaly, get's raped my Mages.

    Cowards in a Nutshell:
    *Go back to Mages in a Nutshell for information*

    Poor Internet in a Nutshell:
    LAGSTABS. LAGSTABS EVERYWHERE.

    Dexterity in a Nuthsell:
    Alot of holes trough their Stomach.

    Pyromancy in a Nutshell:
    Great Combustion EVERYWHERE. Normaly raped by Mages, Knights and Fat Clerics with TOO MANY WOGS.


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by LunarFog on Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:41 pm

    Lack of backstabs and lag.


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by User on Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:45 pm

    I like how both Lunar and Jester have similar strands on their heads.

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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Jester's Tears on Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:58 pm

    LunarFog wrote:Lack of backstabs and lag.

    I think you need to take a CLOSER LOOK, at the list.


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:50 am

    you forgot wog spam for the clerics as well as buffing things


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:52 am

    I think your Cleric assessment is off.

    See sparkly's post.

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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:02 am

    Before the DLC most mages were screwed against anyone who could strafe

    And most "knights" would just stunlock you to death.

    Melee builds hate dark bead because now mages can actually pose a danger up close, instead of being completely useless


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by mugenis4real on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:24 am

    Sloth9230 wrote:Before the DLC most mages were screwed against anyone who could strafe

    And most "knights" would just stunlock you to death.

    Melee builds hate dark bead because now mages can actually pose a danger up close, instead of being completely useless

    I guess your a huge supporter of the Dark Anal Bead then?
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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:36 am

    mugenis4real wrote:
    Sloth9230 wrote:Before the DLC most mages were screwed against anyone who could strafe

    And most "knights" would just stunlock you to death.

    Melee builds hate dark bead because now mages can actually pose a danger up close, instead of being completely useless

    I guess your a huge supporter of the Dark Anal Bead then?

    yeah actually I am, mages needed something like that.

    I'm just saying melee builds shouldn't expect other builds to fight like a melee build.

    As a mage my only real options are, dark bead, MLGS, MLBH, or hope I can get enough space to cast CMW on my BSS. HCM is at best a diversion and CSS is a "backstab me" billboard. If I'm gonna rely on MLGS or MLBH then I might as well just go with a regular melee build.


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Sentiel on Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:23 am

    HA! Finally thread with no hate on Pyro. happy

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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Serious_Much on Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:51 am

    This list made me chuckle, but the clerics you need stuff like buffs and wog

    Where's the hate on. Combustion? It's crazy..

    Also you should probably put in notes about guys who just swing around bkga and zapphander hoping for lucky shots


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Sentiel on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:33 am

    Serious_Much wrote:Where's the hate on. Combustion? It's crazy..
    Shhhhh
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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Nybbles on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:22 am

    dexterity builds
    …spam katana, get parried, allot
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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by LunarFog on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:24 am

    Acidic_Cook wrote:I like how both Lunar and Jester have similar strands on their heads.

    :bas:

    ....Haa~ Just noticed that

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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by BeeSeaEss on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:51 am

    Nybbles wrote:dexterity builds
    …spam katana, get parried, allot


    yea ikr, they call me the parry master winking


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Aznul on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:17 pm

    What about builds that rely on bleeding through shields? Or ganks?


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:28 pm

    Aznul wrote:What about builds that rely on bleeding through shields? Or ganks?

    Aren't bleeding through shields builds the same as dex builds through. And I was under the impression that gankers are just heavily armored deprived with goofy masks.

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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Jester's Tears on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:12 pm

    Sentiel wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:Where's the hate on. Combustion? It's crazy..
    Shhhhh
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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Jester's Tears on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:19 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:
    mugenis4real wrote:
    Sloth9230 wrote:Before the DLC most mages were screwed against anyone who could strafe

    And most "knights" would just stunlock you to death.

    Melee builds hate dark bead because now mages can actually pose a danger up close, instead of being completely useless

    I guess your a huge supporter of the Dark Anal Bead then?

    yeah actually I am, mages needed something like that.

    I'm just saying melee builds shouldn't expect other builds to fight like a melee build.

    As a mage my only real options are, dark bead, MLGS, MLBH, or hope I can get enough space to cast CMW on my BSS. HCM is at best a diversion and CSS is a "backstab me" billboard. If I'm gonna rely on MLGS or MLBH then I might as well just go with a regular melee build.

    Mages WRECKED before DM. DM made it worse. Mages could do pretty well at Close range due to MG, Their main enemie was Clerics. Clerics could use Great Magic Shield and WoG to fend of Spells, now that DM Gives zero *** about WoG, AND the Silver Pendant is useless (against Pursuers. THEY'LL KEEP COMING), the Mages has gotten even more OP.

    Giving them the ability to use a SHOTGUN (Dark Bead), made it even Worse.


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:40 pm

    luckily gmb still works against dark bead, but have you seen the cast time on db with 45 dex... theres no time for the silver pendant. its sad when a dark moon with 4 stacks of db invades with max casting speed...


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:00 pm

    Yes the MG is pretty powerfull, but most people I face tend to be either really good at dodging or use the crest shield; in which case I mostly end up punishing their attacks instead of going on the offensive myself.

    And I'm sorry but if you were getting wrecked by mages before DM then your dodging skill probably need work. Hell I can roll through most DB spammers by randomly rolling all over the place.


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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Nybbles on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:18 pm

    in my opinion, the only reason why spells are effective in PVP at all is because of lag. it's the only thing casters can rely on for their wins and it's also the reason why i can't stand spell casters. no matter how well you dodge, you still get one OHKOed by some *** elf ear wearing panzy, prancing around and waving a stick in your general direction.

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    Re: All Builds in a Nutshell.

    Post by Sloth9230 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:32 pm

    Nybbles wrote:in my opinion, the only reason why spells are effective in PVP at all is because of lag. it's the only thing casters can rely on for their wins and it's also the reason why i can't stand spell casters. no matter how well you dodge, you still get one OHKOed by some *** elf ear wearing panzy, prancing around and waving a stick in your general direction.

    intelligence build
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    Yeah Lag can be pretty bad at times, but Lag tends to make everything bad. And I think people who wear the darksun or dusk crowns + bellowing dragoncrest ring just suck period. I can 2 shot people with dark bead using just the TCCC, 3 shot if they have heavy armor plus 3 ring of fap. Why the hell you'd want to boost it even farther is beyond me.


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:44 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:
    Nybbles wrote:in my opinion, the only reason why spells are effective in PVP at all is because of lag. it's the only thing casters can rely on for their wins and it's also the reason why i can't stand spell casters. no matter how well you dodge, you still get one OHKOed by some *** elf ear wearing panzy, prancing around and waving a stick in your general direction.

    intelligence build
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    Yeah Lag can be pretty bad at times, but Lag tends to make everything bad. And I think people who wear the darksun or dusk crowns + bellowing dragoncrest ring just suck period. I can 2 shot people with dark bead using just the TCCC, 3 shot if they have heavy armor plus 3 ring of fap. Why the hell you'd want to boost it even farther is beyond me.

    That's an unfair assumption.

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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:55 pm

    Nybbles wrote:in my opinion, the only reason why spells are effective in PVP at all is because of lag. it's the only thing casters can rely on for their wins and it's also the reason why i can't stand spell casters. no matter how well you dodge, you still get one OHKOed by some *** elf ear wearing panzy, prancing around and waving a stick in your general direction.

    intelligence build
    …wear *** elf ears, spam dark magic, spam crystal soul spear, pray lag is in your favor, get chain-stabbed because you annoy the **** out of everyone.

    So, let me guess: You wear Giants armor?


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